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Re: Milos' Nutrition Concepts
« Reply #25 on: July 07, 2007, 09:54:39 AM »
milos why do you charge 70$ per container that only comes with 15 servings and on top of that we have to  buy three containers man fuck you  >:(

Haha exactly, what a rip off.

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Re: Milos' Nutrition Concepts
« Reply #26 on: July 07, 2007, 10:00:30 AM »
Are the ideas that he explained on PBW old concepts or is this some break through in workout nutrition?

Is he just trying to promote his product and are there other products on the market similar to his?

I know very little about sports nutrition, but what he said made a lot of sense.  He sounds very sincere too.

"Sports" nutrition has nothing to do with "Bodybuilding" nutrition.

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Re: Milos' Nutrition Concepts
« Reply #27 on: July 07, 2007, 10:30:21 AM »
"Sports" nutrition has nothing to do with "Bodybuilding" nutrition.
because its not a sport

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Re: Milos' Nutrition Concepts
« Reply #28 on: July 07, 2007, 10:33:30 AM »
If I'm paying 140 a month for a product, it better come with a box of syringes and some clomid.

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Re: Milos' Nutrition Concepts
« Reply #29 on: July 07, 2007, 11:50:56 AM »
If I'm paying 140 a month for a product, it better come with a box of syringes and some clomid.
ha ha ha ha and maybe some insulin if there is a special going on

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Re: Milos' Nutrition Concepts
« Reply #30 on: July 07, 2007, 01:45:21 PM »
protein powders are made from milk and eggs.  Just eat milk and eggs, they are better for you, cost much less, and taste better.

It called volume. Whey protein is great, when taken in fairly substantial quanitities. Milk has 1 gram of protein per fluid ounce. But, only 20% of that protein is whey.

So, if you want to consume 50 grams of whey, you would need to down 250 fl. oz. of milk, or two gallons of milk. 100 grams of whey requires 500 fl. oz, or nearly four gallons. And, 200 grams of whey would have to come from 1000 fl. oz, close to EIGHT GALLONS.

If you think you can guzzle that much moo juice, knock yourself out. I'll stick to the powder, if you don't mind (or even if you do).

Besides, there are those segments of people with regular jobs, who can't munch round the clock. Meetings, travel, and other job-related issues tend to mess with people's diet. In those scenarios, it's simpler and easier to drink their protein than it is to eat it. Two scoops of egg protein powder go down much faster than the 5-6 eggs one would need to consume to get the same amount of protein.

Boiled eggs stink; scrambled eggs have to be devoured before they get cold, or they taste terrible.

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Re: Milos' Nutrition Concepts
« Reply #31 on: July 07, 2007, 01:52:08 PM »
It called volume. Whey protein is great, when taken in fairly substantial quanitities. Milk has 1 gram of protein per fluid ounce. But, only 20% of that protein is whey.

So, if you want to consume 50 grams of whey, you would need to down 250 fl. oz. of milk, or two gallons of milk. 100 grams of whey requires 500 fl. oz, or nearly four gallons. And, 200 grams of whey would have to come from 1000 fl. oz, close to EIGHT GALLONS.

If you think you can guzzle that much moo juice, knock yourself out. I'll stick to the powder, if you don't mind (or even if you do).

Besides, there are those segments of people with regular jobs, who can't munch round the clock. Meetings, travel, and other job-related issues tend to mess with people's diet. In those scenarios, it's simpler and easier to drink their protein than it is to eat it. Two scoops of egg protein powder go down much faster than the 5-6 eggs one would need to consume to get the same amount of protein.

Boiled eggs stink; scrambled eggs have to be devoured before they get cold, or they taste terrible.

you don't need 100 grams of whey you fuccking moron, you make it sound like you're benching 550 for 20, squatting 750 for 30 and then going out and running a marathon, nobody needs eight gallons of "moo juice" you fuccking clown.

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Re: Milos' Nutrition Concepts
« Reply #32 on: July 07, 2007, 01:52:35 PM »
I'll be back on PBW radio next Monday...and I will continue explaining my theory and answer more questions....so IF you have any - pass it to Bob (before Monday).

I know that some of you would also not believe me if I tell you that grass is green and that sky might be blue...
Oh well...I will just say that some SHOULD OPEN EYES and to their surprise they might realize that indeed - I am pointing out the obvious....

WHOEVER IS NOT CONSIDERING "MY THEORY" is missing out the BEST opportunity to GROW!

It appears that, whenever you promote this supplement regimen, it is coupled with training that features lots of giant sets, with lighter weights. Would you say your methods are equally as effective with more traditional training styles (i.e. straight sets, with reps in the 8-10 range, with 1-2 minutes rest periods)?

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Re: Milos' Nutrition Concepts
« Reply #33 on: July 07, 2007, 02:05:10 PM »
you don't need 100 grams of whey you fuccking moron, you make it sound like you're benching 550 for 20, squatting 750 for 30 and then going out and running a marathon, nobody needs eight gallons of "moo juice" you fuccking clown.

This is why reading comprehension is so important, folks. Without it, you get mush-brained foolishness like this.

If the resident Rhodes scholar, Squadfather, had a clue or had his comprehension switch in the "ON" position, he would have seen the point, that being the reason protein powders are used (regardless of how much protein is needed, GENIUS) is for speed and convenience.

Furthermore, those consuming a mere 100 grams of whey, more often than not, are pushing anywhere near those numbers.

Whey protein is a great protein, when used at certain times. But, again, O ye of big mouth and little sense, whey is only a fifth of milk's protein. Therefore, if one wanted to use a certain amount of whey, he would have to consume 5 times the fluid ounces of milk as the amount (in grams) of whey desired to get it.


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Re: Milos' Nutrition Concepts
« Reply #34 on: July 07, 2007, 02:06:46 PM »
This is why reading comprehension is so important, folks. Without it, you get mush-brained foolishness like this.

If the resident Rhodes scholar, Squadfather, had a clue or had his comprehension switch in the "ON" position, he would have seen the point, that being the reason protein powders are used (regardless of how much protein is needed, GENIUS) is for speed and convenience.

Furthermore, those consuming a mere 100 grams of whey, more often than not, are pushing anywhere near those numbers.

Whey protein is a great protein, when used at certain times. But, again, O ye of big mouth and little sense, whey is only a fifth of milk's protein. Therefore, if one wanted to use a certain amount of whey, he would have to consume 5 times the fluid ounces of milk as the amount (in grams) of whey desired to get it.


hahahahaha, ok "Markus Ruhl" keep shoving in that 500 grams of protein a day in hopes of becoming the muscular beast you've always dreamed of being.

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Re: Milos' Nutrition Concepts
« Reply #35 on: July 07, 2007, 02:14:54 PM »
hahahahaha, ok "Markus Ruhl" keep shoving in that 500 grams of protein a day in hopes of becoming the muscular beast you've always dreamed of being.

Who said I consumed 500 grams of protein? I sure didn't. Again, turn the reading comprehesion switch to the "ON" position, before you start (or should I say, CONTINUE) blubbering such buffoonery.

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Re: Milos' Nutrition Concepts
« Reply #36 on: July 07, 2007, 02:23:48 PM »
hahah try head on , apply directly to the fore head

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Re: Milos' Nutrition Concepts
« Reply #37 on: July 07, 2007, 02:28:58 PM »
hahahahaha, ok "Markus Ruhl" keep shoving in that 500 grams of protein a day in hopes of becoming the muscular beast you've always dreamed of being.

Haha it doesn't matter, i consumed protein in riduculous amounts when i thought the more i take the better i grow, these days i don't use anymore protein supps and take a minium amounts of protein and i still grow. it's al bullshit.

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Re: Milos' Nutrition Concepts
« Reply #38 on: July 07, 2007, 04:33:03 PM »
Egg protein and any tipe of Casein yes, Whey protein don`t prevent muscle brakedown, 

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Re: Milos' Nutrition Concepts
« Reply #39 on: July 07, 2007, 04:35:54 PM »
hahah try head on , apply directly to the fore head

head-on
dood, don't steal and massacre my segue...its:

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Re: Milos' Nutrition Concepts
« Reply #40 on: July 07, 2007, 04:36:48 PM »
dood, don't steal and massacre my segue...its:

Head-On: Apply directly to forehead
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'I CAN'T STAND YOUR COMMERCIALS BUT YOUR PRODUCT IS AMAZING!!!!!!" ;D

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Re: Milos' Nutrition Concepts
« Reply #41 on: July 07, 2007, 04:43:05 PM »
Egg protein and any tipe of Casein yes, Whey protein don`t prevent muscle brakedown, 

Obtaining casein and albumin (egg protein) from milk and eggs, respectively, can be done somewhat easily. But, as I said earlier, whey is only a fifth of milk's protein content.

That's a reason why many people use whey protein powders but get their casein and albumin from milk (or cheese) and eggs.

My personal rule for using supplement is that the supplement must provide high doses of nutrients, that are impossible or impractical to obtain from regular food.


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Re: Milos' Nutrition Concepts
« Reply #42 on: July 07, 2007, 04:45:02 PM »
Obtaining casein and albumin (egg protein) from milk and eggs, respectively, can be done somewhat easily. But, as I said earlier, whey is only a fifth of milk's protein content.

That's a reason why many people use whey protein powders but get their casein and albumin from milk (or cheese) and eggs.

My personal rule for using supplement is that the supplement must provide high doses of nutrients, that are impossible or impractical to obtain from regular food.


yeah because "mcway" is such a freak of nature that what worked for guys like Grimek, Reeves, Arnold, Sergio, Nubret, Franco, etc. won't work for his absolutely huge muscles, he needs "special" nutrients. ::)

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Re: Milos' Nutrition Concepts
« Reply #43 on: July 07, 2007, 05:01:54 PM »
yeah because "mcway" is such a freak of nature that what worked for guys like Grimek, Reeves, Arnold, Sergio, Nubret, Franco, etc. won't work for his absolutely huge muscles, he needs "special" nutrients. ::)


It seems that Metatarsal protein is your nutrient of choice, because you can't seem to keep your foot out of your mouth, as deomonstrared by yet another bone-headed post.

What I said was that, if it's impossible or impractical to ingest a certain amount of nutrients by comsuming regular food, then supplements come into play.

If one has a job, where eating large quantites of protein is quite difficult, then protein supplements are of great aid.

What the brain inside your thick, but cracked skull, has yet to process is that this isn't a "Food vs. supplements" issue. But, rather, it is how to use the best of both to get desired results.

Maybe sometime, between now and the time the Bills win a Super Bowl, you'll come up with something that shows you actually had a hearty breakfast this morning.

Almost forgot! Many of the bodybuilders you mentioned, including one that will be turning 60 in about three weeks, used protein supplements.

But, why let such facts deter your quest to sound ridiciously silly?

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Re: Milos' Nutrition Concepts
« Reply #44 on: July 07, 2007, 10:09:36 PM »
Obtaining casein and albumin (egg protein) from milk and eggs, respectively, can be done somewhat easily. But, as I said earlier, whey is only a fifth of milk's protein content.

That's a reason why many people use whey protein powders but get their casein and albumin from milk (or cheese) and eggs.

My personal rule for using supplement is that the supplement must provide high doses of nutrients, that are impossible or impractical to obtain from regular food.



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Re: Milos' Nutrition Concepts
« Reply #45 on: July 07, 2007, 10:32:16 PM »
Milk is better then just Whey protein, my recommendation don`t use Whey protein that all, not even post workout. Take 2 gram of Bifidobacterium longum (BB536) with nonfat Milk, or drink fresh non pasteurised nonfat milk. In any situation no Whey. It is a study on WP vs CAS, whole body protein brake down
was inhibited by 34% after casein and a big 0% after whey, you will never see the studies in any Bodybuilding magazines, and I am sure you know why.

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Re: Milos' Nutrition Concepts
« Reply #46 on: July 08, 2007, 12:42:43 AM »
you make a claim but don't back it up with any kind of proof

I use ON and think that it is pretty good

why pay milos $70 for whey/virtago/create/glut/leucine?

It is NOT whey, vitargo...etc...IT IS VERY SPECIFIC FORMULA...and I am not forcing anyone to try it...
But, when people start wondering HOW AND WHY my guys make such incredible gains in such a short time - it is easy to assume - IT IS ALL DRUGS... ::)

I had GREAT success with drug free guys that made improvements with my supplements alone who were immediately accused of "cheating"...got tested and passed every test.
Interestingly - some guys would think IT IS ALWAYS ABOUT MONEY...Milos wants to rip us off...so I will continue taking whey and vitargo...

Well, you guys continue taking what you are taking...I have absolutely no problem with that ;).

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Re: Milos' Nutrition Concepts
« Reply #47 on: July 08, 2007, 12:53:16 AM »
you pay $70 for malto and dextro etc.. it doesn't include Vitargo.

You pay $70  for the HIGHEST quality pharmaceutical grade AJINOPURE amino acids which would coast you DOUBLE that - if you are pharmaceutical company trying to purchase the same aminos from AJINOMOTO company for IV mix used in the hospitals...

Malto and dextrose are there ONLY as a "driver" of those aminos into the muscle cells...Vitargo IS NOT better or more beneficial - and therefore I didn't include it in my drink...However, everything else is there AS IT NEEDS TO BE...

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Re: Milos' Nutrition Concepts
« Reply #48 on: July 08, 2007, 01:00:43 AM »
milos why do you charge 70$ per container that only comes with 15 servings and on top of that we have to  buy three containers man fuck you  >:(

Wow...how nice...

Would you like to come to see me personally and tell me that to my face?
You can find me at 1101 South Placentia Avenue, Fullerton CA 92831.

Just tell me when would you like to come and I will make sure to be there...
After all - you must have a reason to tell me what you just did.

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Re: Milos' Nutrition Concepts
« Reply #49 on: July 08, 2007, 01:02:19 AM »
LOL!  Man, I'm not saying I agree with you, but that was funny as hell!!  ;D

LOL, really funny indeed...
Telling someone F - YOU  for what reason exactly?