GH15 Question.

[The True Adonis]

I believe there is a higher power that we head to when we check out on earth. 

I think that making it about "a guy with a beard in the clouds" is a tad too simplistic.  whatever power/force created us and takes us, it's beyond our comprehension, and to act like we "KNOW" something about it- because we've been told by other mortal men - is silly.

So we can't prove it.  Also, we're closer to proving evolution, but man's science is so elementary.  400 years ago we were hanging people for correctly showing the solar system rotations. 

The bones in the dirt do say we used to be monkeys - and that's very well possible.  You can believe in a God and still believe in a world system where cells grew into fish which grew into monkeys which grew into men.  If you can honestly tell me you believe the men have souls, but monkeys don't, well hey, great.  However, IMO it's something much larger - an energy or force or plane where our consciousness goes when the body fails, and yes, animals have a consciousness. 

Arguing about it is pointless.  You can't PROVE anything either way.

You should be smarter than that Rob.  There is Zero evidence to support your belief of what you regard as a "higher power that you will check in to".

You do not for one second believe there is a steroid syringe that talks which orbits the earth. You can`t prove that there isn`t one, but all probability points to the fact that it does not exist.  Just like your "Higher Power".

Saying that you can`t prove something and then believing only because of that assessment is not only ignorant, it does not make your belief true.

[The True Adonis]

I believe there is a higher power that we head to when we check out on earth. 

I think that making it about "a guy with a beard in the clouds" is a tad too simplistic.  whatever power/force created us and takes us, it's beyond our comprehension, and to act like we "KNOW" something about it- because we've been told by other mortal men - is silly.

So we can't prove it.  Also, we're closer to proving evolution, but man's science is so elementary.  400 years ago we were hanging people for correctly showing the solar system rotations. 

The bones in the dirt do say we used to be monkeys - and that's very well possible.  You can believe in a God and still believe in a world system where cells grew into fish which grew into monkeys which grew into men.  If you can honestly tell me you believe the men have souls, but monkeys don't, well hey, great.  However, IMO it's something much larger - an energy or force or plane where our consciousness goes when the body fails, and yes, animals have a consciousness. 

Arguing about it is pointless.  You can't PROVE anything either way.

You can`t believe in a god and science because when you say "God did it" you are surrendering the true occurrence and process to an assinine one. 

[The True Adonis]

if it were a fact there would no debates about it in the scientific world, there have only been theories not facts in relation to "evolution" and considering most of the theories have been debunked that pretty much puts you're disbeliefs in the crapper!

Speaking of fiction.....how that 225X13 DL video coming along?

Nothing has ever penetrated Evolution.  Not one thing.

[Vince B]

Ah, metaphysics and evolution. Maybe we can get an intelligent design debate going? Hope not. Believers should read Dawking's new book, "The God Delusion". Lots of nonsense believed by religious people.

The account of evolution posted by 240 is false. They burned a bloke at the stake for his beliefs about the solar system. Can you imagine if we could transport one of those Inquisition courts to the present time? Now that would be fun to watch.

People believe you need lots of drugs to get big muscles. Doesn't mean that belief is true.

[Rimbaud]

Why does it get under your skin so much about what others believe or don't believe?

[The True Adonis]

Why does it get under your skin so much about what others believe or don't believe?

It affects all of our policies regarding disease, medicine, technological progress, enviromental issues, scientific progress, etc...


When the truth it available, it makes no sense to believe in something false, especially when it will effect many more people.

Religion and Faith( the unwarranted belief with no evidence) are viruses.

[Rimbaud]

It affects all of our policies regarding disease, medicine, technological progress, enviromental issues, scientific progress, etc...


When the truth it available, it makes no sense to believe in something false, especially when it will effect many more people.

Religion and Faith( the unwarranted belief with no evidence) are viruses.

So 240 believing in a higher power is holding us all back?

[Bast000]

So 240 believing in a higher power is holding us all back?

Yes, he actually voted for Bush.  lol

[Rimbaud]

Yes, he actually voted for Bush.  lol

Good point. 

[The True Adonis]

So 240 believing in a higher power is holding us all back?

Of course.  He may teach his child that nonsense, which will keep the myth going.  

[The True Adonis]

So 240 believing in a higher power is holding us all back?

Also, he is missing out on the chance to truly find the correct answers and spreading the knowledge.

The more people are educated and enlightened and the sharing of such ideas, the better off we all are.

We don`t have all the answers of course, but the ones we do have and know, are worth learning and spreading.

[Vince B]

They did a good thing in the constitution by separating Church and State. A pity they didn't get rid of the churches completely. Look at the consequences of those with religious beliefs. Some do extreme things that impact on all of us. Why would anyone willingly sacrifice his life if he didn't believe he was going somewhere better? Ah, the fools that multiply. The believers end up restricting all of us.

I think what Adonis is saying is that atheism should be embraced instead of religions. If we can put ethics on a rational basis we might have better societies and more people finding happiness.

[The True Adonis]

So 240 believing in a higher power is holding us all back?

Also, let me add that moderates and wishy-washy believers to an extent, allow for radicalism to exist and paves its way.  They both afterall, accept belief without evidence with the latter being more obiding by their true dogma.  So yes, this belief is harmful to us all as we see what Extremists can do.

[The Coach]

Nothing has ever penetrated Evolution.  Not one thing.

Sure there has!!

[The True Adonis]

Sure there has!!

Find me just one credible scientist or argument other than God did it.

Just one.  Find one scientific flaw.  You can`t.  One does not exist. Evolution has stood without error and this is recognized universally.

[Camel Jockey]

Find me just one credible scientist or argument other than God did it.

Just one.  Find one scientific flaw.  You can`t.  One does not exist. Evolution has stood without error and this is recognized universally.

Watch out! He'll post some rubbish from a creation website.. I've been down this very road with him before. He'll post some sort of nonsense with heavy emphasis on some sort of gap. As though because that gap can't yet it be covered, it automatically proves his fairy tales from the mideast to be true.

You shouldn't even bother with creationists.. Debating them gives them the attention they crave.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

I believe in Jesus Christ as my savior.....


Vince & Adonis can say what they want but fortunately, not everyone is as  close-minded. 


Its all about Faith

[Vince B]

Melvin is the epitome of a wannabe great. Good stuff, Melvin, you are an pathfinder.

Adonis is stating that religions have lots of answers for guys like Goodrum but no explanations.

[Camel Jockey]

I believe in Jesus Christ as my savior.....


Vince & Adonis can say what they want but fortunately, not everyone is as  close-minded. 


Its all about Faith

Ask jesus to rid you of your ugly looks and high body fat.

[Camel Jockey]

Melvin is the epitome of a wannabe great. Good stuff, Melvin, you are an pathfinder.

Adonis is stating that religions have lots of answers for guys like Goodrum but no explanations.

Intelligence is normally distributed.

As most intelligence switch, so will the average and stupid ones.

Bell curve anyone?

[Vince B]

The average IQ on Getbig is about 100. Same as the average for everyone. There are plenty of guys here in the below 100 category and dare I say some are definitely morons. That is why so many simple subjects are misunderstood on Getbig.

[Camel Jockey]

The average IQ on Getbig is about 100. Same as the average for everyone. There are plenty of guys here in the below 100 category and dare I say some are definitely morons. That is why so many simple subjects are misunderstood on Getbig.

Where would you place Melvin Goodrum?

[The Coach]

Watch out! He'll post some rubbish from a creation website.. I've been down this very road with him before. He'll post some sort of nonsense with heavy emphasis on some sort of gap. As though because that gap can't yet it be covered, it automatically proves his fairy tales from the mideast to be true.

You shouldn't even bother with creationists.. Debating them gives them the attention they crave.

As opposed to posting one from some "rubbish" athiest/evolution site??

[Vince B]

I suspect that Melvin is oblivious of his intelligence level and that is why he is appreciated on Getbig.

[The True Adonis]

I believe in Jesus Christ as my savior.....


Vince & Adonis can say what they want but fortunately, not everyone is as  close-minded. 


Its all about Faith

Faith is the belief in the abscence of evidence.  IS that really a good way to approach things?