Disaster after following the TA principles.

[Matt C]

no that's not what your statement meant.  It might have been what you were thinking when you wrote it.

I'm starting to like him less and less.  I think his argument tactic in this thread--ignore rebuttal and reassert original claim--is either cowardly, indicative of low intellect, or both.

Like I said, I think TA is bullshitting everyone which is why it's hard to take this thread very seriously.  Also, I think my pictures will prove my point as time goes by which is why I'm not refuting much of anything yet.

first of all his claimed IQ is not an indicator of anything except that he claims it.  Second neither an IQ in the top 2% nor "almost" getting a masters in math is something to brag about.

Third I am right about the meaning of your statement.  If you mean to say something do it with words, clearly and concisely, I'm not a mind reader.

I'm not sure about the IQ, since that is something I was born with, but definitely try getting a Master's degree in math and come back and make that statement - it is bloody damn hard to do!  And math always came easily to me.

DF - thanks. 

[shiftedShapes]

Like I said, I think TA is bullshitting everyone which is why it's hard to take this thread very seriously.  Also, I think my pictures will prove my point as time goes by which is why I'm not refuting much of anything yet.

I'm not sure about the IQ, since that is something I was born with, but definitely try getting a Master's degree in math and come back and make that statement - it is bloody damn hard to do!  And math always came easily to me.

DF - thanks. 

more of the same

[Cromespyder]

Like I said, I think TA is bullshitting everyone which is why it's hard to take this thread very seriously.  Also, I think my pictures will prove my point as time goes by which is why I'm not refuting much of anything yet.

I'm not sure about the IQ, since that is something I was born with, but definitely try getting a Master's degree in math and come back and make that statement - it is bloody damn hard to do!  And math always came easily to me.

DF - thanks. 

honestly, why did you even try the 'TA principles' in the first place?

i would think you'd have enough common sense to know what the outcome would be, matt. 'adonis' is just trying to get attention.

[The Master]

first of all his claimed IQ is not an indicator of anything except that he claims it.  Second neither an IQ in the top 2% nor "almost" getting a masters in math is something to brag about.

Third I am right about the meaning of your statement.  If you mean to say something do it with words, clearly and concisely, I'm not a mind reader.

A Mensa level IQ (132+) is an indicator of high intelligence. It is far from mind blowing when a person is in the 130 - 145 range, but it is still concidered "high intelligence".

He'll soon have his masters in math, and  he's done well in mathematical competitions earlier in his life. That is an indicator of high intelligence as well.

Regarding my statement, you can not expect everything to be expressed with 100% clearity, especially in an arena like this. It was fairly evident that I based my statements on MattC's post. Nobody expects you to be a mind reader, but you should be able to interpret something like my statement. Thus, I am correct.

[shiftedShapes]

A Mensa level IQ (132+) is an indicator of high intelligence. It is far from mind blowing when a person is in the 130 - 145 range, but it is still concidered "high intelligence".

He'll soon have his masters in math, and  he's done well in mathematical competitions earlier in his life. That is an indicator of high intelligence as well.

Regarding my statement, you can not expect everything to be expressed with 100% clearity, especially in an arena like this. It was fairly evident that I based my statements on MattC's post. Nobody expects you to be a mind reader, but you should be able to interpret something like my statement. Thus, I am correct.

"you did not base your statement on any kind of commonly accepted objective criteria for intelligence, while I did."

!=

"MattC is one of the most intelligent people on this board. No question about it."

I win

[The Master]

"you did not base your statement on any kind of commonly accepted objective criteria for intelligence, while I did."

!=

"MattC is one of the most intelligent people on this board. No question about it."

I win

You took it out of context.

Only a moron would see a statement out of context.

You also used your "word for word" standard again, which is not applicable to my statement.

I win.

 

[eastcoastbbman]

Go ahead and take a leap of faith... That is if rejecting all science and logic or make things harder for yourself makes sense then so be it. It doesn't have to be hard. I dropped 70 pounds in 4.5 months eating what i wanted. I didn't lose an ounce of muscle.

"leafy bug" obviously has no idea how much fat 70-lbs truly is. and there is no way in hell he lost that in 4.5 months. heres why:

please follow closely:

a lb of fat contains 3,500 calories. that means that you have to burn 3,500 calories over and above what you eat per day to burn 1 lb of fat.

so a person in a 350 calorie deficit per day will burn 1 lbs of fat in 10 days. get it!?


NOW HERES THE FUNNY PART: IN ORDER FOR LEAFY BUG TO HAVE BURNED 70 LBS OF PURE FAT IN 4.5 MONTHS, HE WOULDVE HAD TO BE IN A 2000 CALORIE PER DAY DEFICIT!! LOLOL!!!!!!!!!

THAT WOULD MEAN HES BURNING 2000 CALORIES MORE PER DAY THAN HES TAKING IN!!!

i dont think he realizes the ridiculous claim hes making.
70 lbs of fat contains 245,00 calories.

[shiftedShapes]

You took it out of context.

Only a moron would see a statement out of context.

You also used your "word for word" standard again, which is not applicable to my statement.

I win.

 

provide evidence of modifying context

[shiftedShapes]

"leafy bug" obviously has no idea how much fat 70-lbs truly is. and there is no way in hell he lost that in 4.5 months. heres why:

please follow closely:

a lb of fat contains 3,500 calories. that means that you have to burn 3,500 calories over and above what you eat per day to burn 1 lb of fat.

so a person in a 350 calorie deficit per day will burn 1 lbs of fat in 10 days. get it!?


NOW HERES THE FUNNY PART: IN ORDER FOR LEAFY BUG TO HAVE BURNED 70 LBS OF PURE FAT IN 4.5 MONTHS, HE WOULDVE HAD TO BE IN A 2000 CALORIE PER DAY DEFICIT!! LOLOL!!!!!!!!!

THAT WOULD MEAN HES BURNING 2000 CALORIES MORE PER DAY THAN HES TAKING IN!!!

i dont think he realizes the ridiculous claim hes making.
70 lbs of fat contains 245,00 calories.

you didn't account for water loss.

[The Master]

provide evidence of modifying context

See earlier pages.

[shiftedShapes]

See earlier pages.

yes I saw them and none of them modifies statement 1 so as to give it the same meaning of statement 2.

support your claim, you have conceeded literal meaning, so you must show contextual meaning is different.

[eastcoastbbman]

you didn't account for water loss.

i dont have to...he said he lost "70 lbs of fat in 4.5 months" im simply describing the thermodynamic miracle that would have to occur for that to happen.

[The Master]

yes I saw them and none of them modifies statement 1 so as to give it the same meaning of statement 2.

support your claim, you have conceeded literal meaning, so you must show contextual meaning is different.

Your honor, Lawyer Donald Lawrence presents the evidence on behalf of his client DF:

1: MattC's original post: 01:02:39. ShiftedShapes quoted his claim 01:46:22, where he called him an idiot. The quote contained objective indicators of high intelligence which ShiftedShapes chose to ignore in his reply. That in turn makes his statement entirely subjective. This also sets the context where MattC's claims are in focus. Your statement also clearly show your subjective agenda, you want to redicule him, an act of "I don't like you".

2: DF then replies to your subjective statement 01:53:25 PM where your statement is quoted. DF writes:

MattC is one of the most intelligent people on this board. No question about it.

-> A clear reference back to MattC's post when seen against your statement.

* The context is set via a series of quotes, a commonly accepted way of establishing context in the online world.

* The "no question about it" is within this context a clear reference back to MattC's claims. You can not question objective evidence.

3: I, Donald Lawrence, presents clear evidence of context, proven in a 2 step commonly accepted context establishing act created within the limited world of online debating. Online debating tools like quotes are mechanisms which speaks clear words.

4: I Donald Lawrence would like to countersue ShiftedShapes for harassment against my new client MattC.

Thank you your "honor."

PS: Bitches, my services are available for $477/hour.

[shiftedShapes]

i dont have to...he said he lost "70 lbs of fat in 4.5 months" im simply describing the thermodynamic miracle that would have to occur for that to happen.

well he mispoke if that is the case.  I think he meant 70lbs of fat and water

[shiftedShapes]

Your honor, Lawyer Donald Lawrence presents the evidence on behalf of his client DF:

1: MattC's original post: 01:02:39. ShiftedShapes quoted his claim 01:46:22, where he called him an idiot. The quote contained objective indicators of high intelligence which ShiftedShapes chose to ignore in his reply. That in turn makes his statement entirely subjective. This also sets the context where MattC's claims are in focus. Your statement also clearly show your subjective agenda, you want to redicule him, an act of "I don't like you".

2: DF then replies to your subjective statement 01:53:25 PM where your statement is quoted. DF writes:  -> A clear reference back to MattC's post when seen against your statement.

* The context is set via a series of quotes, a commonly accepted way of establishing context in the online world.

* The "no question about it" is within this context a clear reference back to MattC's claims. You can not question objective evidence.

3: I, Donald Lawrence, presents clear evidence of context, proven in a 2 step commonly accepted context establishing act created within the limited world of online debating. Online debating tools like quotes are mechanisms which speaks clear words.

4: I Donald Lawrence would like to countersue ShiftedShapes for harassment against my new client MattC.

Thank you your honor.

PS: Bitches, my services are available for $477/hour.

haha this is great that you replied it means that you are worth replying to because you are willing to give back.

im going home from work now, but I will take this up when I'm next bored or trying to avoid thinking about HUNGER!

[The Master]

haha this is great that you replied it means that you are worth replying to because you are willing to give back.

im going home from work now, but I will take this up when I'm next bored or trying to avoid thinking about HUNGER!

Please get a lawyer when you return, unless you want to represent yourself in the court of law. When you are up against Donald Lawrence, this courts advice is that you hire a well known lawyer like Johnny Suckman.

The judge is now going to get some snacks from the hidden minibar in his office Court will commence again tomorrow at 12:00 sharp!

 

[Camel Jockey]

Shiftedshapes probably licks adonis' balls.

[The True Adonis]

Matt is a fucking moron.

He keeps lying.  My methods are sound as can be.

[Miss Demeanor]

Matt is a fucking moron.

He keeps lying.  My methods are sound as can be.

At least he doesn't randomly capitalize things and use backward apostrophes for every bloody contraction

Speaking of lies, you're on pretty thin ice yourself there "Adam."  I think any of us with memories await the deadlift video, the video with Waddy, the miracle formula you devised but -- as you would write it -- "all of Science" [sic] has yet to discover, the gravity suit, proof that you didn't lose any muscle whilst dieting from a fatbody 240 to a scrawny 150, etc., etc.

[The Master]

At least he doesn't randomly capitalize things and use backward apostrophes for every bloody contraction

Speaking of lies, you're on pretty thin ice yourself there "Adam."  I think any of us with memories await the deadlift video, the video with Waddy, the miracle formula you devised but -- as you would write it -- "all of Science" [sic] has yet to discover, the gravity suit, proof that you didn't lose any muscle whilst dieting from a fatbody 240 to a scrawny 150, etc., etc.

This is almost as funny as Basts dianabol usage. He used for Mr.Getbig as well.

Bast is also 23 and a virgin.


(true facts)

[The_Leafy_Bug]

At least he doesn't randomly capitalize things and use backward apostrophes for every bloody contraction

Speaking of lies, you're on pretty thin ice yourself there "Adam."  I think any of us with memories await the deadlift video, the video with Waddy, the miracle formula you devised but -- as you would write it -- "all of Science" [sic] has yet to discover, the gravity suit, proof that you didn't lose any muscle whilst dieting from a fatbody 240 to a scrawny 150, etc., etc.

You mean like the first letters of sentences and proper nouns?

[The_Leafy_Bug]

That's what my statement meant. Matt included data about his IQ (top2%) and academic achievements, two commonly accepted indicators of intelligence, and my statement was written in that context a few posts after his. It is very obvious.

His Getbig antics is not a good way to evaluate his intelligence.

Human intelligence is possible to measure. The only way to measure it is to disect the human brain and see how dense the neural net is. IQ tests are biased and measure how well you take tests.

[The_Leafy_Bug]

"leafy bug" obviously has no idea how much fat 70-lbs truly is. and there is no way in hell he lost that in 4.5 months. heres why:

please follow closely:

a lb of fat contains 3,500 calories. that means that you have to burn 3,500 calories over and above what you eat per day to burn 1 lb of fat.

so a person in a 350 calorie deficit per day will burn 1 lbs of fat in 10 days. get it!?


NOW HERES THE FUNNY PART: IN ORDER FOR LEAFY BUG TO HAVE BURNED 70 LBS OF PURE FAT IN 4.5 MONTHS, HE WOULDVE HAD TO BE IN A 2000 CALORIE PER DAY DEFICIT!! LOLOL!!!!!!!!!

THAT WOULD MEAN HES BURNING 2000 CALORIES MORE PER DAY THAN HES TAKING IN!!!

i dont think he realizes the ridiculous claim hes making.
70 lbs of fat contains 245,00 calories.

Of course i didn't mean 70 pounds of pure fat. Hell half of it was probably water.

[The_Leafy_Bug]

I agree.  I don't understand why Team TA can't agree that certain things simply work better for some people than others.  Maybe TA's principles would work for someone else, but they don't for me.  Human bodies aren't exactly the same.  For example, I could eat junk food until I'm blue in the face and it would take months and months before you would notice any appreciable increase in body fat on me, while with others you can see the change within days.

The pictures below are not before and after pictures from the TA principles, but the ones I will post will be similar (body weight is in the 150s and in the 180s, about a 25-30 pound difference):







Do I look any leaner in the smaller pictures?  NO.  I am smaller AND fatter and that is exactly where I was leading towards on the TA principles.  I know that based on past experience on low calorie diets, I would have simply dropped to the 150s in the same body fat as before.  Not to mention, TA would be laughing at me.  As it is now, I will be 200+ by September and just as lean as I am now if not leaner.

Cee21Jay - thanks!  I plan to hit a 500 pound deadlift this year.

My best wishes go out to you Matt. I truly hope you get better soon. Muscualr distrophy is a terrible disease and i wish you the best of luck for your future.

[The Master]

Human intelligence is possible to measure. The only way to measure it is to disect the human brain and see how dense the neural net is. IQ tests are biased and measure how well you take tests.

Dear Mr. Leafy Bug. *giggle*

This is Donald Lawrence's secretary Brigitte Bardot.

All questions regarding this case will be handled by DF's lawyer, Donald Lawrence. Court is over for today, and Donald's is out of the office.

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