O, Canada! More Americans Heading North

[OzmO]

http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3433005&page=1

Hmm,  could it be the lower crimes rates?   The universal health care?  The band Loverboy?


I think it's the beer!

[Dos Equis]

It sure ain't for tax purposes. 

[Hedgehog]

Canada's economy will continue to grow with the enormous oil wealth potential they got. Potentially one of the richest nations in the world in 10 years.

[pumpster]

Canada's economy has been growing thanks to a number of natural resources, only one of which is oil. Plus the country's matured in the last 15-20 years and has one of the most modern infrastructures now as a result of it.

That and the fact that the more moderate Canadian approaches are more appealing given the politics and economy in the US for the last while.

[OzmO]

Canada's economy has been growing thanks to a number of natural resources, only one of which is oil. Plus the country's matured in the last 15-20 years and has one of the most modern infrastructures now as a result of it.

That and the fact that the more moderate Canadian approaches are more appealing given the politics and economy in the US for the last while.

You mean Canada isn't full of idealistic imperialist?   

[Hedgehog]

I just have to look at our brotherland in the West, Norway, to see a similar situation.

Sweden's always been ahead economically.

But Norway's got some of the biggest oil resources in the world, and all of it state owned, so a big part of the income from all that oil has been put into enormous "oil funds", that are supposed to be used "sometime in the future".

And the Norwegian people is very wealthy, they rank among the wealthiest nations in the world in fact.

25 years ago... totally different story.

That oil sure meant the world for them.

[GonnaRuckYou]

Don't know why any of us Americans would head to Canada. Canada...the fuck...maybe somewhere in Europe but Canada? Whatever.

[Hedgehog]

Don't know why any of us Americans would head to Canada. Canada...the fuck...maybe somewhere in Europe but Canada? Whatever.

The only thing that sucks with Canada compared to USA, is the weather.

I couldn't stand living in Canada, if the alternative is to live in a warm nice Cali weather.

Although, the nature up there is supposed to be crazy beautiful.

[24KT]

http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3433005&page=1

Hmm,  could it be the lower crimes rates?   The universal health care?  The band Loverboy?


I think it's the beer!

psst - you forgot about all the beautiful, funny, intelligent, gorgeous, hot, charming women.
(Not that American women aren't all of these things too)
Deedee, xxxLinda, OS... can I get a amen?!

It sure ain't for tax purposes. 

That's fer darn sure... and the weather sucks in the winter, ...but it's a trade off.
The good far outweighs the bad, and on a day like today... winter is looking mighty pleasant.   


O, Canada! More Americans Heading North
The Number of Americans Moving to Canada in 2006 Hit a 30-Year High
By MARCUS BARAM
July 31, 2007 —

Blame Canada!

It may seem like a quiet country where not much happens besides ice hockey, curling and beer drinking. But our neighbor to the north is proving to be quite the draw for thousands of disgruntled Americans.

The number of U.S. citizens who moved to Canada last year hit a 30-year high, with a 20 percent increase over the previous year and almost double the number who moved in 2000.

In 2006, 10,942 Americans went to Canada, compared with 9,262 in 2005 and 5,828 in 2000, according to a survey by the Association for Canadian Studies.

Of course, those numbers are still outweighed by the number of Canadians going the other way. Yet, that imbalance is shrinking. Last year, 23,913 Canadians moved to the United States, a significant decrease from 29,930 in 2005.

"There has been a definite increase in the past five years  the number hasn't exceeded 10,000 since 1977," says Jack Jedwab, the association's executive director. "During the mid-70s, Canada admitted between 22,000 and 26,000 Americans a year, most of whom were draft dodgers from the Vietnam War."

The current increase appears to be fueled largely by social and political reasons, says Jedwab, based on anecdotal evidence.

"Those who are coming have the highest level of education  these aren't people who can't get a job in the states," he says. "They're coming because many of them don't like the politics, the Iraq War and the security situation in the U.S. By comparison, Canada is a tension-free place. People feel safer."

One recent immigrant is Tom Kertes, a 34-year-old labor organizer who moved from Seattle to Toronto in April.

Kertes attributes his motivation to President Bush's opposition to gay marriage, and the tactics employed during the war on terror since 9/11.

"I wanted a country that respected my human rights and the rights of others," he says. "We joked about it after Bush won re-election, but it took us a while to go through the application."

Kertes, who moved with his partner, is happy in his new home. "Canada is a really nice country. My mother is thinking about it. My stepfather has diabetes and has health issues. So, he'd be taken care of for free if he moved up here."

Not that Kertes doesn't get homesick every once in a while. "I have no intention of giving up my citizenship. I have an American flag at home on the wall  I didn't have that in Seattle. All of a sudden, I'm a nationalist. On the Fourth of July, I really missed being home."

Jo Davenport, who wrote "The Canadian Way," moved from Atlanta to Nova Scotia in December 2001. She also cites political reasons for her move, saying that she disagreed with the Bush administration's decisions after 9/11.

"Things are totally different here because they care about their people here," she says, explaining that she's only been back home once or twice.




{giggle} Now OzmO, ...you had to know I would copy & paste it for everyone whose computer might not let them click through to the link. I'm considerate that way.

[Hedgehog]

psst - you forgot about all the beautiful, funny, intelligent, gorgeous, hot, charming women.
(Not that American women aren't all of these things too)
Deedee, xxxLinda, OS... can I get a amen?!

That's fer darn sure... and the weather sucks in the winter, ...but it's a trade off.
The good far outweighs the bad, and on a day like today... winter is looking mighty pleasant.   


O, Canada! More Americans Heading North
The Number of Americans Moving to Canada in 2006 Hit a 30-Year High
By MARCUS BARAM
July 31, 2007 —

Blame Canada!

It may seem like a quiet country where not much happens besides ice hockey, curling and beer drinking. But our neighbor to the north is proving to be quite the draw for thousands of disgruntled Americans.

The number of U.S. citizens who moved to Canada last year hit a 30-year high, with a 20 percent increase over the previous year and almost double the number who moved in 2000.

In 2006, 10,942 Americans went to Canada, compared with 9,262 in 2005 and 5,828 in 2000, according to a survey by the Association for Canadian Studies.

Of course, those numbers are still outweighed by the number of Canadians going the other way. Yet, that imbalance is shrinking. Last year, 23,913 Canadians moved to the United States, a significant decrease from 29,930 in 2005.

"There has been a definite increase in the past five years  the number hasn't exceeded 10,000 since 1977," says Jack Jedwab, the association's executive director. "During the mid-70s, Canada admitted between 22,000 and 26,000 Americans a year, most of whom were draft dodgers from the Vietnam War."

The current increase appears to be fueled largely by social and political reasons, says Jedwab, based on anecdotal evidence.

"Those who are coming have the highest level of education  these aren't people who can't get a job in the states," he says. "They're coming because many of them don't like the politics, the Iraq War and the security situation in the U.S. By comparison, Canada is a tension-free place. People feel safer."

One recent immigrant is Tom Kertes, a 34-year-old labor organizer who moved from Seattle to Toronto in April.

Kertes attributes his motivation to President Bush's opposition to gay marriage, and the tactics employed during the war on terror since 9/11.

"I wanted a country that respected my human rights and the rights of others," he says. "We joked about it after Bush won re-election, but it took us a while to go through the application."

Kertes, who moved with his partner, is happy in his new home. "Canada is a really nice country. My mother is thinking about it. My stepfather has diabetes and has health issues. So, he'd be taken care of for free if he moved up here."

Not that Kertes doesn't get homesick every once in a while. "I have no intention of giving up my citizenship. I have an American flag at home on the wall  I didn't have that in Seattle. All of a sudden, I'm a nationalist. On the Fourth of July, I really missed being home."

Jo Davenport, who wrote "The Canadian Way," moved from Atlanta to Nova Scotia in December 2001. She also cites political reasons for her move, saying that she disagreed with the Bush administration's decisions after 9/11.

"Things are totally different here because they care about their people here," she says, explaining that she's only been back home once or twice.



ps - {giggle} Now OzmO, ...you had to know I would copy & paste it for everyone who might be too lazy to click the link. I'm considerate that way.

jag, you're an absolute cnut.

And I'll tell you why.

Your shit is doing nothing but stirring up tension between Canadians and Americans.

Your kind is so predictable too. You always support whoever is anti-American. No matter how fcuked up that individual, nation or organisation is.

Your shit is old, and a disaster to every intellectual conversation.

How about trying to evaluate each and every situation instead of being your old usual hateful self?

Your shit only hurt those who tries to make a serious argument against Bush or against certain events in the US administration.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

[24KT]

The only thing that sucks with Canada compared to USA, is the weather.

I couldn't stand living in Canada, if the alternative is to live in a warm nice Cali weather.

Although, the nature up there is supposed to be crazy beautiful.

Oh Hedge, you have noooo idea. CRAZY BEAUTIFUL!!!! I was at a truck show out in Fergus this weekend, it wasn't that far removed from the city, but the country-side was soooo beautiful, ...and if you ever get a chance to go out near where OS is... you'd fall in love. A train ride across Canada is some of the prettiest country you ever laid eyes on. The Muskokas are amazing!!! totally amazing! When Kurt Russell was up here shooting, there was some footage that needed to be shot in the Muskokas, ...next thing you know, him and Goldie bought a summer home up there. And if you ever google some shot of Banff, or the Laurentians...


You will fall in love. One of my personally sponsored distributors from the Netherlands just recently flew out here with his wife, and 2 small children. They stayed for a couple months, and they rented a large motor coach, and for 4 weeks, just drove all over the place exploring Toronto, as well as the rest of the country (they got extremely good mileage too, ..but that was to be expected afterall.   )

To make a long story short... he's now exploring his immigration options to permanently move to Canada.

He'll have no trouble either. He's fluent in Dutch, German, French, English, Spanish & Hebrew.
...and if he doesn't want to rely on his network marketing income to assure the government he won't be a burden on the social infrastructure, he's also well educated with advanced degrees, and will have no problem being competitively employable in the IT industry. Infact, he's already checked into job openings that his current employer might have in Canada, so he can simply do a job transfer within the company.

[24KT]

Darn it hedgehog, ...you quoted me before I changed the last phrase.


I was just trying to let people know what OzmO was talking about,
...remember when Deedee was having trouble clicking links cause she was on a work computer?

ps - I'll have you know, that I was on a conference call the other night, with a bunch of Americans who were complaining about America, ...and guess what... I never said a word.    really... of course I bit my lip till I was close to drawing blood, ...but I never said a word.  You would have been proud of me.

[24KT]

jag, you're an absolute cnut.

Wow, ...someone as politically correct as myself might consider that comment to be mighty sexist.
...and conduct not very worthy of a moderator

And I'll tell you why.

Your shit is doing nothing but stirring up tension between Canadians and Americans.

Your kind is so predictable too. You always support whoever is anti-American. No matter how fcuked up that individual, nation or organisation is.

Are you trying to tell me that OzmO didn't know he would draw me to this thread. Oh puleaze!
How could I deny him my presence here, when he went to so much work?

Your shit is old, and a disaster to every intellectual conversation.

How about trying to evaluate each and every situation instead of being your old usual hateful self?

Your shit only hurt those who tries to make a serious argument against Bush or against certain events in the US administration.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

Ahem, ...I'd like to point out, ...I didn't start this thread. Please take a chill pill. Thank You. 

[drkaje]

Who in the fcuk would move to Canada?!?!?!!?!? It's cold, damn near a socialist country and the people even talk funny.

It would take me about three seconds to tire of hearing "aboot", "hoose" and "Kraft dinner", LOL! Honestly...... I'm still tired from the last time hearing them.

I have seen a few smoking hot Canadian girls who could probably keep me warm during the winter. But, there are pretty girls all over the place so that's really not an issue.

[bmacsys]

jag, you're an absolute cnut.

And I'll tell you why.

Your shit is doing nothing but stirring up tension between Canadians and Americans.

Your kind is so predictable too. You always support whoever is anti-American. No matter how fcuked up that individual, nation or organisation is.

Your shit is old, and a disaster to every intellectual conversation.

How about trying to evaluate each and every situation instead of being your old usual hateful self?

Your shit only hurt those who tries to make a serious argument against Bush or against certain events in the US administration.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

Jag is a troll and a spammer. Plain and simple. Cut and dried.

[24KT]

Who in the fcuk would move to Canada?!?!?!!?!? It's cold,

not today it ain't. We're under an extreme heat alert, with the city opening up cooling stations for all the homeless or those who don't have air conditioning to come in from the heat, ...and all the city pools are being kept open til midnight.

damn near a socialist country

 

and the people even talk funny.

{giggle}  You ever been to West Texas?    

It would take me about three seconds to tire of hearing "aboot", "hoose" and "Kraft dinner", LOL! Honestly...... I'm still tired from the last time hearing them.

    WTF!? three seconds? Dude you're slow. My brain starts bleeding after 2 seconds of the Canuck accent.  

I have seen a few smoking hot Canadian girls who could probably keep me warm during the winter. But, there are pretty girls all over the place so that's really not an issue.

Oh Jakey... never one to be led around by his little head. One day you just might meet your match,
...and she'll lead you around like a bull with a ring through his nose, ...and you'll swoon, and start quoting poetry,
...and you'll love every minute of it. ...And Toxie will laugh his butt off!  

[24KT]

Jag is a troll and a spammer. Plain and simple. Cut and dried.

Gee thanks.   

[Ozark]

Blame Canada!

It may seem like a quiet country where not much happens besides ice hockey, curling and beer drinking. But our neighbor to the north is proving to be quite the draw for thousands of disgruntled Americans.
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The number of U.S. citizens who moved to Canada last year hit a 30-year high, with a 20 percent increase over the previous year and almost double the number who moved in 2000.

In 2006, 10,942 Americans went to Canada, compared with 9,262 in 2005 and 5,828 in 2000, according to a survey by the Association for Canadian Studies.

Of course, those numbers are still outweighed by the number of Canadians going the other way. Yet, that imbalance is shrinking. Last year, 23,913 Canadians moved to the United States, a significant decrease from 29,930 in 2005.             

"There has been a definite increase in the past five years — the number hasn't exceeded 10,000 since 1977," says Jack Jedwab, the association's executive director. "During the mid-70s, Canada admitted between 22,000 and 26,000 Americans a year, most of whom were draft dodgers from the Vietnam War."

The current increase appears to be fueled largely by social and political reasons, says Jedwab, based on anecdotal evidence.

"Those who are coming have the highest level of education — these aren't people who can't get a job in the states," he says. "They're coming because many of them don't like the politics, the Iraq War and the security situation in the U.S. By comparison, Canada is a tension-free place. People feel safer."

One recent immigrant is Tom Kertes, a 34-year-old labor organizer who moved from Seattle to Toronto in April.

Kertes attributes his motivation to President Bush's opposition to gay marriage, and the tactics employed during the war on terror since 9/11.

[drkaje]

Oh Jakey... never one to be led around by his little head. One day you just might meet your match,
...and she'll lead you around like a bull with a ring through his nose, ...and you'll swoon, and start quoting poetry,
...and you'll love every minute of it. ...And Toxie will laugh his butt off!  

Judi,

Please consider this an intervention: Stop doing drugs.

[pumpster]

The only thing that sucks with Canada compared to USA, is the weather.

I couldn't stand living in Canada, if the alternative is to live in a warm nice Cali weather.

I'm from Canada; my friend there was just telling me a couple of days ago how sick she is of a maximum of about 4 months of nice weather followed by winter. Weather's something like that in northeastern US cities. The other thing is that Canadians are generally nice but not warm people, a little stiff & smug thanks to easy living yuppy lifestyles & british/french slight hints of stuffiness. Something like being in New England, not quite as severe as Connecticut.

So it's a trade-off; they've been sailing along without a recession & many jobs for many years now while we're under the leadership of idiots in the states, but the weather sucks and there's that typical Canadian aloofness, especially in places with a lot of english descends, like Toronto.

The best places to live would probably be British Columbia because the weather's not as severe and because they have more in common with the states than with the rest of Canada, and Montreal. The problem with Montreal is that besides brutal winters, the city was robbed of it's place as the dominant city in Canada decades ago because of the separatist crap that's led to the relocation of many corporate head offices to Toronto. So there aren't great job opportunities in Montreal relative to Toronto, especially without speaking French. Years of commodity-based growth has resulted in Toronto becoming one of the most modern metropolises on the continent, but is kinda boring despite the size - something like the banality of living in Minneapolis or Boston.

I could never live there, then again i could never live in a lot of American cities either and would choose Toronto over many of them in the cold weather areas.

[dizzleman06]

jag, you're an absolute cnut.

And I'll tell you why.

Your shit is doing nothing but stirring up tension between Canadians and Americans.

Your kind is so predictable too. You always support whoever is anti-American. No matter how fcuked up that individual, nation or organisation is.

Your shit is old, and a disaster to every intellectual conversation.

How about trying to evaluate each and every situation instead of being your old usual hateful self?

Your shit only hurt those who tries to make a serious argument against Bush or against certain events in the US administration.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

agreed...

[OzmO]

I've never been to Canada in the winter...always the summer.   

But I've never met a Canadian i didn't like.

Vancouver was awesome, Toronto good to.

 


But instead of focusing on Jag.  Perhaps we can discuss why they are moving without turning it into a insult war.

[GonnaRuckYou]

Tell you why I wouldnt move. I'm from Sacramento. Hour and a half west of me is San Francisco and awesome NorCal shoreline. Hour and half east of me a Lake Tahoe.

EDIT: And I dont like Canada in the first place. I'd rather move to Sweden and rake in the blonde bitches.

[OzmO]

Tell you why I wouldnt move. I'm from Sacramento. Hour and a half west of me is San Francisco and awesome NorCal shoreline. Hour and half east of me a Lake Tahoe.

EDIT: And I dont like Canada in the first place. I'd rather move to Sweden and rake in the blonde bitches.

I got some things for you:

-  Nasty dry dusty and very hot summers

-  Congested 50 Tahoe and Reno 80 everyday and on weekends sometimes

-  Too many freaking people

-  One of the highest crime rates in America.

Sacramento used to be nice about 20 years ago.   


I'm not saying you should move to Canada.  But Sacramento is not a very cool place.

[GonnaRuckYou]

I got some things for you:

-  Nasty dry dusty and very hot summers

-  Congested 50 Tahoe and Reno 80 everyday and on weekends sometimes

-  Too many freaking people

-  One of the highest crime rates in America.

Sacramento used to be nice about 20 years ago.   


I'm not saying you should move to Canada.  But Sacramento is not a very cool place.

You left out one very important thing about Sacto. THERE AINT SHIT TO DO HERE. Thats why I said hour or so (if you avg. 85mph) you got SF and hour half/2 hrs you got Tahoe. Really the only fun thing here in Sactown is Sac State where I go. And to get there I take the fucking 50 in the morning but before that I have to cross down Sunrise Blvd the most congested fucking Blvd in all of CA no doubt. Lucky for me Rugby practice at 4-8PM ensures I have no traffic on the way back. And the 80 is always fucked no matter the time or where you're going. But I dont mind that shit, its a nice place to live.

BTW we got hundred+ degree weather and I dont have a fucking AC in my car bahahaha So I drive with my windows down and my whole left side gets tanned...like negro dark and my right side is never able to match it no matter how long Im out in the sun. I got a fucked up tan all spring and summer.