Disaster after following the TA principles.

[Matt C]

Yet you and I both do it.

I don't compete, but I do bodybuild and am glad that I do so.. It's taught me so much and made me healthy and a better person overall.

Yes, but it is crazy to see the progress juicers make compared to naturals.  And the answer isn't as simple as saying they eat better or train harder or have better genetics.  Certainly that plays a role in some cases, but in other cases you have very average people getting very above average results.  I'm not saying I would look like a pro when juiced, but in some ways I think I would certainly compare to the average pro.  Strength wise for instance, and I think with 0 changes to my diet and training I would look way better on juice.  That said, to me bodybuilding is also about health and balance which is why I choose to do it drug free.  I just don't expect to make a lot of progress this way.

[jason armstrong]

You sound like a juicer.  I've still bench pressed 340+ pounds before with perfect form.  On cycle I would probably hit 405.

Deadlift, I would be easily well within the 500s.  In fact, my bet is I reach a 500 pound deadlift this year some time.

Bluto - I am 5'9 for sure.  Taller at this exact moment but we all lose height as the day continues.  So 5'9 give or take very slightly.  If you do a search on getbig for pictures it would be kinda hard for me to be eye level with Milos and Layne Norton and Phil Heath being 5'2.  I look short in the picture because the lockers are elevated.  A good picture to show my height is the one next to the bathroom stall because you can see I'm almost as tall as it and they are six feet. 

you are a geek not a freak seriously you look like a little boy and you post that you train harder than anyone else maybe for someone with your girlish figure but not for hardore lfiters that are clean.
juice isn't the answer to everything if you ever get the balls to do it and quit talking about it all the time like you are an expert you'll know what i mean.

you look about 5'6 too and really skinny, white and anemic in america we'd probably put you on welfare....

[pobrecito]

Yes, but it is crazy to see the progress juicers make compared to naturals.  And the answer isn't as simple as saying they eat better or train harder or have better genetics.  Certainly that plays a role in some cases, but in other cases you have very average people getting very above average results.  I'm not saying I would look like a pro when juiced, but in some ways I think I would certainly compare to the average pro.  Strength wise for instance, and I think with 0 changes to my diet and training I would look way better on juice.  That said, to me bodybuilding is also about health and balance which is why I choose to do it drug free.  I just don't expect to make a lot of progress this way.

Matt, I know you like bodybuilding, but you just don't have the genetics for it. Why not take up powerlifting?

[jason armstrong]

good suggestion since he is always bragging about his weight lifted and looks terrible with out his shirt...terribly narrow small and short muscles steroids won't fix that millionaire matt super student!

[Hedgehog]

Matt, I know you like bodybuilding, but you just don't have the genetics for it. Why not take up powerlifting?

I would rather put it this way: he's got great genetics for powerlifting, and should give it a shot.

-Hedge

[Bast000]

he's got great genetics for powerlifting.

How do you figure?

[Matt C]

you are a geek not a freak seriously you look like a little boy and you post that you train harder than anyone else maybe for someone with your girlish figure but not for hardore lfiters that are clean.
juice isn't the answer to everything if you ever get the balls to do it and quit talking about it all the time like you are an expert you'll know what i mean.

you look about 5'6 too and really skinny, white and anemic in america we'd probably put you on welfare....

I respect the fact that you are posting under your real name.

Just a few points:

I'm not saying that I have great genetics or that I would be pro if I used juice.  I'm simply saying that juice makes a HUGE difference.  Also, you are 100% right that I am too much of a pussy to use drugs.  It's just the truth and I don't deny it.  I'm just a big pussy about it, what more do you want me to say?  But I don't need to use drugs to know that they are a huge aid for bodybuilding.  I think I would make huge gains on the correct steroid cycle.  I'm not saying I would become pro or that I have great genetics.  I do have good genetics in some areas: good shoulders and arms and a small waist, but a weak back and an incredibly weak chest.  My legs could be brought up if I was more consistent in my training.  In general, I do train very hard.

Lastly, as for my height, I can't pinpoint what makes me look shorter than I am, but I am definitely 5'9 but have great posture and I'm usually eye to eye with people who are 5'10.  Milos and Layne Norton are both 5'10 and 1/2 and Ron is 6'2 (with horrible posture lol):

[The True Adonis]

I respect the fact that you are posting under your real name.

Just a few points:

I'm not saying that I have great genetics or that I would be pro if I used juice.  I'm simply saying that juice makes a HUGE difference.  Also, you are 100% right that I am too much of a pussy to use drugs.  It's just the truth and I don't deny it.  I'm just a big pussy about it, what more do you want me to say?  But I don't need to use drugs to know that they are a huge aid for bodybuilding.  I think I would make huge gains on the correct steroid cycle.  I'm not saying I would become pro or that I have great genetics.  I do have good genetics in some areas: good shoulders and arms and a small waist, but a weak back and an incredibly weak chest.  My legs could be brought up if I was more consistent in my training.  In general, I do train very hard.

Lastly, as for my height, I can't pinpoint what makes me look shorter than I am, but I am definitely 5'9 but have great posture and I'm usually eye to eye with people who are 5'10.  Milos and Layne Norton are both 5'10 and 1/2 and Ron is 6'2 (with horrible posture lol):

You have a big head. Makes you look stupid.

[brian36]

Adonis is criticizing someone else's head and face....hahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahhahahah ahahaha

You are incredibly ugly.  You are a disgrace to the white race. hahahaha

[shiftedShapes]

You have a big head. Makes you look stupid.

Give Matt a break TA.  We cannot break him of his commitment to BBing dogma, it would hurt him too badly to let it go.

I'm starting to see that to Matt, Bodybuilding is a lifestyle and his major source of pride.  He goes to shows, and likes to pal around with people in the industry, and he hopes to make a living from it one day.

He can't accept that much of his precious 200lbs of bulk is in fact fat and that he would look better and be healthier eating three normal meals a day.  If he slims down to a lean 145 (which is really the weight at which he would look best given his apparent level of muscularity) and isn't consuming all kinds of ridiculous supplements and eating 6 hardcore clean meals a day, then in his mind he will no longer be living the BBing lifestyle, and hence he will no longer be a BBer.  He would lose his identity.  Matt was a self-described geek but he reinvented himself as a BBer.  If he loses that affiliation he might lose all the confidence he has built up through this new identity.

It's ironic that his commitment to the BBing lifestyle is keeping him from actually looking like a BBer, but that's just the way things are.

[The True Adonis]

 

[Alex23]

Grown up dog sleeping in your bed = disgusting.

[Matt C]

TA - I was just thinking about my head being big for my frame yesterday and I think you are right.  Not sure why you feel the need to bash me for it though.

Regarding why I will not use the TA principles ever again - it is because I did give it a try for over two months and they didn't work.  Above all else, I've been doing this long enough now to know what works for me and what doesn't.  The fact remains, the TA principles didn't work for me and you can show me all the scientific documentation in the world and I I will still say that.  I have a friend whose mother was on Lipitor for a year and a half and it did nothing for her except cause side effects.  Then she tried an herbal cholesterol lowering supplement and it did lower her cholesterol and caused no side effects.  So even though the scientific literature would prove that Lipitor is better than the herbal supplement she is currently using, she tested both and determined what worked for her.  Is it so hard to accept that I did the same thing?  Sure, many people are in fact brainwashed by magazine literature on the subject of nutrition, but I'm simply not one of them.  I tried various methods and determined what worked best for me.

Lastly - I have worked for myself for the past four years and have been living comfortably in that time with under 10K left on my house before I own it free and clear.  I will never work a job another day in my life.  You don't just become a millionaire overnight.  I will be a millionaire by the time I'm 35.  You need to walk before you can run.  Although my business did take a huge hit from youtube this year but I've been recovering and doing other things to make up for it.  I can't remember the last time I woke up to an alarm clock which is the beauty of entrepreneurship to me.

[chester_bbb]

Grown up dog sleeping in your bed = disgusting.

He loves his Jezebelle.

[jason armstrong]

I respect the fact that you are posting under your real name.

Just a few points:

I'm not saying that I have great genetics or that I would be pro if I used juice.  I'm simply saying that juice makes a HUGE difference.  Also, you are 100% right that I am too much of a pussy to use drugs.  It's just the truth and I don't deny it.  I'm just a big pussy about it, what more do you want me to say?  But I don't need to use drugs to know that they are a huge aid for bodybuilding.  I think I would make huge gains on the correct steroid cycle.  I'm not saying I would become pro or that I have great genetics.  I do have good genetics in some areas: good shoulders and arms and a small waist, but a weak back and an incredibly weak chest.  My legs could be brought up if I was more consistent in my training.  In general, I do train very hard.

Lastly, as for my height, I can't pinpoint what makes me look shorter than I am, but I am definitely 5'9 but have great posture and I'm usually eye to eye with people who are 5'10.  Milos and Layne Norton are both 5'10 and 1/2 and Ron is 6'2 (with horrible posture lol):

ok matt you took that one on the chin and hit back hard with honesty so i can respect that.....

your head is kinda big it makes you appear short..that's not a bad thing look at micheal lockett he looks lvery short his head is big.

and abeles you suck dick as always you are a liar and a hippocrite and delusional gay fucker....homo


sorry about that matt like i said props to your honesty...i'll save my flaming for fatcasm and adama anus anorexic drug taking jew homo

[Matt C]

The TA principles failed me miserably. 

[bron_in_88]

you weren't ready mentally

[candidizzle]

Bet you TA doesn't even follow his own principles.

he doesnt...or didnt.

 read what he says in that thread.... in order to put on all that size he was eating double whoppers everyday, cookies, oreos ice crea all with protein shakes mixed in, all you can eat buffets and such..   

[McFarland]

The TA principles failed me miserably. 

Oh they failed you terribly bad, Matt.  Make no doubt about it. 

[Camel Jockey]

Guys, what do you think of a diet consiting of 2,000 calories from Chivas Regal scotch and Doritos spicy nacho?

[Matt C]

Oh they failed you terribly bad, Matt.  Make no doubt about it. 

Yeah, well...

You're still the biggest douche Tom Prince has ever met.

[candidizzle]

Guys, what do you think of a diet consiting of 2,000 calories from Chivas Regal scotch and Doritos spicy nacho?

i think that life would be sweet for a short while..untill you turned into a depressed, fat, alcohol addicted bum.

[Camel Jockey]

Cigars for a stimulant supplement.

[McFarland]

Yeah, well...

You're still the biggest douche Tom Prince has ever met.

I don't know if you know this, Matt, but I actually took that as a compliment, coming from him. 

[The Master]

i think that life would be sweet for a short while..untill you turned into a depressed, fat, alcohol addicted bum.

So what? He can just buy hookers.