Incentive(s) to train in a hardcore gym?

[Thin Lizzy]

Do hardcore gyms still exist? I thought they became extinct due to indifference.

[Croatch]

Funniest thing I've seen in a reply.  Good stuff!

Because being a natural pussy u are scared to risk ur health by taking a shit load of drugs, which has the ability to make u a chemical monster!
I enjoy hardcore gyms, the chemical experiments give me motivation to train harder, and the freaks make u small. Do u consider urself to be the best built guy where U train? I f u do u have no space for improvement. If u were at a gym with ppl a lot better than u it would belittle u and should make u humble, and wanna train harder. a lot of naturals train at hardcore gyms for this reason, competing against what they cant beat, delivers the best physique they can build.

Tell yourself what you gotta.  Do you realize how dumb you sound.  I guess I'm a pussy because I don't shoot heroin or blow lines of coke either...haha  Damn, that was dumb.  Lastly, it's not a fear of health that I don't take gear, but the ease in which you make gains is laughable, plus it's just a progressive thing.  One week it's this drug, 2 years later it's 5 at once, plus other shit.  Trust me, if training natural were the easier of the two roads, everyone would be doing it.  I see it all the time, bloated messes thinking they're accomplishing something, but in reality, they only push pins, nothing more.  Some of these cheesers workouts make me laugh.  Yapping on the cell phone, rapping about gear for 5 minutes in between sets.  Don't confuse pushing something to the next level, with relying on drugs to achieve a mediocre physique.  Unless you resemble a pro, it's just not impressive.

[bigmike 79]

shit my gym sucks i live in a town about 5000 peoplein texas only a small gym the db go only to 70lbs and only  have one bench and one incline the place sucks and i am the only on that lifts very hard and people look at me that i am crazy because i lift very heavy and the owner  is bitch because i get decrimnated i can't get on the cardio equipment becasue i too big and i almost got kick out because i was listen to hard rock on cd player and get blamed for the barbells for being bent its not my fault they have a cheap BB i will post of the gym soon you will  see what crapy gym i workout in the nearest golds gym is 70miles away and i get blamed for everything that happens if something gets broken i got in trouble deadlifting too much that i was going to break the floor and i would be happy to workout in hardcore gym

[suckmymuscle]

this guy woke up this mornin an had to enlighten us with this bullshit.

  Agreed.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[jonsande]

That was a really insightful post by the thread starter. 

I'd like to say that my gym has a good balance between hardcore and mainstream, which is interesting because I've never seen or been in a 'hybrid' before.  There's definitely at least 3 obvious competing amateur bodybuilders that I can pick out, as well as a amateur fitness competitor.  I've noticed only 1 potential powerlifter, but he generally comes late at night since he uses a lot of weight and time. There's also this huge, masculine looking lady who looks like she could have been a female bodybuilder earlier in her prime, maybe back in the 80's or so since she's probably in her late 50's.  I suppose the rest of the people there are more or less average, but definitely in better shape than a Joe Schmo on the street. 

Then there's the guys that come in and yack with each other as they all cycle off on bench presses for over an hour, as well as the tardish with a fannypack and clown pants.  There's also one of the strange 'alternative' workout guys who spends the beginning of each of his routines by hanging upside down from a pull-up bar for at least a couple of minutes after slapping on his obnoxious weightlifting shoes and rolling up his sleeves  . 

There's also a mix of trainers who clearly know what's up and those that are your typical jack off trainer.  One guy in particular looks like he barely lifts weights, and everytime I see him, to quote Mike Mentzer's moustache, is always "fraternizing" with his own clients, who all 'happen' to be female .  He's probably the least serious trainer I've ever had the displeasure of seeing in action. 

Maybe I'm used to it, but I'm able to clear my head pretty well and focus on my sets.  I guess all I need is a few people that are obviously really into their training and have the mass and cuts to show for it, and it makes ignoring other people much easier.  It seems like that's how the other focused people are also.  There might be some sort of unspoken acknowledgement between all of us since we give each other space and the occasional nod.  I don't really talk to anyone there.  I go in, do my lifts, and rush out of there so I can hurry home to my post workout shake and whitebread slices. 

[Charlys69]

I train in both, "hardcore-gyms" & "Fitnesscenter".

Most improtant for me is the equipment.........the training intensity is the same, hc oder fitness-center.....


P.S.   1 gym owner i know claims his gym a harcore-gym because of the fact he did not by 1 new machine in the last 25 years (still looks like in the 70`s)

[Palpatine Q]

I think you are thinking way too long and hard about this stuff. I'm not going to go the usualy getbig route and call you a pussy and all that I just think that there are different gyms for different people. I own the so-called "hard-core" gym in my area and it has a great and condusive atmosphere. We keep it very clean and don't try to bust anybody's balls. Some people around here love my place, some people around here go to the Bally's down the road.

Where's your gym at Steve ?

I'm on L.I.