Author Topic: Chavez (Read 4398 times)

Al Doggity · « **on:** August 15, 2007, 06:30:51 PM »

He plans on introducing a resolution to remove term limits on his presidency. The measure will also severely limit the authority of elected governors and mayors.

The aim of the overhaul is “to guarantee to the people the largest amount of happiness possible,” according to his communications minister.

Geo · « **Reply #1 on:** August 15, 2007, 09:41:05 PM »

it's called a dictatorship and with his views and opinions on everything that concerns us how could we be surprised ?

lot of oil down there so he's swingin a pretty heavy hammer

headhuntersix · « **Reply #2 on:** August 16, 2007, 06:44:47 AM »

Not so much from the Left as he takes more power......he's buying subs and Russian aircraft...yeah wonderful guy.

24KT · « **Reply #3 on:** August 16, 2007, 07:03:43 AM »

Quote from: headhuntersix on August 16, 2007, 06:44:47 AM

Not so much from the Left as he takes more power......he's buying subs and Russian aircraft...yeah wonderful guy.

...but if he bought the military equipment from McDonnell Douglas or American manufacturers it would be ok tho?

Dos Equis · « **Reply #4 on:** August 16, 2007, 11:30:03 AM »

He's a nut.

headhuntersix · « **Reply #5 on:** August 16, 2007, 11:42:30 AM »

Jag, um if he was an friend yeah. Instead he cavorts with enemies of the US. Especially Iran. Amazing your backing a guy who's trampling on human rights and slipping further towards the usual latin american dictatorship.

24KT · « **Reply #6 on:** August 16, 2007, 11:55:31 PM »

Quote from: headhuntersix on August 16, 2007, 11:42:30 AM

Jag, um if he was an friend yeah. Instead he cavorts with enemies of the US. Especially Iran. Amazing your backing a guy who's trampling on human rights and slipping further towards the usual latin american dictatorship.

I asked a simple question? the subtext in your post implied your major displeasure with the man had to do with his purchase of Russian military equipment. I was simply asking for a clarification of your views. Unlike you, I do not read a simple statement or cherry pick a fact, and create an entire backstory to it. Next, you'll be having me planning a wedding to the man. Take a valium. please & thank you.

ps: As a member of the US military, I think it behooves you to pay more attention to the trampling of human rights in America before you run off complaining about threats to America. America's enemies at home (on Capitol Hill and throughout the beltway) are more of an immediate threat to America than Chavez has ever been, ...and more possibly ever could be.

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #7 on:** August 17, 2007, 03:57:47 AM »

Quote from: headhuntersix on August 16, 2007, 06:44:47 AM

Not so much from the Left as he takes more power......he's buying subs and Russian aircraft...yeah wonderful guy.

Not so much what

I'm laughing my ass off at the setback this causes the elite globalist scumbags with some "ancient plan" to dominate the world. Will it stop them, no

I'm sure they'll have their little Ruler of the Galaxy ~~dunce cap~~crown someday and you can be happy when all the world and beyond is forced to bow to their every desire as they reign in a 1000 years of ~~tyranny~~ freedom for all.

Hedgehog · « **Reply #8 on:** August 17, 2007, 05:34:34 AM »

Quote from: headhuntersix on August 16, 2007, 11:42:30 AM

Jag, um if he was an friend yeah. Instead he cavorts with enemies of the US. Especially Iran. Amazing your backing a guy who's trampling on human rights and slipping further towards the usual latin american dictatorship.

It is never ok.

Regardless if he supports USA, Sweden or whatever.

If he is anti-democratic, and a dictator, he needs to go.

Anyone with true democratic values will realize this in the end, I hope.

Hedgehog · « **Reply #9 on:** August 17, 2007, 05:35:50 AM »

Quote from: jaguarenterprises on August 16, 2007, 07:03:43 AM

...but if he bought the military equipment from McDonnell Douglas or American manufacturers it would be ok tho?

I've yet to see you disown Chavez.

I seriously question your democratic values.

I seriously do.

Nordic Superman · « **Reply #10 on:** August 17, 2007, 05:47:21 AM »

Quote from: Hedgehog on August 17, 2007, 05:35:50 AM

I seriously question your democratic values.

I question your intelligence with such remarks Hedge. How you haven't realised she has few democratic values before now is a travesty!

See this Hedge:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=162288.msg2293265#msg2293265

Total lack of education and knowledge on her part, making moslems the victims EVEN WHEN THEY'RE NOT. My post is the last and is still awaiting her responce. Jag, could you oblige and respond?

People like Jag are very dangerous because they are very vocal and make victims out of the wrong people which hurts us all in the end.

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #11 on:** August 17, 2007, 07:41:39 AM »

Holy shit... Not that you could tell from any media source because they all seem to be aligned against Chavez, but this is not remotely close to the truth. He's proposed ending term limits and wanted to have terms at 7 years and it looks like they're going with 6 years. He will be there indefinitely if the people want him there, if not then not... But the original post of this thread pretty much sums up the propaganda reported in 99.9 percent of the media...

Al Doggity · « **Reply #12 on:** August 17, 2007, 08:25:25 AM »

Quote from: Berserker on August 17, 2007, 07:41:39 AM

But the original post of this thread pretty much sums up the propaganda reported in 99.9 percent of the media...

Hey! I resemble that comment!

I posted some other shit in that post, too. He not only proposed an end to term limits, he is attempting to institutionally hobble opposition and usurp and consolidate power from other government factions. It's obvious that Venezuela is edging towards a dictatorship.

Nordic Superman · « **Reply #13 on:** August 17, 2007, 08:38:58 AM »

Quote from: Berserker on August 17, 2007, 07:41:39 AM

He will be there indefinitely if the people want him there, if not then not...

The Germans wanted Hitler.

Does your stupidity know no limits?

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #14 on:** August 17, 2007, 09:44:19 AM »

Quote from: Nordic Superman on August 17, 2007, 08:38:58 AM

The Germans wanted Hitler.

Does your stupidity know no limits?

Nordic Superman · « **Reply #15 on:** August 17, 2007, 10:04:31 AM »

Quote from: Berserker on August 17, 2007, 09:44:19 AM

Your sarcasm shows you're on a power trip from being a mod, you're a fucking dictator just like your hero Chavez.

Berserker loves Chavez, therefore loves Hitler

Simple algebra!

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #16 on:** August 17, 2007, 10:17:18 AM »

Quote from: Nordic Superman on August 17, 2007, 10:04:31 AM

Your sarcasm shows you're on a power trip from being a mod, you're a fucking dictator just like your hero Chavez.

Berserker loves Chavez, therefore loves Hitler

Simple algebra!

<==Double Power Trip

headhuntersix · « **Reply #17 on:** August 17, 2007, 12:32:57 PM »

JAG, I have yet to meet anybody who's rights have been "trampled" in this country. When it happens here, you get to to sue. I bet I'd fall over 50 people outside my hotel room in Chavez's socialist paradise that have issues with uncle Hugo. There u can't sue, I bet you get stuffed into a car and end up in a dump. I know full well what u ment by your post...take a vallium...me..your the Lib cut and paste queen. How can u defend Chavez, the guy is running down the road to dictatorship. I bet u have a Che shirt don't u...another wonderful guy.

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #18 on:** August 17, 2007, 12:49:05 PM »

Quote from: headhuntersix on August 17, 2007, 12:32:57 PM

JAG, I have yet to meet anybody who's rights have been "trampled" in this country. When it happens here, you get to to sue. I bet I'd fall over 50 people outside my hotel room in Chavez's socialist paradise that have issues with uncle Hugo. There u can't sue, I bet you get stuffed into a car and end up in a dump. I know full well what u ment by your post...take a vallium...me..your the Lib cut and paste queen. How can u defend Chavez, the guy is running down the road to dictatorship. I bet u have a Che shirt don't u...another wonderful guy.

Did you just note that you've yet to "meet anybody" who's had their rights trampled on...

Are you saying there isn't any such cases or you haven't "met" anyone involved in such a case

headhuntersix · « **Reply #19 on:** August 17, 2007, 12:54:47 PM »

Let me clarify......NO...becaus e the cases are few and far between...U guys make it sound like their rounding people up and taking them away to some Alaskan Gulag.....gimme a break. Sure Uncle Sam has been a bit heavy handed...we're at war...relax. Oh wait..we're not at war..the US military is at war while the American people continue with their collective heads in ths sand....as u were.

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #20 on:** August 17, 2007, 01:07:17 PM »

Quote from: headhuntersix on August 17, 2007, 12:54:47 PM

Let me clarify......NO...becaus e the cases are few and far between...U guys make it sound like their rounding people up and taking them away to some Alaskan Gulag.....gimme a break. Sure Uncle Sam has been a bit heavy handed...we're at war...relax. Oh wait..we're not at war..the US military is at war while the American people continue with their collective heads in ths sand....as u were.

Do you have a valid reason Americans should not judge what's ok now based on what the next progression can be or what is possible within the current change? I mean because there's a pretty long goddamned tradition of doing this and for good reason. Change most often occurs in stages and I don't care what you say, there is every reason in the world to say, whoa bubba, I don't like what can be done with this or the possible next progression after things like the patriot act, homeland security, enemy combatants, torture, etc etc etc... It's our duty today to guide our country where our next generations will be born into. There is plenty to indicate alarm within our current direction. The only people who want you to focus on today are usually the people asking you not to look at tomorrow which is pretty fucked up. Why the hell would we not want to address these things when virturally every other intelligent decision in our lives require us to do exactly this.

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #21 on:** August 17, 2007, 01:12:04 PM »

Quote from: headhuntersix on August 17, 2007, 12:54:47 PM

Let me clarify......NO...becaus e the cases are few and far between...U guys make it sound like their rounding people up and taking them away to some Alaskan Gulag.....gimme a break. Sure Uncle Sam has been a bit heavy handed...we're at war...relax. Oh wait..we're not at war..the US military is at war while the American people continue with their collective heads in ths sand....as u were.

Oh and who right there with your sand comment

If anything you can blame that on this president's insistance that the military bare the full brunt of the war not requireing any sacrice from the people. that's all these warmongers and we both know they've done this because even more people would wake up to what bullshit it is if they were required to sacrifice. So the ones who have their heads in the sand? Yea, Bush and team neocon not only wanted it that way, they would like more of it...

headhuntersix · « **Reply #22 on:** August 17, 2007, 01:17:31 PM »

While Bush and his team have not communicted the threat as effectively as they should..the media has picked up the slack. They did a poll in 2004 that mentioned the draft 14% were for it..thats the lowest in history, since 1917. Nobody cares....its not Bush/Repubs at war...its this country....and right or wrong they need to sacrifice.

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #23 on:** August 17, 2007, 01:29:08 PM »

Quote from: headhuntersix on August 17, 2007, 01:17:31 PM

While Bush and his team have not communicated the threat as effectively as they should..the media has picked up the slack. They did a poll in 2004 that mentioned the draft 14% were for it..thats the lowest in history, since 1917. Nobody cares....its not Bush/Repubs at war...its this country....and right or wrong they need to sacrifice.

LOL, it's overwhelming been the dems calling for that sacrifice and the republicans almost completely against it

and that's a fact.

headhuntersix · « **Reply #24 on:** August 17, 2007, 01:32:42 PM »

Bullshit...ok maybe they have spoken that fact, but neither side means it. Not if they wanted to get elected. Hitler was marching though Europe in 1940 and FDR was reluctent to bring up the draft because elctions were coming up, he only did so because the Repubs thought it was a good idea as well. Nobody will dare give this serious thought. Nobody in power..because nobody cares...it a war over there.