STEROIDS BULLSHIT!!!!!!!

[wes mantooth]

Youre kidding right? If I even smell smoke I have an asthma attack.    Kids growing up in a household full of smokers have no choice but to breathe it and dont know better to get away from it.

I have seen many families destroyed by alchoholism/drugs, including my own. Dont get me started.

second hand smoke article pulled off yahoo 5 minutes ago....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070628/hl_nm/cancer_smoke_dc

[MCWAY]

this is an argument I have used on occasion.  If the bible says that marriage is the only place where sex should take place and that sex is exclusively for procreations than naturally it can be assumed that childless couples are being immoral. It does say be fruitful and multiple.  It does not state anywhere that sex is for or can be for personal enjoyment.  My wife and I do not have nor do we want to have kids so I guess that makes us immoral.  Also, there are a ton of documented cases of homosexuality in nature so to assume its unnatural is to have a limited understanding of nature. 

That's funny. I don't recall any Bible verse that states that sex is exclusively for procreation. In fact, the New Testament encourages married couples to render "due benevolence" unto one another on a regular basis. In other words, the passage about sex being for personal enjoyment appears to be 1 Cor. 7:3-6.

Can I get an "AMEN!!!!" ? 

[MCWAY]

You have invalidated your previous remark, "It's moraly wrong. There is a reason there is man and woman were created. Procreation." By your reasoning every time YOU have sex without procreating you are immoral. Have you ever used birth control of any kind? I assume you have.

So now tell me why it's wrong for two PEOPLE who feel affection for each other to express that affection and have a life together.

P.S. I am not gay, if that's what you are thinking. But I have good friends and family who are.

How has he invalidated himself?  Jeriko stated that there is a reason man and woman were created: Procreation. That's a reason, not the sole reason.

[gatomjp]

How has he invalidated himself?  Jeriko stated that there is a reason man and woman were created: Procreation. That's a reason, not the sole reason.

First Jeriko said that gays were immoral because they don't procreate. Then I asked him if a man and woman decide to have sex but not procreate are they immoral too? He answered, "No". That is hypocritical and contradictory. He gave no other reason that gays are immoral other than the procreation thing, but he does not hold heteros up to the same standards.