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Re: Montreal Pro: Milos Sarcev 3 weeks out
« Reply #550 on: August 25, 2007, 09:24:15 PM »
Milos, all that is fine and dandy, but let me ask you this: if you are so very health conscious and always had that priority then how come you did the IV plasma expander drip for the Olympia? Without knowing what the ramifications would be. How come you bought an unknown secret diuretic from Chad? You took a diuretic you couldn't even identify and therefore put your life into someone else's hands. How come you decided to shoot a lot of Synthol into your body when the long term consequences are unknown? How come you were experimenting with both long and short acting insulins and going hypo frequently? How come you overdosed on transdermal thyroid hormones and hadn't done your research on how much goes into circulation? Did you also have that weak mindset and lacking discipline?

So you certainly had that kamikaze attitude many times during your career. If gh15 is a fool then you were at one point also.

Fair enough.
As I used my example many times to expose MY MISTAKES and have OTHERS LEARN "at my expense" I voluntarily talked about EACH and EVERY MISTAKE I MADE before and I will do it again...

I even agreed to do FLEX article making myself a target and sticking a label 'meathead' right on my forehead...

So, let me at least emphasise again - that ALL MY EMBERASSING MISTAKES I did not keep as a secrets - so I could SAVE some of you...I am glad that you (and hopefully some others REMEMBERED what I did).

If you really want the answer:

#1) PLASMA EXPANDERS - I did hear about it from Chad - and his info was actually wrong...As we talked on the phone he was mentioning something about hydrostatic pressure, oncotic pressure, molecular weight of the expanders...and few other things that just didn't make sense...and as I asked him details - he confirmed that his osmotic diuretic (manitol) is "specially made" and different than one in Pharmacies...
I did what he reccomanded (in Canada 1998) and looked great 30 minutes before prejudging...until I went backstage and I started spilling big time...

After the contest I consulted him again - and in our phone conversation he AGAIN mentioned details about different pressures in human body that was incorrect (if you consult any textbook physiology and/or pharmacology)...As I was confused and asked him AGAIN - he simply added that I did everything right but I didn't have that special manitol...
Anyway, I used manitol found in US Pharmacy - and similar thing happened - I started spilling after I left my hotel room - on the way to prejudging...
[Just to mention in first show 1998 in San Francisco - using MY DIURETIC not on IFBB list at the time "Xipamide" I managed to beat Mike Matarazzo who easily made top three in the next two weeks - loosing only to Kevin and Ronnie...I placed 7th in Canada and 11th at the NOC - after winning and being runner-up year before]

By 1999 I managed to figure plasma expanders out - and used it few more times (Ironman 1999 and Arnold Classic for example...but MY WAY...and still I would NOT reccomend it to anyone - IT IS JUST NOT WORTH IT).

#2) Diuretic that Chad used with everyone was SUPER EFFECTIVE - and that's why I used it...but the fact is - the only way to get it is IF he comes in the room and mix it in your glass - and you have to drink it in front of him...So, I had a choice to make: either that way or no way at all...
I still remember that he was talking about "mercurial base" diuretic...pulled of the US market...and after I told him that mercurial diuretics were replaced and more importantly KIDNEY-KILLERS (pulled out of the Rx market due to their EXTREME renal toxicity) - he answered that his diuretic is "modified mercurial"...and my answer to that was: atomic bomb is even more dangerous if modified...

#3) Synthol issue I discussed already so many times...so I'll pass this time Randy and Gonzaga are about to START...

#4) Insulin experiments I had to do MYSELF as nobody knew how to do it...and I found the way that even doctors agreed - COULD BE SAFE and VERY EFFECTIVE...On that maybe later...

#5) Transdermal thyroid - was my last mistake - as I forgot to think about how women look (and think) about little cream they need to apply.
Obviously my wife thought it was a moisturiser and not a THYROID MEDICATION...and as she was applying on my back and glutes (yes glutes...and somehow I didn't mind her rubbing that cream forever ::)) - I overlooked the possibility of using TOO MUCH - which ended up happening...
So there you have it...I made many mistakes in my life - and admit them all...

Now, I am also trying to STOP YOU ALL FROM making even bigger mistake - and listen to gh15...Please THINK ABOUT IT!

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Re: Montreal Pro: Milos Sarcev 3 weeks out
« Reply #551 on: August 25, 2007, 09:29:31 PM »
I still remember that he was talking about "mercurial base" diuretic...pulled of the US market...and after I told him that mercurial diuretics were replaced and more importantly KIDNEY-KILLERS (pulled out of the Rx market due to their EXTREME renal toxicity) - he answered that his diuretic is "modified mercurial"...



Are you saying The Chad is a kidney thief??  :o


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Re: Montreal Pro: Milos Sarcev 3 weeks out
« Reply #552 on: August 25, 2007, 09:35:35 PM »
brutal honesty Milos
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Re: Montreal Pro: Milos Sarcev 3 weeks out
« Reply #553 on: August 25, 2007, 09:35:36 PM »

''Im Big Your Small''

Milo's where did you get that top from?

You forgot: "Have a Nice Day" under that smiley

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Re: Montreal Pro: Milos Sarcev 3 weeks out
« Reply #554 on: August 25, 2007, 09:37:29 PM »
Could you please link to some reference. What do you mean by "same levels 12 hours after injection"? Do you have a reference that shows Humalog to have different kinetics in people without diabetes like you say?

From knowing many guys who have used Humalog it's really only "active" for about 2 hours, for all practical purposes and intents. Yes, the tail is a bit longer (looking at a graph) but if you haven't gone hypo in the first 2 hours and have eaten up to that point you are generally "safe" after 2 hours. This is just what I've seen so don't anyone take this as advice of any kind. Stay away from it.  8)

Let me look for it and I will post it, as well as some links to other forums as well.  You are correct though what you see on the graphs is the tail (which shows that it does stay in your system as long as Humulin R), however each individual has a different level of insulin sensitivity.  That is why I recommend that you try out the insulin and see what works best for you.  I was originally told that Humalog was the way to go to and it made me fat.  But it may work differently with you.  The point I was getting at was you cant just go with a blanket statement that one type is better than the other, you have to try them out and make your own decision. 

Be safe and start out slow.

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Re: Montreal Pro: Milos Sarcev 3 weeks out
« Reply #555 on: August 25, 2007, 09:43:40 PM »
RANDY COUTURE...what a guy!

Now - he is one year older than me...Watch me next year...I am coming back to win few more shows before I retire...at the age of 80.

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Re: Montreal Pro: Milos Sarcev 3 weeks out
« Reply #556 on: August 25, 2007, 09:44:17 PM »
Let me look for it and I will post it, as well as some links to other forums as well.  You are correct though what you see on the graphs is the tail (which shows that it does stay in your system as long as Humulin R), however each individual has a different level of insulin sensitivity.  That is why I recommend that you try out the insulin and see what works best for you.  I was originally told that Humalog was the way to go to and it made me fat.  But it may work differently with you.  The point I was getting at was you cant just go with a blanket statement that one type is better than the other, you have to try them out and make your own decision. 

Be safe and start out slow.




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Re: Montreal Pro: Milos Sarcev 3 weeks out
« Reply #557 on: August 25, 2007, 09:45:00 PM »
RANDY COUTURE...what a guy!

Now - he is one year older than me...Watch me next year...I am coming back to win few more shows before I retire...at the age of 80.


Do you know any current pros who are likely to make it to age 80?  ::)
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Re: Montreal Pro: Milos Sarcev 3 weeks out
« Reply #558 on: August 25, 2007, 09:46:05 PM »

Do you know any current pros who are likely to make it to age 80?  ::)
Jocelyn Peltier (sp) you know, the guy that's always last, the little dude ::)
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Re: Montreal Pro: Milos Sarcev 3 weeks out
« Reply #559 on: August 25, 2007, 09:48:46 PM »

Do you know any current pros who are likely to make it to age 80?  ::)

MOST...if not all... ;)

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Re: Montreal Pro: Milos Sarcev 3 weeks out
« Reply #560 on: August 25, 2007, 09:51:02 PM »
Milos, what did Chad charge for that magic cup of diuretic that you had to drink in front of him?
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Re: Montreal Pro: Milos Sarcev 3 weeks out
« Reply #561 on: August 25, 2007, 09:51:51 PM »

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Re: Montreal Pro: Milos Sarcev 3 weeks out
« Reply #562 on: August 25, 2007, 09:59:46 PM »
Milos, what did Chad charge for that magic cup of diuretic that you had to drink in front of him?
500 bucks if i remember correctly LOL

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Re: Montreal Pro: Milos Sarcev 3 weeks out
« Reply #563 on: August 25, 2007, 10:09:50 PM »
Fair enough.
As I used my example many times to expose MY MISTAKES and have OTHERS LEARN "at my expense" I voluntarily talked about EACH and EVERY MISTAKE I MADE before and I will do it again...

Now, I am also trying to STOP YOU ALL FROM making even bigger mistake - and listen to gh15...Please THINK ABOUT IT!

much respect for doing this....
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Re: Montreal Pro: Milos Sarcev 3 weeks out
« Reply #564 on: August 25, 2007, 10:15:29 PM »
Fair enough.
As I used my example many times to expose MY MISTAKES and have OTHERS LEARN "at my expense" I voluntarily talked about EACH and EVERY MISTAKE I MADE before and I will do it again...

I even agreed to do FLEX article making myself a target and sticking a label 'meathead' right on my forehead...

So, let me at least emphasise again - that ALL MY EMBERASSING MISTAKES I did not keep as a secrets - so I could SAVE some of you...I am glad that you (and hopefully some others REMEMBERED what I did).

If you really want the answer:

#1) PLASMA EXPANDERS - I did hear about it from Chad - and his info was actually wrong...As we talked on the phone he was mentioning something about hydrostatic pressure, oncotic pressure, molecular weight of the expanders...and few other things that just didn't make sense...and as I asked him details - he confirmed that his osmotic diuretic (manitol) is "specially made" and different than one in Pharmacies...
I did what he reccomanded (in Canada 1998) and looked great 30 minutes before prejudging...until I went backstage and I started spilling big time...

After the contest I consulted him again - and in our phone conversation he AGAIN mentioned details about different pressures in human body that was incorrect (if you consult any textbook physiology and/or pharmacology)...As I was confused and asked him AGAIN - he simply added that I did everything right but I didn't have that special manitol...
Anyway, I used manitol found in US Pharmacy - and similar thing happened - I started spilling after I left my hotel room - on the way to prejudging...
[Just to mention in first show 1998 in San Francisco - using MY DIURETIC not on IFBB list at the time "Xipamide" I managed to beat Mike Matarazzo who easily made top three in the next two weeks - loosing only to Kevin and Ronnie...I placed 7th in Canada and 11th at the NOC - after winning and being runner-up year before]

By 1999 I managed to figure plasma expanders out - and used it few more times (Ironman 1999 and Arnold Classic for example...but MY WAY...and still I would NOT reccomend it to anyone - IT IS JUST NOT WORTH IT).

#2) Diuretic that Chad used with everyone was SUPER EFFECTIVE - and that's why I used it...but the fact is - the only way to get it is IF he comes in the room and mix it in your glass - and you have to drink it in front of him...So, I had a choice to make: either that way or no way at all...
I still remember that he was talking about "mercurial base" diuretic...pulled of the US market...and after I told him that mercurial diuretics were replaced and more importantly KIDNEY-KILLERS (pulled out of the Rx market due to their EXTREME renal toxicity) - he answered that his diuretic is "modified mercurial"...and my answer to that was: atomic bomb is even more dangerous if modified...

#3) Synthol issue I discussed already so many times...so I'll pass this time Randy and Gonzaga are about to START...

#4) Insulin experiments I had to do MYSELF as nobody knew how to do it...and I found the way that even doctors agreed - COULD BE SAFE and VERY EFFECTIVE...On that maybe later...

#5) Transdermal thyroid - was my last mistake - as I forgot to think about how women look (and think) about little cream they need to apply.
Obviously my wife thought it was a moisturiser and not a THYROID MEDICATION...and as she was applying on my back and glutes (yes glutes...and somehow I didn't mind her rubbing that cream forever ::)) - I overlooked the possibility of using TOO MUCH - which ended up happening...
So there you have it...I made many mistakes in my life - and admit them all...

Now, I am also trying to STOP YOU ALL FROM making even bigger mistake - and listen to gh15...Please THINK ABOUT IT!

honest, i like that  not enough of it these days

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Re: Montreal Pro: Milos Sarcev 3 weeks out
« Reply #565 on: August 25, 2007, 10:16:18 PM »
honest, i like that  not enough of it these days

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Re: Montreal Pro: Milos Sarcev 3 weeks out
« Reply #566 on: August 25, 2007, 10:35:02 PM »
MOST...if not all... ;)


You're a funny guy, Milos.  ;D
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Re: Montreal Pro: Milos Sarcev 3 weeks out
« Reply #567 on: August 26, 2007, 01:06:55 AM »
Milos i believe you totally, and thank you for telling the truth to the guys on here it will be probably lost on them, but theres a few of us here that appreciate your honesty, but it will be easier for them to believer that the reason they are not doing the olympia is because they arent doing the mgs.
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Re: Montreal Pro: Milos Sarcev 3 weeks out
« Reply #568 on: August 26, 2007, 06:36:31 AM »
Milos i believe you totally, and thank you for telling the truth to the guys on here it will be probably lost on them, but theres a few of us here that appreciate your honesty, but it will be easier for them to believer that the reason they are not doing the olympia is because they arent doing the mgs.
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Sad truth is - when I have met some pros - they were doing EVEN LESS drugs than what I reccomand..
I know at least 5 Olympia competitors who would never go over 350 mg of TEST a week...and another 5 who would max at 500mg a week...plus same amounts of "anabolic of choice"...

When I suggested 750 to couple (one close to 300lbs) they were scared shitless...

Now - I don't talk to Shawn (for example) and I really don't know his cycles exactly...but I am sure - nobody would beleive him IF he said what was his biggest cycle - ever...

If I have to guess - it would have been: 6 months ON, 6 months OFF...Starting with maybe 500mg test + 500 mg deca for 6 weeks...than adding 30 (or 50 mg D-bol) and closer to the show switching from deca to EQ...from EQ to Winstrol....plus last 10 weeks GH...



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Re: Montreal Pro: Milos Sarcev 3 weeks out
« Reply #569 on: August 26, 2007, 06:37:04 AM »
Eseclin was a better and safer than Syntol.

Esiclene was great.. :'(

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Re: Montreal Pro: Milos Sarcev 3 weeks out
« Reply #570 on: August 26, 2007, 06:38:19 AM »
brutal honesty Milos

What everyone fails to realize:   AS ALWAYS (brutal honesty)! ;)

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Re: Montreal Pro: Milos Sarcev 3 weeks out
« Reply #571 on: August 26, 2007, 06:40:06 AM »

You're a funny guy, Milos.  ;D

I am a funny guy...or smart clairvoyant?

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Re: Montreal Pro: Milos Sarcev 3 weeks out
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Re: Montreal Pro: Milos Sarcev 3 weeks out
« Reply #573 on: August 26, 2007, 06:45:24 AM »
Jocelyn Peltier (sp) you know, the guy that's always last, the little dude ::)

And knowing Jocelyn - he'll be on that stage - just as good... for years to come... ;D

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Re: Montreal Pro: Milos Sarcev 3 weeks out
« Reply #574 on: August 26, 2007, 06:46:12 AM »
Milos, looking shredded by the way!   where is your gym anyway?

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