Author Topic: Congratulations to the true 1980 Mr. Olympia winner Mike Mentzer! (Read 90264 times)

Figo · « **Reply #100 on:** June 07, 2012, 02:07:03 AM »

Quote from: SomeKindofMonster on June 06, 2012, 11:06:46 PM

Any version of Arnold 71-75 would have taken
the 1980 Olympia easy but Dickerson was the best
bodybuilder that day. He really had one weakness which was
biceps. He was denser than Arnold that day. He had probably
the best capped delts of anyone. 1st or 2nd best back. 2nd best legs
next to platz. He had muscle maturity that doesn't come across in pictures.
I could give it to Arnold until I watch the videos and I can't get past his
legs. Maybe his upper body was 80% but his legs were less.
None the less Arnold would have well over 10 Olympias had he kept on competing after
1975.

Dickerson was the most complete and conditioned. Great poser too dickerson could've won 80 and 81. In 82 he was past his best

Donny · « **Reply #101 on:** June 07, 2012, 02:14:37 AM »

Quote from: Figo on June 07, 2012, 02:07:03 AM

Dickerson was the most complete and conditioned. Great poser too dickerson could've won 80 and 81. In 82 he was past his best

I agree with you. The amount of people who look at Arnolds name and say straight away..Arnold will win because he is Arnold. As for Mike Mentzer i think if i was him i would have just belted Arnold in the mouth for being the cocky, arrogant bastard he is.

wes · « **Reply #102 on:** June 07, 2012, 02:25:02 AM »

Quote from: Thespritz0 on June 06, 2012, 10:27:43 AM

Very interesting but SCHTOOPID..... (Artie Johnson on Laugh In playing the German Soldier)

I`m probably the only one here who remembers that besides Basile.........sadly enough.

Vince B · « **Reply #103 on:** June 07, 2012, 03:13:26 AM »

Laugh In was funny when it started then it ran out of original ideas. Much like Getbiggers who post here.

Jaime · « **Reply #104 on:** June 07, 2012, 04:40:10 AM »

Dickersons back is destroying Arnolds in that picture. He was the most complete and as said Zane looked very polished.

Arnold had no legs, no back and his upperbody was 85% of his best.

I'm sure ND thinks this contest is legit though and will come up with some bullshit as to why the schmoe judges were correct, oh wait, it's not about Dorian so he doesn't give a shit.

Donny · « **Reply #105 on:** June 07, 2012, 05:01:14 AM »

Arnold was Weiders little Boy

oldtimer1 · « **Reply #106 on:** June 07, 2012, 06:31:12 AM »

Quote from: wes on June 07, 2012, 02:25:02 AM

I`m probably the only one here who remembers that besides Basile.........sadly enough.

I remember too. Wes, did moses really have that long beard?

Figo · « **Reply #107 on:** June 07, 2012, 06:38:15 AM »

Quote from: oldtimer1 on June 07, 2012, 06:31:12 AM

I remember too. Wes, did moses really have that long beard?

Wes babysat Moses

kimo · « **Reply #108 on:** June 07, 2012, 06:51:01 AM »

arnold calves were great his thigs were down . his presentation was strange too . he didnt care much about grooming himself properly . hi hair are all wet . was not like that in past olympias .. but no matter .. i guess.

Dr.Mabuse · « **Reply #109 on:** June 07, 2012, 06:59:04 AM »

Quote from: Figo on June 07, 2012, 02:01:13 AM

When arnold went to sidney to do his supposed 6 week prep( when in actual fact he'd been training for conan in spain and LA for 6 months, while delays in production were ironed out), he already had the role.

Unfortunately I can't find the source of what I wrote any more, but thanks for the info.

I wonder why Arnold let his condition go so much after the Olympia? I mean, he was pretty big (and soft) in Conan...

gracie bjj · « **Reply #110 on:** June 07, 2012, 06:59:12 AM »

Quote from: ARNIE1947 on June 06, 2012, 11:37:50 AM

.

all those pics bring me back, great stuff

hench · « **Reply #111 on:** June 07, 2012, 11:14:05 AM »

that look was required for conan, for the next film the director wanted more. His physique has depended on the movie role ever since retiring from competition.

Quote from: Dr.Mabuse on June 07, 2012, 06:59:04 AM

Unfortunately I can't find the source of what I wrote any more, but thanks for the info.

I wonder why Arnold let his condition go so much after the Olympia? I mean, he was pretty big (and soft) in Conan...

Mr Anabolic · « **Reply #112 on:** June 07, 2012, 11:26:47 AM »

Quote from: Jaime on June 07, 2012, 04:40:10 AM

Dickersons back is destroying Arnolds in that picture. He was the most complete and as said Zane looked very polished.

Arnold had no legs, no back and his upperbody was 85% of his best.

To say that Chris' back is "destroying" Arnold's is exaggerating just a little bit.

Dickerson had no size on his legs either. His main flaw was his asymmetric structure and of course... his elbows

Jaime · « **Reply #113 on:** June 07, 2012, 11:41:45 AM »

Quote from: Mr Anabolic on June 07, 2012, 11:26:47 AM

To say that Chris' back is "destroying" Arnold's is exaggerating just a little bit.

Dickerson had no size on his legs either. His main flaw was his asymmetric structure and of course... his elbows

It looks a lot thicker to me. I wasn't ever a big fan of Chris's physique but he was pretty complete here, i thought Zane should have won it.

Arnold needed to carry more size to offset his wide waist.

Oh yes and i would not hit Chris, elbows too pointy.

Croatian · « **Reply #114 on:** June 07, 2012, 02:59:28 PM »

VINCE BASILE:
So along comes the Mr Olympia in 1980 where it was wide open and just about everyone showed up to try to win. There was Frank Zane returning to win a third straight title.
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NO VINCE, FRANK ZANE WAS RETURNING TO WIN A 4th STRAIGHT TITLE !
FRANK ZANE WAS IFBB MR.OLYMPIA 1977-78-79

Croatian · « **Reply #115 on:** June 07, 2012, 03:15:24 PM »

Quote from: Vince Basile on July 29, 2007, 12:30:12 AM

The 80 Olympia should have resulted in a revamped judging system.

Okay, follow what happened. Three rounds where each competitor is scored out of 20. First guy comes out and looks fabulous so you score him 20. The next guy looks as good. Give him 20 as well. The 3rd guy wasn't as good as the first 2 so you give him 19. Then the 4th guy looks better than any of the previous guys what do you score him? Well, the same 20.

What should happen is after the first competitor you collect scores and then award the competitor 15 and have room for better competitors.

Sure Arnold was a bit small on his thighs. The rest of him was as good as his 75 shape. Nowhere near as good as 73. However, the other guys weren't anywhere near as big as Arnold. Well, except for Danny Padilla who was short and no one bothered to rate him high.

After the show we had a meeting at my gym where the fans and bodybuilders were really upset. We formed a new organization after that and Paul Graham continued to run his IFBB shows. In 1982 John Terilli won our show and we sent him to NABBA where he won his class in the Mr Universe and lost the overall to John Brown who apparently outposed him.

We evolved a judging process that took care of two requirements. First, to fairly separate the bodybuilders and second, to make sure no one was overlooked. We had the men stand in a line where they were introduced to the audience. Even at the judging. The open competitors were first because why should they have to wait until all the juniors, etc., did their thing? We did the front, side, back, side, front standing lineup. Then competitors left the stage and came back individually to pose. Judges took down the numbers of those who impressed so that they could be compared later. After the posing everyone was brought back in a lineup and then groups were brought out to be compared. This process continued until every judge was happy he could place the top guys. At this point the judging process was completed and the supervisor tallied the scores and then printed out the results that were distributed after the final placings were announced. Every score of every judge was on that printout. The supervisor might announce the closeness of the contest so that the audience would appreciate what happened during the judging. We never received any complaints about the judging.

Well Vince, regarding to my memory that new organization was UBBA & Billy Knight was the 1st UBBA Mr.Australia, John Terilli was Mr.Australasia 1982 .In 1988 UBBA* become NABBA Australia.

*United Bodybuilders of Australia !.

oldtimer1 · « **Reply #116 on:** June 07, 2012, 05:19:21 PM »

I'll say this about Zane during the 1980 Olympia. I think that was the most ripped he ever was. He just looked like he was under 190lbs. Chris Dickerson was also ripped and hard.

arce1988 · « **Reply #117 on:** June 07, 2012, 11:51:12 PM »

wide waist and four abs

Donny · « **Reply #118 on:** June 08, 2012, 12:48:02 AM »

Quote from: hench on June 07, 2012, 11:14:05 AM

that look was required for conan, for the next film the director wanted more. His physique has depended on the movie role ever since retiring from competition.

lets face it in Conan the Director had to go optic with Arnold for the role...his Acting is shit and his English too.

Figo · « **Reply #119 on:** June 08, 2012, 02:36:08 AM »

Before the accident, Zane was on course for this condition, plus 5-10lbs

Let's not forget he spent weeks in hospital, and was critical at one stage, all this just before the olympia

Does anyone really think arnold would've beaten this? Post 76, Zane changed the rules of the game, not enough to have 4 visible abs complemented by huge arms and pecs
Conditioning!
Which is why arnold was small, not because of the lie of training 6 weeks only, because he overdieted, was scared that if the real zane showed up, no 7th mr O

gracie bjj · « **Reply #120 on:** June 08, 2012, 04:20:33 AM »

i always thought robby should have gotten at least one sandow back in the late 70,s.

Figo · « **Reply #121 on:** June 08, 2012, 05:10:27 AM »

Quote from: gracie bjj on June 08, 2012, 04:20:33 AM

i always thought robby should have gotten at least one sandow back in the late 70,s.

In the build-up to 77 everyone thought he just had to show up, himself included

Zane spoiled the party

Pet shop boys · « **Reply #122 on:** June 08, 2012, 05:21:50 AM »

Quote from: Dr.Mabuse on June 06, 2012, 04:58:24 PM

I recall reading somewhere that Dino De Laurentiis told Arnold, that if he wanted the Conan role, he needed to win the Olympia...

If true, it certainly would have added another twist to this contest from Arnold's point of view (not just putting Mentzer and Zane in their place.)

Imagine if he had not won?

When Arnold got on board for the Conan project, he was introduced as a "Mr.Universe winner" nobody knew (and still Don't know) what a Mr.Olympia is .

WOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Donny · « **Reply #123 on:** June 08, 2012, 07:01:41 AM »

Frank zane was a 100x better than the Fat Oak with his overdeveloped breasts and thick waist. I have never liked the way his physique at all. Was it not Vince Gironda that called him a fat fuck?..

Figo · « **Reply #124 on:** June 08, 2012, 07:10:27 AM »

Quote from: Donny on June 08, 2012, 07:01:41 AM

Frank zane was a 100x better than the Fat Oak with his overdeveloped breasts and thick waist. I have never liked the way his physique at all. Was it not Vince Gironda that called him a fat fuck?..

I'm a Zane fan, but I do realize there would be no bbing without arnold

The man created 9/10 of weiders wealth

Still, to this day, covers and articles, whole issues devoted to him, when sales slump