Author Topic: Is Gonzaga going to beat Couture? Any Thoughts? (Read 4458 times)

Iraclese · « **on:** July 16, 2007, 06:02:28 PM »

What do you guys think?

bigbalddaddy · « **Reply #1 on:** July 16, 2007, 06:19:46 PM »

not a fucking chance!

SinCitysmallGUY · « **Reply #2 on:** July 16, 2007, 07:33:05 PM »

Who fucking knows. He stomped the shit out of Crocop. No matter what I hope someone gets knocked out.

Earl1972 · « **Reply #3 on:** July 16, 2007, 09:30:20 PM »

just because randy knew exactly how to beat tim and had the perfect style for executing it doesn't mean he is the same fighter he was in his prime

gonzaga wins easily

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americanbulldog · « **Reply #4 on:** July 16, 2007, 09:48:03 PM »

On paper, Napao will win a decisive TKO victory in the third or fourth. This is Captain America. He should have lost on paper to Chuck (the first time), Tito, Maurice Smith, Vitor (first), heck even Tim Sylvia.

Archer77 · « **Reply #5 on:** July 16, 2007, 10:41:01 PM »

Gonzaga has a good chance of beating Couture. Couture traditionally hasn't done well against larger wrestlers, Barnett is an example of that. Sylvia while large was a bit different because he wasn't known for his ground game and has very little strength there. Sylvia relied on his reach advantage(it certainly wasn't blinding speed) I hope Couture can defend the belt a couple of times and then retire.

americanbulldog · « **Reply #6 on:** July 16, 2007, 11:26:40 PM »

Quote from: Archer77 on July 16, 2007, 10:41:01 PM

Gonzaga has a good chance of beating Couture. Couture traditionally hasn't done well against larger wrestlers, Barnett is an example of that. Sylvia while large was a bit different because he wasn't known for his ground game and has very little strength there. Sylvia relied on his reach advantage(it certainly wasn't blinding speed) I hope Couture can defend the belt a couple of times and then retire.

Both Ricco and Josh killed Randy on the ground. Randy hasn't fought much off his back except those two fights. Gonzaga is good at striking, and great on the ground. Randy's forte is the middle range in the clinch. I don't know if Randy can get top position, if he can maintain that and avoid the subs, he can grind out a win. Otherwise I see Napao getting the top, and mashing Randy until the ref steps in. Napao should be favored.

Archer77 · « **Reply #7 on:** July 17, 2007, 10:14:23 AM »

Quote from: americanbulldog on July 16, 2007, 11:26:40 PM

Both Ricco and Josh killed Randy on the ground. Randy hasn't fought much off his back except those two fights. Gonzaga is good at striking, and great on the ground. Randy's forte is the middle range in the clinch. I don't know if Randy can get top position, if he can maintain that and avoid the subs, he can grind out a win. Otherwise I see Napao getting the top, and mashing Randy until the ref steps in. Napao should be favored.

I agree. If a larger grappler gets randy on the ground he is going to have a much harder time if not an impossible time getting back up.

RancherRanger · « **Reply #8 on:** July 17, 2007, 10:40:52 AM »

I don't think Randy has knockout power so eventually he's gonna end up on his back. This is not a good matchup for Capt. America. Crocop fit his style more, Napao will be the new heavyweight champ.

americanbulldog · « **Reply #9 on:** July 17, 2007, 12:48:13 PM »

Quote from: RancherRanger on July 17, 2007, 10:40:52 AM

I don't think Randy has knockout power so eventually he's gonna end up on his back. This is not a good matchup for Capt. America. Crocop fit his style more, Napao will be the new heavyweight champ.

Styles makes fights, and Randy doesn't match up stylistically well against Napao. Big Nog does, Vera does, (although he isn't scheduled to fight anytime soon), Fedor does. But Randy is Randy, and he has pulled off some miracles in the past. We will see.

*ChuteBoxe* · « **Reply #10 on:** July 17, 2007, 05:46:23 PM »

Gonzaga (240lbs) isn't quite as big as Ricco(255) or Barnett (250lbs) when they fought Randy, and Randy's bjj has improved by leaps and bounds since then (as you could see when had that grappling match with Jacare, granted Jacare only weighs about 185-190lbs, he's still a bad mofo). It's a tough call, but, I can see Randy coming into this fight with his head on straight, and a good gameplan, he may have to weather an early storm but I think he can pull it off. Although I do agree, it's a bad match up for Randy.

daddy8ball · « **Reply #11 on:** July 17, 2007, 06:46:24 PM »

I'm calling Gonzaga. 2nd round by submission.

americanbulldog · « **Reply #12 on:** July 18, 2007, 12:04:52 AM »

Quote from: *ChuteBoxe* on July 17, 2007, 05:46:23 PM

Gonzaga (240lbs) isn't quite as big as Ricco(255) or Barnett (250lbs) when they fought Randy, and Randy's bjj has improved by leaps and bounds since then (as you could see when had that grappling match with Jacare, granted Jacare only weighs about 185-190lbs, he's still a bad mofo). It's a tough call, but, I can see Randy coming into this fight with his head on straight, and a good gameplan, he may have to weather an early storm but I think he can pull it off. Although I do agree, it's a bad match up for Randy.

I'm hoping you are right, but Napao has fought in ADCC, is a BJJ black belt of high caliber, showed good GNP against Mirko. His striking is effective as well, and I think he will be more explosive than Randy. Randy is the king of the clinch, and I am hoping he can keep the fight there, or get top position without getting subbed. Jacare, as great as he is gives up 60 lbs to Napao.

Thin Lizzy · « **Reply #13 on:** July 19, 2007, 05:16:48 AM »

I think Gonzaga's arsenal in addition to his size and youth will be too much for Randy, but, as other have said, Randy is not a guy I'd feel confident betting against.

Wombat · « **Reply #14 on:** July 21, 2007, 10:12:41 PM »

i think its a toss up...What Gonzago did to CroCop has to have Randy taking this fight very seriously...

I'll go with Gonzago winning by TKO in the 2nd round..

americanbulldog · « **Reply #15 on:** July 22, 2007, 12:29:13 AM »

Quote from: Wombat on July 21, 2007, 10:12:41 PM

i think its a toss up...What Gonzago did to CroCop has to have Randy taking this fight very seriously...

I'll go with Gonzago winning by TKO in the 2nd round..

Gonzaga's boxing looked good, much better than when he debuted against Jordan. His ground and pound looked seemless, it was the reason he caught Mirko looking with the right leg high kick.

BDsauce · « **Reply #16 on:** July 22, 2007, 03:49:22 PM »

Gonzaga should win this one...Randy has never done well with guys that can wrestle and grapple.

But Randys looks strong with that Growth he's running...so he might shock us again.

americanbulldog · « **Reply #17 on:** July 22, 2007, 11:47:59 PM »

Quote from: BDsauce on July 22, 2007, 03:49:22 PM

Gonzaga should win this one...Randy has never done well with guys that can wrestle and grapple.

But Randys looks strong with that Growth he's running...so he might shock us again.

People can argue that Randy did well with Jacare in the PSL, but he had 30 lbs on Jacare, and wasn't on his back. Against Napao, he may well be on his back, a place he didn't fare well with against Ricco and Josh. I hope Randy wins, but I wouldn't bet on him or against him.

Geo · « **Reply #18 on:** July 23, 2007, 03:36:24 PM »

Couture's a workhorse and gas's Gonzaga out sometime late in the 2nd.

pitwarrior · « **Reply #19 on:** July 26, 2007, 12:07:00 PM »

i think randy will try to box napao and keep him going backwards maybe some low kicks here and there and if a clinch happens i think he'll go for some dirty boxing and maybe a takedown and some ground and pound and if he feels napao coming back he'll back off and box again..
now for napao i think he'll come in with alot of confidence and looking to throw bombs with hands or feet and he'll probaly get a takedown if that happens randy will have to go for a quick submission or defensive strikes because if napao starts dropping hammers randy will get worn down and then opens the chance for a submission. but i think randy will try to wear down napao but liek people have said napao is a worldclass jiu-jitsu expert and he can throw knockout strikes and randy can box but he isn't throwing the anvils that napao has.
i love the way capt. america has shocked the world.
my pick is napao by either submission or tko
but capt. america could shock the world again. if that happens ufs needs to get the Cyborg Fedor
since Fedor is the King of MMA and square randy against Fedor... that would be a money maker

hazbin · « **Reply #20 on:** July 28, 2007, 03:28:57 AM »

Randy is one of my favorite fighters, but i think he might get hurt bad here.

Faust · « **Reply #21 on:** July 29, 2007, 02:41:58 AM »

Randy will work his ass off to grind out a decision victory, but i think gonzaga will take this if he doesn't gas.

I'd love to see Randy drop a class and fight page.
But this will probably be a career-ender. GH is expensive these days

coltrane · « **Reply #22 on:** July 31, 2007, 08:10:00 AM »

Quote from: Geo on July 23, 2007, 03:36:24 PM

Couture's a workhorse and gas's Gonzaga out sometime late in the 2nd.

have to agree with this.....i see randy having some sort of master game plan for this one.

Geo · « **Reply #23 on:** August 23, 2007, 11:39:18 PM »

Quote from: Geo on July 23, 2007, 03:36:24 PM

Couture's a workhorse and gas's Gonzaga out sometime late in the 2nd.

one month later (thursday before the fight)

after further review I've changed my mind,I see Gonzaga submitting couture,I just watched Couture/Silvia again and realized Silvia fought like a 280lb pile of shit that night

Truman · « **Reply #24 on:** August 24, 2007, 04:26:50 AM »

Never bet against Randy.