Bodybuilders are not atheletes

[Earl1972]

Whats really supports the "non sport" classification of BB is the fact that NO pros come on here to defend it by saying it is.  They know it is a competition based on looks.  Skill is not a factor at all.  And if you saying posing is a skill, then why doesn't the guy who wins the Best Poser award always wins the show.

chick has defended it, he doesn't bother anymore because you guys are too stupid to understand

posing is just one part of the show,nobody said what you look like doesn't matter

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[Devon97]

chick has defended it, he doesn't bother anymore because you guys are too stupid to understand

posing is just one part of the show,nobody said what you look like doesn't matter

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So is ESPN   

[Devon97]

I find every sport I've done easy to be the best..  I don't need to get into how good I was or what sports, but trust me, bodybuilding is the hardest by far..   

What University did you attend on Full athletic scholarship? What professional teams did you earn "All-Star or ALL-Pro"? Since you found it easy to be the best.

[Earl1972]

So is ESPN   

what is your point?

espn constantly mentions michelle wie, a female teen golfer who HAS NEVER WON ANYTHING

they never talk about sidney crosby, a 19 year old who IS THE BEST HOCKEY PLAYER IN THE WORLD

they talk about what gets ratings

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[Devon97]

what is your point?

espn constantly mentions michelle wie, a female golfer who HAS NEVER WON ANYTHING

they never talk about sidney crosby, a 19 year old who IS THE BEST HOCKEY PLAYER IN THE WORLD

they talk about what gets ratings

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They talk about said athletes because they are impressive! Why else would a national network give air time to someone??
No one gives a rats ass about Ronnie or Jay. Except for "You guys"

[onlyme]

chick has defended it, he doesn't bother anymore because you guys are too stupid to understand

posing is just one part of the show,nobody said what you look like doesn't matter

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Wow, only one.  Then it must be a sport.  And you do realize you are calling the majority of the population stupid cause they all feel the same way.  Are you sure you aren't the stupid one.

[Earl1972]

They talk about said athletes because they are impressive! Why else would a national network give air time to someone??
No one gives a rats ass about Ronnie or Jay. Except for "You guys"

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that is why the "espn doesn't mention it" argument doesn't work

they talk about whatever will get ratings

only internet forum geeks like you and me care about jay or ronnie

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[onlyme]

what is your point?

espn constantly mentions michelle wie, a female teen golfer who HAS NEVER WON ANYTHING

they never talk about sidney crosby, a 19 year old who IS THE BEST HOCKEY PLAYER IN THE WORLD

they talk about what gets ratings

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You do realize you just mentioned two people who compete in sports.  Earl do you read what you type.  Or do you just to practice typing no matter how dumb it sounds

[Earl1972]

Wow, only one.  Then it must be a sport.  And you do realize you are calling the majority of the population stupid cause they all feel the same way.  Are you sure you aren't the stupid one.

chick is the only pro that regularly posts here and participtes in discussions

the rest come and go, lee priest could care less what people think and shawn is only here to promote himself and tell you that you are fat

are you honestly saying that most of the population isn't stupid?  look at all the people waiting outside for paris hilton to be released

i'll keep going by what the dictionary says, you think whatever you want tubby

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[Earl1972]

You do realize you just mentioned two people who compete in sports.  Earl do you read what you type.  Or do you just to practice typing no matter how dumb it sounds

you just don't get it

people keep bringing up espn, ESPN TALKS ABOUT WHAT GETS RATINGS

how is Kobiiyashi more of an athlete than a bodybuilder, oh fat boys like yourself like to think that eating hot dogs are athletic competitions

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[onlyme]

you just don't get it

people keep bringing up espn, ESPN TALKS ABOUT WHAT GETS RATINGS

how is Kobiiyashi more of an athlete than a bodybuilder, oh fat boys like yourself like to think that eating hot dogs are athletic competitions

E

Kobiiyashi is built like a natural BB with better abs than most pros and he eats like you do except he isn't a slob like you.  You keep playing in Dreamland and then you can pretend BB is a sport and you are king.  But in the real world you are outside looking in.

By the way here he is after he ate 53 hot dogs.  Show me a pro that can do that and still have abs.  And by your defintion he is an athlete since he works out.  Earl to bad about your life, but one day it will get better.  Only in your dreams but at least you have that.

[sgt. d]

Sounds like fighting words

[Devon97]

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that is why the "espn doesn't mention it" argument doesn't work

they talk about whatever will get ratings

only internet forum geeks like you and me care about jay or ronnieE

haha  no, I dont even know when the Olympia is and who the current champ is..... But Im sure you have his pics plastered all over your bedroom... see the diff?

[Earl1972]

Kobiiyashi is built like a natural BB with better abs than most pros and he eats like you do except he isn't a slob like you.  You keep playing in Dreamland and then you can pretend BB is a sport and you are king.  But in the real world you are outside looking in.

By the way here he is after he ate 53 hot dogs.  Show me a pro that can do that and still have abs.  And by your defintion he is an athlete since he works out.  Earl to bad about your life, but one day it will get better.  Only in your dreams but at least you have that.

hhahaha a guy that looks like jabba the hut is calling me a slob hahahaha

and no "genius" I never said working out was a sport, you're pulling that out of your fat ass

competitive bodybuilding is a sport, not lifting weights in a gym

eating hot dogs and still having abs just means he is skinny, I wonder what jon daly's stomach looks like after eating that many hot dogs or maybe an nfl offensive lineman, great point again onlyme

just remember, you are better than me because you met more celebrities than me

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[Earl1972]

haha  no, I dont even know when the Olympia is and who the current champ is..... But Im sure you have his pics plastered all over your bedroom... see the diff?

than you posting on this BODYBUILDING forum means that you have nothing going on in life hahahahaha

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[sgt. d]

hhahaha a guy that looks like jabba the hut is calling me a slob hahahaha

and no "genius" I never said working out was a sport, you're pulling that out of your fat ass

competitive bodybuilding is a sport, not lifting weights in a gym

eating hot dogs and still having abs just means he is skinny, I wonder what jon daly's stomach looks like after eating that many hot dogs or maybe an nfl offensive lineman, great point again onlyme

just remember, you are better than me because you met more celebrities than me

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lol

[nder98]

Is it me or does it seem the guys that can never make it as a bodybuilder in this thread knock bodybuilding as a sport?

This is what I wanted to say from the beggining..  And yet they are constantly on a bodybuilding board 24/7

[nder98]

True, it does take dicipline to eat all those meals and do all that sleeping oh, and jumpping out of Birthday cakes at gay b-day parties is very demanding!
Still though , the EVENT itself ( the show) does not constitute one to bare the lable " Athlete"

So whats your "classification" of a sport?

[gatomjp]

So whats your "classification" of a sport?

There are two similar discussions going on at the same time. This is what I just posted on the other one and I think it's appropriate here too...

bod·y·build·ing      [bod-ee-bil-ding] –noun
the act or practice of exercising, lifting weights, etc., so as to develop the muscles of the body.

bod·y·build·ing       (b?d'?-b?l'd?ng) 
n.   The process of developing the musculature of the body through specific types of diet and physical exercise, such as weightlifting, especially for competitive exhibition.

The definitions for footballl and baseball and hockey etc. describe them as a "game". So sport, it seems, must be a game of some kind which means that BB is a process or a practice or an art but not a sport.

Having now put to bed the definition of the word sport, the main thrust of this "sport/no sport" argument seems to be that BB is easy when compared to baseball or football and the like. That is quite untrue.

[body88]

Pro bb is easy compared to the NFL and NHL.  If pro bb's are athletes so aren't the legions of beauty pageant contestants who do essentially the same thing. BB requires no athletic ability. It does not requite superior athletic performance. It does require a lot of dedication, but it is not a sport. I dont really care if people call bb a sport ( even tho it is not one). It is when guys like chick try to claim pro bb's are in the same class as elite pro NFL , NBA, NHL, MLB players.

A pro sport is not based soley on how difficult something is. If that where the case you would have pro computer programmers and pro chess athletes.

[gatomjp]

Pro bb is easy compared to the NFL and NHL. 

Have you done both?

[body88]

Have you done both?

On the pro level , no. I played sports on the collegiate level. I have been "bb" for 11 years. I can tell you how much of a grind a season is on the collegiate level, never mind the pro level.. It is not even close. Explain to me what a pro bb does that compares to a typical NFL season. We will totally ignore the fact that football is a sport that takes actual athletic ability to partake in. You have to be an athletic freak to excel on the pro level in the mlb,nfl,nba or nhl. Not just a genetic freak. You need superior athleticism to 99 percent the population.

[gatomjp]

On the pro level , no. I played sports on the collegiate level. I have been "bb" for 11 years. I can tell you how much of a grind a season is on the collegiate level, never mind the pro level.. It is not even close. Explain to me what a pro bb does that compares to a typical NFL season. We will totally ignore the fact that football is a sport that takes actual athletic ability to partake in. You have to be an athletic freak to excel on the pro level in the mlb,nfl,nba or nhl. Not just a genetic freak. You need superior athleticism to 99 percent the population.

I am a filmmaker, not an athlete. But I have made a couple of documentaries on BB and I have found what they go through mentally and physically to transform their bodies very grueling. However, I can't compare that to your experiences in collegiate sports. That sounds even more brutal! It seems like a behind-the-scenes, day-to-day documentary about making it in the NFL would be a great film! I'm surprised it hasn't yet been done...has it?

[fearANDloathing]

judges can decide the winner

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...and so do the judges in gymnastics. Ever tried that? Pretty fucking tough. Posing is not as hard as gymnastics but it's not exactly easy either. Now let there be no more talk of this, if golf is a sport then so is bodybuilding. More prize money doesn't always = greater athletic ability. Top golfers make way more money than top track and field athletes, are they better athletes?

[body88]

I am a filmmaker, not an athlete. But I have made a couple of documentaries on BB and I have found what they go through mentally and physically to transform their bodies very grueling. However, I can't compare that to your experiences in collegiate sports. That sounds even more brutal! It seems like a behind-the-scenes, day-to-day documentary about making it in the NFL would be a great film! I'm surprised it hasn't yet been done...has it?

Im not out to bash pro bb's.I know what it takes to bb. I can only imagine the dedication it takes to be a pro. I respect what pros do. I am more of an ironage fan, but I still respect the pros of today. However I do not feel pro bb's should be compared to "true" pro athletes. Including Coleman in a sentace with Jordan is a insult to Jordan's true athletic achievements. Same goes for Hank Aaron. Should his name be spoken in the same sentence as Arnie? I am a huge Arnie fan btw! Aaron hit 755 homers. He was an amazing player all around. In a era when there was no steroids non the less. It took bonds a ton of sauce, modern technology, and the talent of a truly elite athlete to achieve what Aaron did. Not only was Hank a athletic freak, he was a black athletic freak in a time when black people where discriminated against very badly. Altough Dillet might tell you the "struggles" with racism he has had in the ifbb

I played sports on the collegiate level. I was a good athlete but no where close to a pro prospect. People don't realize how much of a athletic freak you have to be to even become a pro. Guys who excel at the pro level ( I am talking set records) or achieve monumental athletic feats, are the true athletic mutants on this earth.

A "road to the pros" movie would be a great idea. I would love to see a documentary about a Calvin Johnson or a Joe Thomas following them through college, and into the pros. Problem is those guys don't have the time!