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Re: have you ever used your muscle in a fight?
« Reply #175 on: August 17, 2007, 03:11:59 PM »
jorge far more experienced fighter than ray and that was his main advantage, more relaxed, better timing ie sees more and reacts better. ray too tight and flinching, eyes down under pressure and on strike.

kimbo - jorge would have been a better fight.

in any case, this is not street fighting. street fight would have gone to ground after initial strike and ray may have fared better there with the extra strength.



If they could have used the ground, Jorge annihilates Ray.  Jorge is too small for Kimbo.  80 lb weight disadvantage is too much.  Bluto as a cage fighter yourself, I don't see how you can disagree.  Take a trained fighter, who is athletic and in shape, they would wipe the floor with any street fighter.  It'd be like the winner of the Mr. Getbig trying to compete with Victor Martinez.  NO CONTEST. 

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Re: have you ever used your muscle in a fight?
« Reply #176 on: August 17, 2007, 03:22:15 PM »
If they could have used the ground, Jorge annihilates Ray.  Jorge is too small for Kimbo.  80 lb weight disadvantage is too much.  Bluto as a cage fighter yourself, I don't see how you can disagree.  Take a trained fighter, who is athletic and in shape, they would wipe the floor with any street fighter.  It'd be like the winner of the Mr. Getbig trying to compete with Victor Martinez.  NO CONTEST. 

They would if it was the same as sparring or in a cage but it isn't. So it would come down to how they would react to the situation. That's why a hooligan who never trained a day in his life can beat the shit outta a trained fighter.
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Re: have you ever used your muscle in a fight?
« Reply #177 on: August 17, 2007, 04:05:26 PM »
They would if it was the same as sparring or in a cage but it isn't. So it would come down to how they would react to the situation. That's why a hooligan who never trained a day in his life can beat the shit outta a trained fighter.


I guess a trained fighter can't be as savage in the street using conditions to his advantage.  All that speed, timing, balance, dexterity and plain athleticism makes no difference huh?  Don't ever get in Enson Inoue's face in the street, nor his ex brother in law Nori, or Nori's training partner Riki Fukuda for that matter. 

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Re: have you ever used your muscle in a fight?
« Reply #178 on: August 17, 2007, 04:08:48 PM »
I guess a trained fighter can't be as savage in the street using conditions to his advantage.  All that speed, timing, balance, dexterity and plain athleticism makes no difference huh?  Don't ever get in Enson Inoue's face in the street, nor his ex brother in law Nori, or Nori's training partner Riki Fukuda for that matter. 

It's better than if he was a Bowler, but not automatically better than if he was a Hockey player. Ultimately it comes down to how he handle the fear and the adrenaline rush. And people in that state tend to fall back on using a limited no of techniques.
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Re: have you ever used your muscle in a fight?
« Reply #179 on: August 17, 2007, 04:19:46 PM »
I guess a trained fighter can't be as savage in the street using conditions to his advantage.  All that speed, timing, balance, dexterity and plain athleticism makes no difference huh?  Don't ever get in Enson Inoue's face in the street, nor his ex brother in law Nori, or Nori's training partner Riki Fukuda for that matter. 
we're all terrified. ::)

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Re: have you ever used your muscle in a fight?
« Reply #180 on: August 17, 2007, 04:24:18 PM »
I guess a trained fighter can't be as savage in the street using conditions to his advantage.  All that speed, timing, balance, dexterity and plain athleticism makes no difference huh?  Don't ever get in Enson Inoue's face in the street, nor his ex brother in law Nori, or Nori's training partner Riki Fukuda for that matter. 

Serious question, why do you drop names of dozens of fighters every day? You usually use their nicknames which makes it hard for anyone to follow unless they are serious MMA fans.
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Re: have you ever used your muscle in a fight?
« Reply #181 on: August 17, 2007, 04:36:26 PM »
calm down all of you cage fighter bad asses  ::)

         Watch it SF, they are wearing tap out gear  ::)

         Blutos next ghey thread "Can a man who benches 600 pounds literally cut someones head off with a headlock and brute strength" ?

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Re: have you ever used your muscle in a fight?
« Reply #182 on: August 17, 2007, 04:38:54 PM »
calm down all of you cage fighter bad asses  ::)

         Watch it SF, they are wearing tap out gear  ::)

         Blutos next ghey thread "Can a man who benches 600 pounds literally cut someones head off with a headlock and brute strength" ?

Now that's not a bad suggestion for a thread!
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Re: have you ever used your muscle in a fight?
« Reply #183 on: August 17, 2007, 05:08:47 PM »
Serious question, why do you drop names of dozens of fighters every day? You usually use their nicknames which makes it hard for anyone to follow unless they are serious MMA fans.

Nori=Kid Yamamoto, but with Urijah Faber calling himself Kid, I thought it would be easier for folks to differentiate.  I am not dropping names, I am simply stating an opinon based upon my getting beat down by guys who are as savage outside as they are in the academy.  Bluto made a point of saying that a streefighter could beat a skilled fighter, I am saying NO. 

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Re: have you ever used your muscle in a fight?
« Reply #184 on: August 17, 2007, 05:09:44 PM »
we're all terrified. ::)

With your physique, I am sure no one will want to pick a fight with you.   ::)

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Re: have you ever used your muscle in a fight?
« Reply #185 on: August 17, 2007, 05:11:45 PM »
With your physique, I am sure no one will want to pick a fight with you.   ::)
hahahahaa, i guess i better watch my step, you are a "bulldog" after all, right? hahahaha, you must be a huge ripped beast, let's see some pictures instead of dropping names of fighters you've memorized from reading magazines. ;D

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Re: have you ever used your muscle in a fight?
« Reply #186 on: August 17, 2007, 05:14:30 PM »
hahahahaa, i guess i better watch my step, you are a "bulldog" after all, right? hahahaha, you must be a huge ripped beast, let's see some pictures instead of dropping names of fighters you've memorized from reading magazines. ;D
Why are you requesting pics of everyone since you got outed, tubby?
You are a triple-chinned fatty that knows nothing about fighting.
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Re: have you ever used your muscle in a fight?
« Reply #187 on: August 17, 2007, 06:31:19 PM »
hahahahaa, i guess i better watch my step, you are a "bulldog" after all, right? hahahaha, you must be a huge ripped beast, let's see some pictures instead of dropping names of fighters you've memorized from reading magazines. ;D

I don't need to be ego stroked by a bunch of men on a bodybuilding board.  I am simply here to express my opinions in an open forum.  You can think I drop names from a magazines all you want, I don't care, and I am not a fatty.   ;D

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Re: have you ever used your muscle in a fight?
« Reply #188 on: August 17, 2007, 06:40:50 PM »
It's better than if he was a Bowler, but not automatically better than if he was a Hockey player. Ultimately it comes down to how he handle the fear and the adrenaline rush. And people in that state tend to fall back on using a limited no of techniques.

And a guy who does it daily, has it trained into his synapses, deals with adrenal stress constantly can't do it on demand in a real but similar situation to his field of endeavor.  No logic here. 

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Re: have you ever used your muscle in a fight?
« Reply #189 on: August 17, 2007, 06:55:05 PM »
What's everyone's opinions on the use of headbutts??  I think they'd be pretty effective on an untrained drunk guy.  I haven't tried it yet though.  :D

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Re: have you ever used your muscle in a fight?
« Reply #190 on: August 17, 2007, 07:16:46 PM »
What's everyone's opinions on the use of headbutts??  I think they'd be pretty effective on an untrained drunk guy.  I haven't tried it yet though.  :D

VERY EFFECTIVE, even against a trained fighter.  Top of your head against the face. 

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Re: have you ever used your muscle in a fight?
« Reply #191 on: August 17, 2007, 09:17:23 PM »
Headbutts are a bitch! they come out of nowhere and hurt like a mofo! I got caught a few times bouncing when in close proximity.

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Re: have you ever used your muscle in a fight?
« Reply #192 on: August 17, 2007, 09:26:31 PM »
Great!  I'll remember to use headbutts if a situation arises.

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Re: have you ever used your muscle in a fight?
« Reply #193 on: August 18, 2007, 05:29:42 AM »
And a guy who does it daily, has it trained into his synapses, deals with adrenal stress constantly can't do it on demand in a real but similar situation to his field of endeavor.  No logic here. 

It's very difficult, if even possible, to emulate a situation on the street. Even Mike Tyson said he was scared as hell when he was in a street fight (and this was at the top of his career)


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Re: have you ever used your muscle in a fight?
« Reply #194 on: August 18, 2007, 05:31:13 AM »
What's everyone's opinions on the use of headbutts??  I think they'd be pretty effective on an untrained drunk guy.  I haven't tried it yet though.  :D

Not very effective.
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Re: have you ever used your muscle in a fight?
« Reply #195 on: August 18, 2007, 05:48:50 AM »
Not very effective.

And why do you think so?

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Re: have you ever used your muscle in a fight?
« Reply #196 on: August 18, 2007, 06:11:37 AM »
hehe amusing thread indeed.
Sort of like a discussion
between some village people about
cars and planes which is faster....

If you put good tires on the car it can go really fast....:D
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Re: have you ever used your muscle in a fight?
« Reply #197 on: August 18, 2007, 08:05:12 AM »
And why do you think so?

Because it's not a fight finisher. Sure it might have it's place as part of a set up, or if your arms are tied but it wouldnt be my first choice

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Re: have you ever used your muscle in a fight?
« Reply #198 on: August 18, 2007, 08:31:00 AM »
I don't need to be ego stroked by a bunch of men on a bodybuilding board.  I am simply here to express my opinions in an open forum.  You can think I drop names from a magazines all you want, I don't care, and I am not a fatty.   ;D
hahahahah, another little chickenshit afraid to post pictures. ;D

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Re: have you ever used your muscle in a fight?
« Reply #199 on: August 18, 2007, 08:33:01 AM »
Haha is he "bulldog" from rocky? you still remember that guy? haha