King Kamali / Jan Tana Live Results...

[bigdumbbell]

i dont judge books by covers and i'm sure she's nice and a unique individual but what is she saying with her presentation?  heroic women are fine and dandy.  but her appearance is abnormal, wouldn't you say?

[willie mosconi]

body dimorphic disorder

same reason for bulimia and massive synthol injections

yep, must be that. "the broken mirror" syndrome

[gatomjp]

i dont judge books by covers and i'm sure she's nice and a unique individual but what is she saying with her presentation?  heroic women are fine and dandy.  but her appearance is abnormal, wouldn't you say?

I would. There is some deep sickness involved with any extreme body modification of any kind, IMO.

[CQ]

Well the same could be said about mens bodybuilding.  Some people just like to be huge freaks...I say more power to them.

Please excuse me seeming all argumentative towards you

The difference with the mens is it is not diminishing at the rapid rate females is. The men were not forced off the stage at the Olympia having to compete on the expo floor. The men are always on mag covers, I can't recall how many years it has been since a female bb was. The men are featured all the mags, with a female bb making a very rare appearance. The men get sponsors, very few female bb do.

Womens bb is dying at a rapid rate....the Ms.O once stood alone as a contest and it sold out......while the male side is holding steady, prize money increasing slowly, more shows etc.

[Luv2Hurt]

Please excuse me seeming all argumentative towards you

The difference with the mens is it is not diminishing at the rapid rate females is. The men were not forced off the stage at the Olympia having to compete on the expo floor. The men are always on mag covers, I can't recall how many years it has been since a female bb was. The men are featured all the mags, with a female bb making a very rare appearance. The men get sponsors, very few female bb do.

Womens bb is dying at a rapid rate....the Ms.O once stood alone as a contest and it sold out......while the male side is holding steady, prize money increasing slowly, more shows etc.

While it may be true women's BB is dying.  You were also talking about the "Rampant drug abuse" and how this has narrowed down the feild and oppertunities to others. Well its true for the men too, unless you get on board and gear up big time as a guy, you will not win any big shows and will not get the covers or endorsements.  So the men who decide to try must up the dosage and time on.

[bigdumbbell]

Please excuse me seeming all argumentative towards you

The difference with the mens is it is not diminishing at the rapid rate females is. The men were not forced off the stage at the Olympia having to compete on the expo floor. The men are always on mag covers, I can't recall how many years it has been since a female bb was. The men are featured all the mags, with a female bb making a very rare appearance. The men get sponsors, very few female bb do.

Womens bb is dying at a rapid rate....the Ms.O once stood alone as a contest and it sold out......while the male side is holding steady, prize money increasing slowly, more shows etc.

not many magazines will sell with an bizarre amazon on the cover, certainly some will, but they will be in the african american targeted shops. 

[CQ]

While it may be true women's BB is dying.  You were also talking about the "Rampant drug abuse" and how this has narrowed down the feild and oppertunities to others. Well its true for the men too, unless you get on board and gear up big time as a guy, you will not win any big shows and will not get the covers or endorsements.  So the men who decide to try must up the dosage and time on.

Good point.

Do recall though that I speak from an international perspective, where our female bodybuilders are often drug tested, so often when they win their pro cards they decline them as they don't have the interest in gearing up to the point of looking masculine. Like Chamorrita who posted earlier, had one of the most beautiful physiques out.....quite a few women in the international scene decline the cards due to the drugs required in the pro ranks. This does not happen with the men in the international scene.....

[timfogarty]

the top women pro bodybuilders in the 1980s and 1990s used a ton of anabolic steroids.  and people complained of their deep voices and other masculine features.  but when they got off the steroids, most if not all of their feminine features returned.

today is different for three reasons:   growth hormone permanently changes the face; diuretics make the face look sickly; and to make up for both of these, women turn to plastic surgery to try to add back some feminine features.  but they overdo the surgery and look like freaks.

get rid of the gh and diuretics, but keep the AS, and women's bodybuilding would return to what it was 20 years ago.

[willie mosconi]

Good point.

Do recall though that I speak from an international perspective, where our female bodybuilders are often drug tested, so often when they win their pro cards they decline them as they don't have the interest in gearing up to the point of looking masculine. Like Chamorrita who posted earlier, had one of the most beautiful physiques out.....quite a few women in the international scene decline the cards due to the drugs required in the pro ranks. This does not happen with the men in the international scene.....

yeah, but you do have guys like Richard Jones that decide that competing isn't worth all the health hazards. Current bodybuilding is such a fucking joke on both the men's and women's side. Why don't the judges try to change it? Why not award guys like Dex, Darrem, Jones and Anthony with the top prize to shift things back to some semblance of sanity? I think Yates signaled the beginning of the end for pro bb. it has been downhill ever since

[Luv2Hurt]

the top women pro bodybuilders in the 1980s and 1990s used a ton of anabolic steroids.  and people complained of their deep voices and other masculine features.  but when they got off the steroids, most if not all of their feminine features returned.

today is different for three reasons:   growth hormone permanently changes the face; diuretics make the face look sickly; and to make up for both of these, women turn to plastic surgery to try to add back some feminine features.  but they overdo the surgery and look like freaks.

get rid of the gh and diuretics, but keep the AS, and women's bodybuilding would return to what it was 20 years ago.

Man that is an awsome Bev Francis pic, such nice shape!  She looks great there, she got a lot of crap over the years of being a freak.  I always say the coolest guest posing I ever saw was Corey Everson when she was Ms. O  Female BB was pretty big back then

[boonstack]

u can tell Bev's corn in her shit is very obvious by her facial structure

[The Coach]

Give em a break they are not hurting you.  They are doing what they like, who has the right to tell them what they should look like or be like?  Lets see all you guys making fun of them pics.  Maybe its not your thing, but who really cares?

They're not hurting us? Look lady, I just got a new script for contact lenses and after looking at this I'm almost blind, and my kid got glimps of one of these "women" and now he has nightmares.

PPppppffftt.........."they are not hurting you" !!

[Luv2Hurt]

They're not hurting us? Look lady, I just got a new script for contact lenses and after looking at this I'm almost blind, and my kid got glimps of one of these "women" and now he has nightmares.

PPppppffftt.........."they are not hurting you" !!

Haahha OK "The Coach" 

[jude2]

Jelena is a perfect example of what a figure girl should look like.  HOT!

[Disgusted]

Jelena is a perfect example of what a figure girl should look like.  HOT!

I think she is a perfect example of a woman. On the other hand how much do the judges take into account for facial beauty and if so how is it determined? Anyone, ANYONE, BUELLER???

[bb doc]

good examples, luv 2 hurt.

I remember Bev was at 1 point considered the most massive woman around (Pumping Iron 2), but she looked like a Victoria's Secret model compared to these female bb competitors.

Sad - I used to really love bb.

[Peaking at 45 !!!]

Wow-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------uh..........The picture of the 3 women standing in the front relaxed position is just, well, in over 30 years of following bodybuilding, it is the saddest example of female bodybuilding I have ever seen--------those physiques are just........well, I'm not even sure how to describe it. 

[Wombat]

the top women pro bodybuilders in the 1980s and 1990s used a ton of anabolic steroids.  and people complained of their deep voices and other masculine features.  but when they got off the steroids, most if not all of their feminine features returned.

today is different for three reasons:   growth hormone permanently changes the face; diuretics make the face look sickly; and to make up for both of these, women turn to plastic surgery to try to add back some feminine features.  but they overdo the surgery and look like freaks.

get rid of the gh and diuretics, but keep the AS, and women's bodybuilding would return to what it was 20 years ago.

Are you stating that the woman of the 80s and 90s got all of their feminine features back without surgery? 

[jelena]

I would like to thank everyone for support and make one thing clear. I got where I am working hard and I never took drung and never will. I like how I look and happy where I am. Where they place me on stage I won't hurt me in any shape or form. I will always do my best to come in best shape I can, like my trainer said "to bring best Jelena"



Jelena

[columbusdude82]

Columbusdude is not impressed! The women look scary, and the men look nothing impressive.

Perhaps Kamali should focus on the shows he competes in, rather than having a minor show named after him in which a handful of third-rate amateurs compete...

[Your MAAAAaaaa]

I feel sad for these people. They've basically destroyed their futures for nothing tangible at least. You can't say they are even healthy. Carcinogenic tanning lotions, male feature inducing hormones and diuretics all in an effort to distance themselves from whatever personal demons realized or not that drive them to do this.   

ahahahahahaha great post, I wonder if there is a common factor with all these people who destroy their bodies to look SHIT.

ta ta

[Lift Studios]

It was King's first show and everyone has to start somewhere. He did a good job of organizing his part of the event and although there weren't many competitors his portion of the show was well run. The venue was nice and plenty of places to eat after prejudging. The only complaint from most people was that the hotel was too far away. Perhaps next year there will be a host hotel closer to the venue. King was cordial and accomodating to everyone, myself included. We've had out beefs in the past but I applaud King for stepping up to promote a show. I think King would be the first to tell everyone that promoting a show is no easy task.

Jan Tana's portion of the show was great from the calibur of figure competitors but a poor showing from the female bodybuilders. This portion of the show could have been better organized.

Jelena was undoubtly the most beautiful woman on stage and as I've told her, keep doing what you're doing. She's already accomplished more than what 99% of the other women will accomplish in regards to magazine covers, commercials and mainstream exposure.

[HUGEPECS]

too much boob job with monster tattoo lololol

what in the name of the mighty god is this?

[Lift Studios]

She won the female bodybuilding portion of the NPC event. Bob had some great one-liners to go with her victory, while emceeing the event. More photos and videos going up today at: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/2007ifbbjatana.htm

[The Ugly]

Wrong thread, sorry.