Getbig Debate....

[dizzleman06]

Who here believes that a woman president would negatively effect our foreign relations, and who doesn't believe this?

[dizzleman06]

I think that it would hamper our efforts with countries that treat there women like second class citizens...IMO.  I also think that Al Queda/Taliban would see this as a weakness and try to take advantage of that.

[OzmO]

Who here believes that a woman president would negatively effect our foreign relations, and who doesn't believe this?

It didn't have any noticeable effect with Great Britain.

[dizzleman06]

It didn't have any noticeable effect with Great Britain.

so you believe that if would have no noticeable effect in with us in our current situation?

[OzmO]

so you believe that if would have no noticeable effect in with us in our current situation?

Our current situation is pathetic in term of diplomatic relations.  So it can only change for the better IMO.

[Dos Equis]

It didn't have any noticeable effect with Great Britain.

Agree.  I don't think it would have any noticeable adverse effect.  We are the biggest, baddest kid on the block.  Our president, male or female, will always be a powerful presence.

[dizzleman06]

Our current situation is pathetic in term of diplomatic relations.  So it can only change for the better IMO.

it can always be worse...  

[Al Doggity]

it can always be worse... 

yeah... theoretically. In practice, we've sunk about as low as possible.

George Bush is not a politician and he went into office bragging about his lack of any real foreign policy agenda.   

As has already been pointed out, there have been other female heads. There has always been anti-American sentiment from certain quarters, but even with a
woman in office, these fucks will stay in line.

Besides, Hilary is the manliest democrat running  this cycle.

[dizzleman06]

yeah... theoretically. In practice, we've sunk about as low as possible.

George Bush is not a politician and he went into office bragging about his lack of any real foreign policy agenda.   

As has already been pointed out, there have been other female heads. There has always been anti-American sentiment from certain quarters, but even with a
woman in office, these fucks will stay in line.

Besides, Hilary is the manliest democrat running  this cycle.

Undeniable TRUTH!

[Hugo Chavez]

Who here believes that a woman president would negatively effect our foreign relations, and who doesn't believe this?

negatively effect our foreign relations?  No freaking way... Dumbest suggestion ever...  Especially in light of our current numbnut in office..

[dizzleman06]

negatively effect our foreign relations?  No freaking way... Dumbest suggestion ever...  Especially in light of our current numbnut in office..

slow down there tonto...it wasn't a suggestion.  it was a debatable question...follow along now.

[Hedgehog]

Who here believes that a woman president would negatively effect our foreign relations, and who doesn't believe this?

I look at England (Thatcher) and Germany (Merkel), and from what I've gather, these two countries weren't effected negatively by having a female at their highest political position.

Of course, lots can be said about Thatcher and Merkel, but neither has ever been accused of that their gender impacted their countries negatively.

IMO, a female at the most powerful position in the world would be very good. It would send a signal to women all over the world to raise their game, among other things.

But the question still remains: Is Hillary Clinton good enough for the office? I would never want a president because she is woman, but rather I would welcome the fact if the best candidate for the job was in fact woman. Big difference IMO.

[dizzleman06]

I look at England (Thatcher) and Germany (Merkel), and from what I've gather, these two countries weren't effected negatively by having a female at their highest political position.

Of course, lots can be said about Thatcher and Merkel, but neither has ever been accused of that their gender impacted their countries negatively.

IMO, a female at the most powerful position in the world would be very good. It would send a signal to women all over the world to raise their game, among other things.

But the question still remains: Is Hillary Clinton good enough for the office? I would never want a president because she is woman, but rather I would welcome the fact if the best candidate for the job was in fact woman. Big difference IMO.

agreed!

[24KT]

I look at England (Thatcher) and Germany (Merkel), and from what I've gather, these two countries weren't effected negatively by having a female at their highest political position.

To posit a female president would undermine American authority in the eyes of those countries that treat women as second class citizens is baseless. Pakistan (a Muslim country) has already had a head of state, ...and the PLO sure got a wake up call when a woman headed up Israel's response to their terrorism in the 72 Olympics.

ps - A female Prime Minister was very good for Canada. 

[Al Doggity]

This is a pretty interesting race.

We've got the first serious female and black contenders, which everyone always notes. However, if Giulianni wins, he'll be the first Italian president and only the second Catholic. If Romney is elected, he'll be the first president not to belong to a mainstream Christian religion and if Bloomberg wins, he'll be the first Jew and the first independent president.

[24KT]

This is a pretty interesting race.

We've got the first serious female and black contenders, which everyone always notes. However, if Giulianni wins, he'll be the first Italian president and only the second Catholic. If Romney is elected, he'll be the first president not to belong to a mainstream Christian religion and if Bloomberg wins, he'll be the first Jew and the first independent president.

America is on the brink of many firsts... A glorious time in her history...
...or a tragic error compounded by more. Whether she make's it a brighter day, we'll see...

[Hugo Chavez]

This is a pretty interesting race.

We've got the first serious female and black contenders, which everyone always notes. However, if Giulianni wins, he'll be the first Italian president and only the second Catholic. If Romney is elected, he'll be the first president not to belong to a mainstream Christian religion and if Bloomberg wins, he'll be the first Jew and the first independent president.

It will be a long long time before a Mormon wins.  Way to many Christians hold outright contempt and distrust of Mormons, just the facts of it.  Mormons are not electable right now.  Guiliani doesn't stand a chance, he's a Bush supporter in Drag, not exactly what will win an election right now add in Catholic and Italian and he's done.  I would have said a Jew would never stand a chance but the fact is, Evangelical Christian Zionists controlled by Zionist interests have done an outstanding job of brainwashing the nation and Lieberman has been an outright rightwing hero.  There is still a pretty big mistrust, but it's vastly diminished over the years.  With what's lined up on the right, unless Ron Paul is nominated, the next president will, in a fair election, be Hillary, but hopefully not...

[Al-Gebra]

To posit a female president would undermine American authority in the eyes of those countries that treat women as second class citizens is baseless. Pakistan (a Muslim country) has already had a head of state, ...and the PLO sure got a wake up call when a woman headed up Israel's response to their terrorism in the 72 Olympics.

ps - A female Prime Minister was very good for Canada. 

1. Every time you mention Israel I feel like a possum is gnawing on my bare foot.

2. Yeah, bhutto . . . that worked out real well for her. 

3. A teletubby could be prime minister of canada and it wouldn't matter.

[Nordic Superman]

I look at England (Thatcher) and Germany (Merkel), and from what I've gather, these two countries weren't effected negatively by having a female at their highest political position.

Of course, lots can be said about Thatcher and Merkel, but neither has ever been accused of that their gender impacted their countries negatively.

IMO, a female at the most powerful position in the world would be very good. It would send a signal to women all over the world to raise their game, among other things.

But the question still remains: Is Hillary Clinton good enough for the office? I would never want a president because she is woman, but rather I would welcome the fact if the best candidate for the job was in fact woman. Big difference IMO.

Hillary is a joke, seriously. Americans would be one-upping themselves in stupidity if they gave her the nod.

I'd be curious how meetings would be conducted in the islamic states of the middle east? No-hand shaking of females from islamic government Representatives, maybe submission in the form of clothing worn? Definitely viewed as a weakness in the eyes of the muslims.

[Camel Jockey]

Ron Paul for prez.

I also think Guliani would do a good job even though he flip flops.

[Nordic Superman]

Ron Paul for prez.

I also think Guliani would do a good job even though he flip flops.

Ron Paul gets my vote, fuck Guliani tho.

[mrt]

A RETARD OR A WOMAN ,,FUCK U GUYS CANT DO ANY WORSE!!!!!!!!!!!

[Slapper]

If Giuliani wins I'm moving to another country. The things that man says can put any John Doe in jail for years. What a fucking waste of oxygen! He is sooo despised in NY now. He did diddly shit on 09/11 and he now walks around the country as though he saved the city. If being full of shit could be measured with the Fujita scale, I'd say Giuliani is an F5.

Going back to the subject, I think a women president would not be negative in any manner. As for Hilary being a good candidate... no, she is not. She is a veeeery moderate liberal.

I will not vote for her.

[mrt]

bush clearly proves anyone can be president.

bush is retarded and he became prsident ,,,whos next rosie odanald,,,,, opera  ronald mcdonald ? your country is the butt of jokes !!!!!!!!,,and the rest of the world is laughing

[dizzleman06]

bush is retarded and he became prsident ,,,whos next rosie odanald,,,,, opera  ronald mcdonald ? your country is the butt of jokes !!!!!!!!,,and the rest of the world is laughing

Laughing is not what I am worried about.  If we continue to elect people who are a joke, I am afraid that we will be targeted...