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« on: July 15, 2007, 03:04:32 PM »

with me on our walks. Like one of those little Louisville sluggers.  For people and unleashed dogs. 

 Had all 4 out for a walk and a rottie comes tearing over and launches himself into my big 3.  He aimed for Addie and kind of bounced off her (she really is a brick shithouse!) and then my 3 got on him but no bloodshed, just a tussle really, and then he ran back for the house.  It seemed like it was longer than it actually was because I was wondering how I was going to get in the middle of 4 dogs, but I had already formed that thought when I saw him coming. And I also managed to plant myself to  get my dogs under control for when he hit us.  All in all my dogs were really good considering what happened.

  When the lady came out of her house to get him I told her "to get her fucking dog".   Roll Eyes    Ok, I was not happy, like could be expected.   She didn't even apologize or ask if mine were ok or me for that matter.   Angry  No marks on mine, no clue if he got any.  Surprisingly mine were not really fazed by it much, I even got them all into a sit while I untangled Tad (good thing he has a halter collar or he could end up getting hung in tussle like that) and we were back on our way. 

  I know it was an accident, I didn't even see him, he could of bolted out of their door when he saw us, but it does tick me off that she didn't even inquire if everyone was ok and apologize.    Angry

   It incidents like that that make me wonder if I should walk all 4 together or if it would be safer to split them up?  On one hand it could be a bigger tussle with all of them together, on the other hand dogs have come towards them before but then have turned around when faced with all 3 big ones, so is it actually safer with the 3 big dogs together?   Undecided

  That's why the bat, I could bonk the dog on the head and use it as a bite stick if I had to.  Believe me, I would be pulling them apart if I had too.  Mace or pepper spray (both which I think are illegal here) would spray my dogs too and me and while I might have been able to blast the rottie in the face before he got to my dogs, I really don't want to go around spraying that if I really didn't have to.  While feeling a bit bad, I would of felt justified today though. 
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« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2007, 03:06:28 PM »



dogs are more used to "tussling" than human beings . . . that's why it didn't faze them, but left you w thoughts of louisville sluggers.
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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2007, 03:11:48 PM »

that said, there is no easy solution.

bat - you're going to look like a crazy woman.

mini-taser - your dogs will tear into a dog lying prone. and you could zap one of your own accidentally.

bear spray - going to get on your own dogs.
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« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2007, 03:13:33 PM »


dogs are more used to "tussling" than human beings . . . that's why it didn't faze them, but left you w thoughts of louisville sluggers.

True, and that thought did cross my mind afterwards, but their could come an instance where it wouldn't " go as smoothly" as it did.   One of mine could of given him a good snap and he could of decided he wasn't taking that and it could of been a big brawl or he could of latched on to Addie.  My big dogs weigh close to 400pounds combined, then add in the other dog's weight, and I have to break it up.  Not something I really want to do.  We're not talking that I could get punched or something, so I would rather bonk than have to stick my hands in there and get bit in the face too.
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« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2007, 03:17:24 PM »

that said, there is no easy solution.

bat - you're going to look like a crazy woman.

mini-taser - your dogs will tear into a dog lying prone.

bear spray - going to get on your own dogs.

I wouldn't be walking around waving it in the air.   Grin   But if that had turned into a fight I could of bonked him on the head or side or whatever. If it came down to it and mine were then turning on the other dog, a whack might get them to let the other dog go too.     

  My dogs didn't tear into him, he jumped on Addie who was in the middle, then when he fell off her my 3 rushed him but they weren't snarling they kind of just jumped up on him.    My 3 aren't other dog aggressive, they sometimes would like to go check out another dog, but not to attack it.   I have no clue if another dog rushing us is dog aggressive though. 
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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2007, 03:19:48 PM »


if you successfully tazed a dog attacking one of yours . . . seeing it stunned and helpless might provoke an instinctive attack from one of yours. 

even using a bat's going to be difficult and not worth the effort (bats were meant for swinging).

what you want is a mini cattle prod. I'm sure they're out there.
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« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2007, 03:24:33 PM »

if you successfully tazed a dog attacking one of yours . . . seeing it stunned and helpless might provoke an instinctive attack from one of yours. 

even using a bat's going to be difficult and not worth the effort (bats were meant for swinging).

what you want is a mini cattle prod. I'm sure they're out there.



  There are a few people that would say me having a cattle prod, would NOT be a good idea.   Grin

 And I never mentioned a tazer, I don't know if they are legal either. 

  I guess I should just be prepared to jump in then. Undecided  Odds are it will never be necessary, and if I had that little bat today I might of bonked that woman for not apologizing. 
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« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2007, 04:13:44 PM »


dogs are more used to "tussling" than human beings . . . that's why it didn't faze them, but left you w thoughts of louisville sluggers.

I would agree with this

Just curious....was the Rottie growling, snapping, & ears rolled back like an attack?

Being that we have a Rottie & have been around a lot of Rotties (breeders & etc) they do like to rough house & play hard.  Probably more than I have seen in most breeds.

Another thing you could try (depending on the situation)...Is if you see a dog approaching & if you have time to control your dogs....get in front of them with one of those air horns & point it right at the on coming dog. 

It may spook your dogs...but they won't be getting nearly half the blast an on coming dog will get & most likely..will turn around.  The noise may also get the attention of the owner of the dog as well.
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« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2007, 04:49:15 PM »

just go with 4, a single dog is less likely to attack a "pack"
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« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2007, 05:41:24 PM »

I would agree with this

Just curious....was the Rottie growling, snapping, & ears rolled back like an attack?

Being that we have a Rottie & have been around a lot of Rotties (breeders & etc) they do like to rough house & play hard.  Probably more than I have seen in most breeds.

Another thing you could try (depending on the situation)...Is if you see a dog approaching & if you have time to control your dogs....get in front of them with one of those air horns & point it right at the on coming dog. 

It may spook your dogs...but they won't be getting nearly half the blast an on coming dog will get & most likely..will turn around.  The noise may also get the attention of the owner of the dog as well.

 He had his mouth open, ears back and LAUNCHED himself on top of Addie.  He was running full blast at us. I heard him coming before I saw him.  He came across the street at us.   He didn't come up sniffing, and dogs usually don't go charging strange dogs and jump on them like that to say hello.    His goal appeared to be to take Addie down but that obviously didn't work.   Roll Eyes   If he just wanted to say hello he better learn some doggie manners quick because the next dog he does that too might not be so tolerant of that.  That is NOT accepted behavior by other dogs.   I wonder why he went for Addie who was in the middle? Emmett was on the left, Briona on the right, he jumped right in the middle.   Addie and Briona love kicking each other's butts which is probably why they weren't really impressed by him. 

  The horn is a good idea, never thought of that. It definitely would get everyone's attention. 

  That woman still owes me an apology. 
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« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2007, 05:47:54 PM »

  I think I figured it out, they were in the rottie's territory in their 'colors', red for me of course.   Cool  Cool


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« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2007, 06:48:10 PM »

she does owe you an apology, and maybe a backrub  Cool
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« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2007, 07:18:22 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2007, 05:13:38 AM »

I think a airhorn isn't a bad idea actually...the reaction of the dog could go both ways though..
Maybe the sound of the horn makes him even more agressive?....bottom line is you don't know how the attacking dog is going to react.

If is was me i would plit the 4 up and go for seperate walks.
This time the outcome was ok but what if the next time your dogs deside it's not ok for another dog to attack them in that way? Are you capable of pulling 3 Great danes off of another dog when they go crazy? It could get very ugly!
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« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2007, 05:49:53 AM »

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« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2007, 05:58:30 AM »

I think a airhorn isn't a bad idea actually...the reaction of the dog could go both ways though..
Maybe the sound of the horn makes him even more agressive?....bottom line is you don't know how the attacking dog is going to react.

If is was me i would plit the 4 up and go for separate walks.
This time the outcome was ok but what if the next time your dogs deside it's not ok for another dog to attack them in that way? Are you capable of pulling 3 Great danes off of another dog when they go crazy? It could get very ugly!

  I'm gonna live dangerously!! I was capable of holding my 3 from running after the rottie, so I guess I can hold my own.  We enjoy our walks, why should we have to give that up?  My dogs are not dog aggressive which is why they didn't bite that rottie despite his rudeness.   I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt that his intentions were not to get into a fight, but his manners suck as far as meeting new dogs.  It's one thing to come up to a new dog, it's entirely different to pile drive them!

 I am going to see if "dog repellent" is legal here.

   http://www.tbotech.com/dogrepellent.htm

  We will continue to go down that street too, but if he comes at us again I will be in front of my dogs and he will be getting a kick if he doesn't back off.
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« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2007, 06:03:56 AM »

NOTE: We can not ship repellents internationally or to the state of New York.

         Angry


  The highest crime state and we are supposed to be defenseless.   Angry
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« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2007, 06:11:41 AM »

Hmm, maybe they are legal but the State of NY can play with the interpretation of the law?


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Iíve created a lot of confusion with my previous email about animal repellers.

Based on the advice from Mace, I previously decided not to drop ship animal repellers (dog repellent and bear repellent sprays) to New York. They said there was no law against it except for the interpretation New York would probably give it. Mace did not feel like getting into it with New York.

New York is the bastian of government control over the lives of its citizens. Pepper spray is not illegal in New York, but they want to control who sells it.

Iím going to change my stance on this and will probably reap the wrath of the state of New York eventually. The animal repellers are FDA approved by the Federal Government. Citizens have the right to own them. So, we will drop ship animal repellers to New York until Iím forced to stop.

To repeat, we WILL drop ship animal repellers to New York.
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« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2007, 06:11:48 AM »

Here is a quick story for ya red,

My training partner, has a Chow/ Germ-Shep mix that looks like a red Shepard and a pure bred Am/Staff Terrier. Since he works a lot his dad stops by to walk the dogs every afternoon. On their daily walks, a big mix breed that looks like a brindle American BD would throw himself at the front window that only had screens in it. My buddy's dad grabbed a slag hammer out of the garage the next week when he walked the dogs past the house. Naturally  this was the time the dog broke through the screen and charged them. So dad threw the hammer at the dog and missed so he just dropped the leash and got out of the way. Needless to day it was a real bad day for the bully mix. My buddy's Am/staff chewed up the dog really bad as the dog was trying to get back in the house she was still laying into him and took off an ear before dad could grab the leash again. When my buddy got home  he had to take his Staffy to the vet for some cuts on her nose and face. The next week when he was walking the dog again past that house the bully mix was gone and has never been back.  Now he carries a cell phone and a can of mace with him. Its sad to think this all could have been prevented.

I had a similar incident happen to me when O dog was a pup and I was walking him down the dead end to the woods. Some jerkass neighbor doenst keep his black germ Shep on a leash in the dead end.  When I was walking past the house on a snowy day it came rippin up the driveway growling at us. So I scooped little O up and turned my body a little. The dog just danced around us a little barking and snapping. The owner came to the front door and called the dog back in the house with out saying a word. So I walked over and knocked on the door and asked the guy if he knew their was a leash law in our boro. He said ya ha did but his dog is basically friendly except to other dogs. I kindly told him the next time it happend I would mace his dog and call the police. Needless to say his not very nice to us anymore  Huh
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« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2007, 06:16:38 AM »

NEW YORK - New York residents may only purchase defense sprays from licensed Firearms Dealers or licensed Pharmacists in that state.


  I'm getting me some pepper spray!!!          Grin


  Could be useful against people on our walks too, have have a few situations that I was feeling a bit nervous in.
 

   
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« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2007, 06:38:40 AM »

Lord Fatty, that first one was especially scary!!!     Shocked   I don't want my dogs, me, or any other dog to get hurt.

  I think yesterday the dog got out of the house somehow.  But we have been walking around and dogs are out of leash with people.  Most if they are on the other side of the street don't really pay much attention to us, but one that I didn't even see came running around the side of a house from behind us, my dogs all turned around and he hightailed it back to his owner with his tail between his legs. That was kind of funny!  He looked like he was coming to check us out, not attack, but then thought maybe he would pass. 

  Most people will get a hold of their dogs or bring them inside when they see us coming.  Aren't they worried they will run into traffic if they don't see a dog coming though?  Or their dog might be friendly but not every other dog is. 

  Addie knows where all the dogs are on our walks and when we get close to the house she is looking and speeds up to get by the house.  She doesn't like dogs jumping at fences at us (cept for little dogs, then she likes to run the fence with them  Roll Eyes )


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« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2007, 06:45:57 AM »

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« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2007, 07:48:59 AM »

I wouldnt use a bat or something like that.  Beating a dog in the middle of a fight can actually make the fight worse depending on the dog.  Basically I see it as if the dog doesn't know what is hitting them, they just know something is and as a result they are going to fight all the harder to try to get it off them--or worse you can turn a dog attack away from your dog to you. 

Air horns are a great alternative.  Stick it up by the fighting dogs heads---yes I know its going to be hard on their ears, but it will almost always distract them and with any luck it will get the dogs owners attention. 

Pepper spray (Bear spray) is a better alternative than mace if you ask me, primarily becuase you can flush your pets eyes directly and give them some treatment if there is an accidental exposure.  Also, there is less risk of allergic reaction with pepperspray than with mace.  If you live in a place like NY, a "DIY" alternative is a ziplock baggie full of red/cheyenne pepper.  Poor ti over the dogs face if it grabs one of yours.  Just beware, pepper is going everywhere.  Vinager also works, but is bulkier. 

Just be aware of using mace/pepper spray you may expose yourself.  Bear spray is not fun stuff.   
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« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2007, 07:57:33 AM »

You think an air horn will also work on drunk guys?   Roll Eyes

 I would prefer not to use anything, but I would rather be prepared.

  I should be able to find an air gun easier than getting mace or pepper spray here in NY.   

  Thanks for the tips, I think the cayenne pepper in a bag is a good one. 


 The horn, and if that doesn't prevent or stop an altercation, they get the pepper. 

 The when the owner comes over and a) doesn't apologize, and or b) says how nice their dog is so they leave it off leash  I will blast THEM with the air horn.


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