Perma-Bulkers: Attention - Good News

[Matt C]

Fiscal Policy and Republicans being correct?  Give me a break.  You know nothing of our politics in the US.

I'm saying a conservative economic policy is superior to a more socialist system.  Spending billions of dollars on a failing war in Iraq does not qualify as economic conservatism.  Economics is definitely my strong point, even more than the majors I took in school.

[Man of Steel]

I'm saying a conservative economic policy is superior to a more socialist system.  Spending billions of dollars on a failing war in Iraq does not qualify as economic conservatism.  Economics is definitely my strong point, even more than the majors I took in school.

Well, you're in an embittered natty bb thread and they're experts on everything.  

[BEAST 8692]

yeah and he has the musculature of an average joe, what's your point?

ok

sorry, show me your pics again. i want to see what average joe looks like?

[shiftedShapes]

I'm saying a conservative economic policy is superior to a more socialist system.  Spending billions of dollars on a failing war in Iraq does not qualify as economic conservatism.  Economics is definitely my strong point, even more than the majors I took in school.

I'd say boasting about your strong points is your strong point

[natural al]

Hope this helps!
http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.php/Jim_Jeffries


By the way, Jack Dempsey was my Grandfather`s best friend.

[The Squadfather]

Before I stopped lifting weights I was able to DL 405 (at a BW of 145lbs), do pull ups with 115lbs of added weight, and dip with 135 lbs of added weight.

Now I am stronger.

hahahahaha, no offense Shifted but i'm calling bullshit.

[The_Leafy_Bug]

hahahahaha, no offense Shifted but i'm calling bullshit.

Nahhh i believe him. I used to train with a guy when i was just starting out who was 145 who could bench 365 at 145.

[JOHN MATRIX]

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A NATURAL MASS MONSTER.  If you want to be a freak get on steroids, but if you're going to stay natural and you want to look like a BBer your only hope is to cultivate an aesthetic physique with dramatic taper.

THIS MEANS ENDING YOUR BULKING AND REDUCING YOUR CALORIES BELOW MAINTENANCE LEVELS UNTIL YOU SHED YOUR HUGE STORES OF INTRA ABDOMINAL FAT.

YOU DONT NEED SUPPLEMENTS TO DO THIS, YOU JUST NEED TO STOP EATING SO DAMN MUCH.

100% correct.
i laugh at all the (natty) noob kids trying to eat the Flex diets thinking it will make them huge bodybuilders LOL

[shiftedShapes]

hahahahaha, no offense Shifted but i'm calling bullshit.

well I'm flattered that you doubt my claims.  Almost as good as somebody accusing me of juicing.

I won't be proving any of these lifts as I stopped lifting that way because I had a back injury (which turned out to be just a lat / erector strain, but seemed like it might have been a disk injury) and a biceps strain for the very heavy chins.  So I have moved away from heavy ballistic lifting.  Now I do a lot of BW training that I had been too weak to do at the time.

I'm most proud of my iron cross raises for reps on the rings (I can do them horizontal in a tuck planche position, or vertical).  

For legs I don't like to load the spine too heavilly so I do strictly unilateral movements.  I can do one leg deads or one leg stiff deads with 100lbs of extra weight (non working leg is held stationary in the air), and pistols ass to the grass for reps.

[The Squadfather]

well I'm flattered that you doubt my claims.  Almost as good as somebody accusing me of juicing.

I won't be proving any of these lifts as I stopped lifting that way because I had a back injury (which turned out to be just a lat / erector strain, but seemed like it might have been a disk injury) and a biceps strain for the very heavy chins.  So I have moved away from heavy ballistic lifting.  Now I do a lot of BW training that I had been too weak to do at the time.

I'm most proud of my iron cross raises for reps on the rings (I can do them horizontal in a tuck planche position, or vertical).  

For legs I don't like to load the spine too heavilly so I do strictly unilateral movements.  I can do one leg deads or one leg stiff deads with 100lbs of extra weight (non working leg is held stationary in the air), and pistols ass to the grass for reps.

hahahaha, of course the infamous "back injury".

[shiftedShapes]

hahahaha, of course the infamous "back injury".

yeah pretty convenient huh.

Truth is, it was the best thing that ever happened to me training wise.  I get much better results from the one leg work (balance is much better, ham sweep is improving), and I know that if I had kept pushing it with the Sumo DL's I probably would have injured myself much worse.  The strain was like a slap on the wrist.  I got the message.

[Matt C]

I'd say boasting about your strong points is your strong point

I guess having four degrees and a multitude of other achievements puts me in that position.    My track record speaks for itself.  Unlike you and TA who have 0 post secondary education and expect people to credit you as if you are experts.  Get an education, then you can dare to have the audacity to expect some credence on the board and in life in general.  Until then, quit proclaiming to speak on topics you know nothing about.

[shiftedShapes]

I guess having four degrees and a multitude of other achievements puts me in that position.    My track record speaks for itself.  Unlike you and TA who have 0 post secondary education and expect people to credit you as if you are experts.  Get an education, then you can dare to have the audacity to expect some credence on the board and in life in general.  Until then, quit proclaiming to speak on topics you know nothing about.

Listen I'm only 15, by the time I'm your age I'm sure I'll have a few degrees as well.  I don't follow how you have 4 degrees though, I thought you didn't even get your masters yet?

I don't see the relevance of degrees here though, since neither you nor I are medical doctors or have PhD's in physiology.  It seems like you are just trying to avoid substantive debate with distracting appeals to authority.

[Matt C]

Listen I'm only 15, by the time I'm your age I'm sure I'll have a few degrees as well.  I don't follow how you have 4 degrees though, I thought you didn't even get your masters yet?

I don't see the relevance of degrees here though, since neither you nor I are medical doctors or have PhD's in physiology.  It seems like you are just trying to avoid substantive debate with distracting appeals to authority.

Just because an appeal to authority is a fallacy in some cases doesn't mean it is here.  When I say that Einstein made certain claims about physics, would that constitute an appeal to authority?  In that case, it is not a fallacy.  My degrees are in math, psychology, geography, and environmental management, because I made sure all my electives counted towards other degree programs during my undergrad.

[shiftedShapes]

Just because an appeal to authority is a fallacy in some cases doesn't mean it is here.  When I say that Einstein made certain claims about physics, would that constitute an appeal to authority?  In that case, it is not a fallacy.  My degrees are in math, psychology, geography, and environmental management, because I made sure all my electives counted towards other degree programs during my undergrad.

so you had a quadruple major undergrad? 

As I pointed out the appeal to authority was distracting and irrelevant, it was not fallacious because you did not use the appeal to authority to support any point.  You were a math major and you don't understand logic?

[Matt C]

so you had a quadruple major undergrad?

Yes.

Did you need the phone number of my university's alumni office to verify that?

Anyway, the TA principles didn't work for me, so I moved on to what has always worked for me.  What's wrong with doing that?

[davidpaul]

so you had a quadruple major undergrad? 

As I pointed out the appeal to authority was distracting and irrelevant, it was not fallacious because you did not use the appeal to authority to support any point.  You were a math major and you don't understand logic?

He still is one kid.

[pumpher]

Deadlifting 405lb @ 145lb at the age of 15 is very good ShiftedShapes 

It's a shame about that back injury, you probably could come close to challenging the record of 475 at the age/bodyweight

How long have you been working out?

[Krankenstein]

Nahhh i believe him. I used to train with a guy when i was just starting out who was 145 who could bench 365 at 145.

Of course you did........

[The_Leafy_Bug]

Of course you did........

May have been 315... i know it was 315 or greater though. Still a good lift for someone who is 145.

[Camel Jockey]

This topic is true to an extent.

After a few years you will peak unless you start injecting anabolics.

I've improved my body, mainly back and shoulders in the last year or so. I still think I will gain some more size and stop.

[shiftedShapes]

100% correct.
i laugh at all the (natty) noob kids trying to eat the Flex diets thinking it will make them huge bodybuilders LOL

what's even funnier is the getbiggers who have been training 5 plus years and still haven't figured it out.

[shiftedShapes]

Deadlifting 405lb @ 145lb at the age of 15 is very good ShiftedShapes 

It's a shame about that back injury, you probably could come close to challenging the record of 475 at the age/bodyweight

How long have you been working out?

since I was 5

next question

[bigkubby]

lame thread  

[shiftedShapes]

Yes.

Did you need the phone number of my university's alumni office to verify that?

Anyway, the TA principles didn't work for me, so I moved on to what has always worked for me.  What's wrong with doing that?

No need to verify, I'm not impressed by the quad major, the fact that it was possible and that there is a major in "environmental management" shows me that your college was a joke.

Also the problem with your second statement as I have already told you is two fold: 1) you didn't follow the principles, 2) you didn't establish that whatever diet you were on didn't work.

If you said instead: "I think I was eating less than I usually do for two months and at some point I started to feel bad about my appearance."  I wouldn't argue with it.