Montreal Pro: Milos Sarcev 3 weeks out

[The Coach]

if ur not bber. why on this forum?

My point is, if this guy is an athlete, he obviously doesn't know what I do for a living, he must seriously think I'm just some personal trainer shmoe!!

[BEAST 8692]

Hahah, how Ironic........you've gone from saying that the list you posted was ALL androgenic, then I pointed out that infact some on that list were mostly anabolic.........you full of shit status is waaay more intact than mine.

Quick serious question.........how old are you? I mean dude....at least post a pic to show SOME credibility.

go back and find a post of mine where i even implied 'ALL androgenic' stupid.

i even put it in capitals so you wouldn't miss it. i distinctly recall saying anabolic AND androgenic.

seriously, anyone with half a brain can see you are talking out of your ass. androgens cause water retention - brilliant!

i am a competitive athlete in another sport that probably looks more like a bodybuilder than you do. or can't you conceive that someone could enjoy bbing whilst participating in another sport?

[BEAST 8692]

I am not training with Milos, just in his gym. I see the amount of work and torture his guys and he goes through to get a workout, it's insane. I don't now about insulin or any other drugs or his shakes for that matter,( did try a sample of each and they do taste great,) all I know is what I see with my own eyes and he busts his ass and stays lean all year, never bloated or blurred lines.

Now his regime of supplements, what he takes, who knows, you cannot make an assumption that you know he is on other AAS, unless you are there with him. my point is after all these years of training, isn't it possible that is all he is taking(insulin). he only needs to maintain his muscle mass, not add to it. The guy is that weight and condition all the time.period.

you don't just maintain 255lbs of ripped muscle.

the body is either anabolic or catabolic. muscle doesn't just stay the same, especially when it's at that level. that size was created with anabolic steroids and other anabolic drugs. once these drugs are ceased and the endocrinology normalises the body protects itself by shedding the unnatural status (extreme muscle development) and goes back to what it was designed to do (which, btw, is not to maintain 255lbs of ripped energy consuming muscle).

survival of the species is primal and nature will not allow 260lb cut up bbers to exist. not at this point of evolution anyway. what you see at milos' gym are guys that are anything but natural in a hormonal sense.

go spend some money on one of the gurus (as opposed to a cheer leader like 'coach') for actual drug regimes (hilarious that people actually think milos is going to give this info free on a public message board when he charges an arm and a leg for it). see what they think of the insulin only idea. 20 minutes later when they have finished laughing their box off they may be coherent enough to inform you.

[Milos_Sarcev]

you don't just maintain 255lbs of ripped muscle.

the body is either anabolic or catabolic. muscle doesn't just stay the same, especially when it's at that level. that size was created with anabolic steroids and other anabolic drugs. once these drugs are ceased and the endocrinology normalises the body protects itself by shedding the unnatural status (extreme muscle development) and goes back to what it was designed to do (which, btw, is not to maintain 255lbs of ripped energy consuming muscle).

survival of the species is primal and nature will not allow 260lb cut up bbers to exist. not at this point of evolution anyway. what you see at milos' gym are guys that are anything but natural in a hormonal sense.

go spend some money on one of the gurus (as opposed to a cheer leader like 'coach') for actual drug regimes (hilarious that people actually think milos is going to give this info free on a public message board when he charges an arm and a leg for it). see what they think of the insulin only idea. 20 minutes later when they have finished laughing their box off they may be coherent enough to inform you.

...or that someone thinks that he is so important to actually think milos is going to give "whatever info he is asking FOR FREE?  "hilarious that people actually think milos is going to give this info free on a public message board when he charges an arm and a leg for it)


#1) KNS supplements are designed and work EXACTLY as I said...Fact that we are "out of stock" must mean something (oh -yeah...probably didn't make enough initially...)
      Your $1000 challenge IS ACCEPTED - and I confirm (with my word of honor - in front of all getbiggers here as a witnesses) that I did accept your challenge and WILL substantiate all my   claims -in front of you, video camera's (FITSHOW or someone else?) and your $1000 in cash placed on my desk...unless you expect that I should just jump into giving you all the info for free? But, than again...you realized that it is - "hilarious that people actually think milos is going to give this info free on a public message board when he charges an arm and a leg for it"...so I am sure you are willing to pay for the info...Aren't you?

#2) MY CASE is EXACTLY as I said...and indeed I will be willing to prove that to you as well - when you come with that grand - you promissed. Just to make it little bit more interesting - are you offering another grand IF I prove AGAIN what I am saying?
Maybe you could bring agents or a prosecutor in my case...?
I love to see when "secure and overly confident people like yourself" need to step up - and walk the walk - after they were talking non stop...
Here is your chance to put your money where your mouth is...I am READY and WAITING...Or...it is going to be just a little bit more of the same...when is coming from you: a hot air with a certain (very bad) smell...?

#3) Besides being anabolic or catabolic - body could be maybe: HYPERANABOLIC...if you know what you are doing...off course...and for you - it's only a $1000 away..."big boy"

#4) And - to certainly make your trip worth while - why don't we throw in a drug test as well - for just another grand (I would offer 10 grand - but than you would maybe have God knows what kind of excuse...so I'll keep it low...to make everything affordable.

Imagine that - you could make considerable amount of money + publically emberass me and prove me wrong in at least some (if not all) of these cases...and to top it all off - it will be video RECORDED...

Deal?

[D.L. 5]

Milos when is next batch of supplements ready?

[Milos_Sarcev]

Milos when is next batch of supplements ready?

I'll have it for the Olympia (KNS will have a booth at the Olympia expo)...and I will consider all serious distributors from around the world...while for US my partner and I are still debating IF we will go to retail market right away or just "wait for a while"...

[D.L. 5]

I'll have it for the Olympia (KNS will have a booth at the Olympia expo)...and I will consider all serious distributors from around the world...while for US my partner and I are still debating IF we will go to retail market right away or just "wait for a while"...

ok cool.

also is the gym tank top the same as the 'y-back' tank top? the y-back has no options for size or colour are u sold out?

not sure on ur site, want to buy.

[BEAST 8692]

...or that someone thinks that he is so important to actually think milos is going to give "whatever info he is asking FOR FREE?  "hilarious that people actually think milos is going to give this info free on a public message board when he charges an arm and a leg for it)


#1) KNS supplements are designed and work EXACTLY as I said...Fact that we are "out of stock" must mean something (oh -yeah...probably didn't make enough initially...)
      Your $1000 challenge IS ACCEPTED - and I confirm (with my word of honor - in front of all getbiggers here as a witnesses) that I did accept your challenge and WILL substantiate all my   claims -in front of you, video camera's (FITSHOW or someone else?) and your $1000 in cash placed on my desk...unless you expect that I should just jump into giving you all the info for free? But, than again...you realized that it is - "hilarious that people actually think milos is going to give this info free on a public message board when he charges an arm and a leg for it"...so I am sure you are willing to pay for the info...Aren't you?

#2) MY CASE is EXACTLY as I said...and indeed I will be willing to prove that to you as well - when you come with that grand - you promissed. Just to make it little bit more interesting - are you offering another grand IF I prove AGAIN what I am saying?
Maybe you could bring agents or a prosecutor in my case...?
I love to see when "secure and overly confident people like yourself" need to step up - and walk the walk - after they were talking non stop...
Here is your chance to put your money where your mouth is...I am READY and WAITING...Or...it is going to be just a little bit more of the same...when is coming from you: a hot air with a certain (very bad) smell...?

#3) Besides being anabolic or catabolic - body could be maybe: HYPERANABOLIC...if you know what you are doing...off course...and for you - it's only a $1000 away..."big boy"

#4) And - to certainly make your trip worth while - why don't we throw in a drug test as well - for just another grand (I would offer 10 grand - but than you would maybe have God knows what kind of excuse...so I'll keep it low...to make everything affordable.

Imagine that - you could make considerable amount of money + publically emberass me and prove me wrong in at least some (if not all) of these cases...and to top it all off - it will be video RECORDED...

Deal?

lmao

you're a funny guy milos.

why would i expect that you would prove anything if, after nearly a full year and suspension from the ifbb enforced, you STILL HAVEN'T PROVED YOUR ALLEGATIONS AGAINST CHUA.

apparently your 9 yr old daughter can understand how your kns products achieve your claims but they are apparently so complicated that months later you still can't explain, even after a $1000.00 pay pal bet and only requiring you to prove ONE OF YOUR CLAIMS - not all of them. should have been the easiest grand you ever made.

proving what you have claimed is all you did in the conspiracy conviction. why do we have to wait until we're all too old to remember? just post the summary of evidence now. should take you about 2 minutes.

you know very well that i don't live anywhere near you (i've told you plenty of times) so quit with the 'come to my gym.' bs.

drug testing? yeah sure, let me just call my team of ioc doctors that i have on standby. now what did i do with that nurse, oh that's right, she's giving me a sponge bath at the moment, should be ready any minute though. just rang the lab and spoke to my personal head lab technition and he says the team are ready to go. the 200 grand a year analysis guy is out to lunch at the moment but he should be back any minute now. oh shit, i forgot about the testing equipment! i'll just duck out to walmart and get it, won't be a minute. they're offering a special where they have the latest high tech equipment that can test for every single anabolic drug ever and currently being invented, balco, the lot. of course it hasn't been invented yet but isn't that what i pay that team of scientists for they better get to it post haste or i'll cut their 700 grand a year salaries. oh, and it comes with a milos tank top so i highly recommend these things D.L.5.

 

[LatsMcGee]

Milos do you plan on pimping your juices at the Arnold classic this year?  I have a friend who will guinea pig any supplements I want for as long as I want and I want him to take your magic shakes.

[The Coach]

i don't know much, but i know enough to know that you're full of shit.

1. all the anabolics i listed were used 70's and 80's to get shredded and ALL are androgenic.

2. you make grandiose statements on how you know milos can be huge and shredded in his 40s on just insulin but you STILL can't tell me how you came to that conclusion.

i'm glad you've found a knew master to follow, but at least go and find out at least the theory of how before you make your assertions.

Could you possibly get owned any worse?

[The Coach]

go back and find a post of mine where i even implied 'ALL androgenic' stupid.

i even put it in capitals so you wouldn't miss it. i distinctly recall saying anabolic AND androgenic.

seriously, anyone with half a brain can see you are talking out of your ass. androgens cause water retention - brilliant!

i am a competitive athlete in another sport that probably looks more like a bodybuilder than you do. or can't you conceive that someone could enjoy bbing whilst participating in another sport?

.

[The Coach]

i am a competitive athlete in another sport that probably looks more like a bodybuilder than you do. or can't you conceive that someone could enjoy bbing whilst participating in another sport?

Again, you obviously don't know the type of training I do for a living? Quit making an ass of yourself........please, I'm actually embarrassed for you.

[BEAST 8692]

Could you possibly get owned any worse?

don't take things out of context now. the simple fact is all of them are androgenic, which was my point at the time.

notice how i didn't say that all were only or exclusively androgenic.

[BEAST 8692]

bravo, a smart free thinking individual who isn't so easily seduced unlike 'coach'.

notice how coach's next post was a complete sidestep?

we both know that coach's assertions that, it is entirely conceivable that milos can be 255 and ripped at late 40s on JUST insulin, are based on...ZERO knowledge/evidence . in fact his only evidence so far produced is to simply point his finger at the contemporary pro bber...and he wants me to believe he's not a fraud because pro bbers are all JUST taking insulin aren't they?  why would they need anything else.

coach, the fact that you are saying that pros from the 70s and 80s were going off drugs like dianabol, anavar, halotestin, anapolon (all androgenic and anabolic drugs) tells me that you have no clue whatsoever. in fact, your average gym nobody knows more. i don't know why you insist on acting like you know something coach. you are a proven liar and a fraud (535lb raw bench press at 180lbs ) and all you've done here is prove it again. you should have stayed out of this one.

we can play semantics all day but the simple fact is that YOU are the one who is full of shit.

all the drug i've stated ARE androgenic. you bet they are and guess what? they are anabolic too .

[YoungBlood]

why would i expect that you would prove anything if, after nearly a full year and suspension from the ifbb enforced, you STILL HAVEN'T PROVED YOUR ALLEGATIONS AGAINST CHUA.

apparently your 9 yr old daughter can understand how your kns products achieve your claims but they are apparently so complicated that months later you still can't explain, even after a $1000.00 pay pal bet and only requiring you to prove ONE OF YOUR CLAIMS - not all of them. should have been the easiest grand you ever made.

Beast, do you ever see anything besides written words on a page?
Like the saying goes, "Look at the moon, not the finger." Do you know what this could possibly mean?
Milos has a way of enticing people to....do the research for themselves!!! Many times, I have seen him tell people to do a search on his board, or recommend a book instead of telling them outright what to do, or how to do it. Why? Because he wants them to learn for themselves, NOT be spoon fed. More than likely that is the very reason he won't say anything specific.
Milos is not like Nasser, who is well known for being a practical joker and not having any regard for anything aside from a laugh that can come from whatever prank he's trying to pull. Milos want's people to benefit and learn from his posts and/or delve deeper into why he says/does something a certain way. Nasser would just want you to do it so he can laugh about some internet idiot that read you can take 1500mg of testosterone suspension every day and not have any sides, because he (Nasser) said so.
In other words, look at the bigger picture.

[D.L. 5]

so gh15 is Nasser?

i never worked out who gh15 is?

[BEAST 8692]

Again, you obviously don't know the type of training I do for a living? Quit making an ass of yourself........please, I'm actually embarrassed for you.

yes i do, you defraud people.

you have been exposed as a fraud many times eg. your raw bench press of 535 at 180 was a classic and when asked to explain any of the bs you put down here, you suddenly can't type.

think about it stupid, name a single thing you've said here that you can support with facts?

you say milos can retain 255lbs ripped on just insulin. i ask you how and you haven't got a fucking clue, you just wanted to hang off milos' nuts so you might feel more important. it's you that should be embarrassed, seeing as you apparently 'train for a living.'

of course, by your own admission, you've had absolutely zero experience with insulin so when pressed to find out how you know it's so effective your only answer was to point at the current pro bbers and say 'well it obviously works.' lmao...and you're supposed to be a trainer omg, i feel sorry for the clients you have defrauded.

as for the ceasing use of steroids that are androgenic to get shredded. well, if you knew the first thing about the drugs you take you would know that top flight pro bbers HAVE ALWAYS TAKEN ANDROGENIC ANABOLIC STEROIDS RIGHT UP UNTIL THE DAY OF THE CONTEST  .

this is an indisputable fact stupid. anadrol, anavar, dianabol, tren, winstrol - all androgenic steroids and taken right up to the contest in order to get SHREDDED along with water and sodium manipulation + diuretics.   you're too easy.

[chester_bbb]

don't take things out of context now. the simple fact is all of them are androgenic, which was my point at the time.

notice how i didn't say that all were only or exclusively androgenic.

Quit backpedalling, you even put ALL in a different font and called him stupid. You just owned yourself twice. Stupid.

[Milos_Sarcev]

Beast, do you ever see anything besides written words on a page?
Like the saying goes, "Look at the moon, not the finger." Do you know what this could possibly mean?
Milos has a way of enticing people to....do the research for themselves!!! May times, I have seen him tell people to do a search on his board, or recommend a book instead of telling them outright what to do, or how to do it. Why? Because he wants them to learn for themselves, NOT be spoon fed. More than likely that is the very reason he won't say anything specific.
Milos is not like Nasser, who is well known for being a practical joker and not having any regard for anything aside from a laugh that can come from whatever prank he's trying to pull. Milos want's people to benefit and learn from his posts and/or delve deeper into why he says/does something a certain way. Nasser would just want you to do it so he can laugh about some internet idiot that read you can take 1500mg of testosterone suspension every day and not have any sides, because he (Nasser) said so.
In other words, look at the bigger picture.

Well, some people still prefer to get fish than learn how to catch the fish...and for those (BAST) I like to suggest expensive sushi restaurant they can't afford...

[YoungBlood]

(I'm puckering up here)

Milos, you're one of the people that taught me how to find things out for themselves, not just ask for it. All through your posts and own board.

[The Coach]

yes i do, you defraud people.

you have been exposed as a fraud many times eg. your raw bench press of 535 at 180 was a classic and when asked to explain any of the bs you put down here, you suddenly can't type.

think about it stupid, name a single thing you've said here that you can support with facts?

you say milos can retain 255lbs ripped on just insulin. i ask you how and you haven't got a fucking clue, you just wanted to hang off milos' nuts so you might feel more important. it's you that should be embarrassed, seeing as you apparently 'train for a living.'

of course, by your own admission, you've had absolutely zero experience with insulin so when pressed to find out how you know it's so effective your only answer was to point at the current pro bbers and say 'well it obviously works.' lmao...and you're supposed to be a trainer omg, i feel sorry for the clients you have defrauded.

as for the ceasing use of steroids that are androgenic to get shredded. well, if you knew the first thing about the drugs you take you would know that top flight pro bbers HAVE ALWAYS TAKEN ANDROGENIC ANABOLIC STEROIDS RIGHT UP UNTIL THE DAY OF THE CONTEST  .

this is an indisputable fact stupid. anadrol, anavar, dianabol, tren, winstrol - all androgenic steroids and taken right up to the contest in order to get SHREDDED along with water and sodium manipulation + diuretics.   you're too easy.

Ok smartass.........what type of training do I do?

[BEAST 8692]

Beast, do you ever see anything besides written words on a page?
Like the saying goes, "Look at the moon, not the finger." Do you know what this could possibly mean?
Milos has a way of enticing people to....do the research for themselves!!! May times, I have seen him tell people to do a search on his board, or recommend a book instead of telling them outright what to do, or how to do it. Why? Because he wants them to learn for themselves, NOT be spoon fed. More than likely that is the very reason he won't say anything specific.
Milos is not like Nasser, who is well known for being a practical joker and not having any regard for anything aside from a laugh that can come from whatever prank he's trying to pull. Milos want's people to benefit and learn from his posts and/or delve deeper into why he says/does something a certain way. Nasser would just want you to do it so he can laugh about some internet idiot that read you can take 1500mg of testosterone suspension every day and not have any sides, because he (Nasser) said so.
In other words, look at the bigger picture.

wow

so this was what he wanted the feds to do when he was charged with conspiracy. he wanted them to learn for themselves that he was not guilty, but alas they didn't and he was convicted.

the ifbb...he wanted them read books about defamation of character but alas they didn't and he was suspended.

experimenting with synthol. he wanted to learn from books but he couldn't read so he caught fire.

YoungBlood, i am a pretty well read man and that is why i'm questioning his reasoning behind his kns products BECAUSE IT DISPUTES EVERYTHING I'VE EVER READ ON HUMAN BIOLOGY, NUTRITION AND ENDOCRINOLOGY. sorry bud, but if you want to pay for over priced sugar and protein be my guest but since he's selling the product and making the claims he does about it i will reserve the right to question it.

[BEAST 8692]

Ok smartass.........what type of training do I do?

that's what you come back with?

i couldn't give a frog's fat ass what type of training you do.

back your talk up and tell me what non-androgenic steroids these 70s and 80s pro bbers were taking to get shredded?

back up your talk and tell me how you reach the conclusion that 255lbs of ripped mass is entirely doable on just insulin alone. i'll be interested to know how you know this seeing as you have had NO PRIOR EXPERIENCE WITH TAKING ONLY INSULIN AND DON'T HAVE THE FOGGIEST IDEA HOW IT WORKS OR HOW TO USE IT.

[Milos_Sarcev]

lmao

you're a funny guy milos.

why would i expect that you would prove anything if, after nearly a full year and suspension from the ifbb enforced, you STILL HAVEN'T PROVED YOUR ALLEGATIONS AGAINST CHUA.

apparently your 9 yr old daughter can understand how your kns products achieve your claims but they are apparently so complicated that months later you still can't explain, even after a $1000.00 pay pal bet and only requiring you to prove ONE OF YOUR CLAIMS - not all of them. should have been the easiest grand you ever made.

proving what you have claimed is all you did in the conspiracy conviction. why do we have to wait until we're all too old to remember? just post the summary of evidence now. should take you about 2 minutes.

you know very well that i don't live anywhere near you (i've told you plenty of times) so quit with the 'come to my gym.' bs.

drug testing? yeah sure, let me just call my team of ioc doctors that i have on standby. now what did i do with that nurse, oh that's right, she's giving me a sponge bath at the moment, should be ready any minute though. just rang the lab and spoke to my personal head lab technition and he says the team are ready to go. the 200 grand a year analysis guy is out to lunch at the moment but he should be back any minute now. oh shit, i forgot about the testing equipment! i'll just duck out to walmart and get it, won't be a minute. they're offering a special where they have the latest high tech equipment that can test for every single anabolic drug ever and currently being invented, balco, the lot. of course it hasn't been invented yet but isn't that what i pay that team of scientists for they better get to it post haste or i'll cut their 700 grand a year salaries. oh, and it comes with a milos tank top so i highly recommend these things D.L.5.

 

lmao...?

Here is your ultimate test of courage...IN YOUR FACE .

I'll get you an airplane ticket to come here...hotel accommodation...and let you choose the lab where we can both take my doping test...also - I still have agents (Doug and Tyson) phone numbers - so you can personally interview them as you prefer that I present the "evidence"...

Now, that is - free trip to California (as you said you are from far-far away?) and possibility to make $4000.00 and emberass me publically + make yourself RIGHT in front of all this people here...

What else do you want?

All you have to find is just little bit of balls to ONCE IN YOUR LIFETIME try to back up your words - you could only be sure and secure enough saying when you are imaginary character - hiding behind your keyboard...

For your satisfaction ONLY - I will even show you all my Paul Chua evidence - and as you didn't remember - I said: I WILL PROVE MY CASE WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT...
I see that everyone is in a hurry...except me...

Maybe I know what and why I am doing things certain way?

But, this is about you...

What kind of excuse will you have now...Too busy...or not old enough to travel without parents yet?

[The Squadfather]

lmao...?

Here is your ultimate test of courage...IN YOUR FACE .

I'll get you an airplane ticket to come here...hotel accommodation...and let you choose the lab where we can both take my doping test...also - I still have agents (Doug and Tyson) phone numbers - so you can personally interview them as you prefer that I present the "evidence"...

Now, that is - free trip to California (as you said you are from far-far away?) and possibility to make $4000.00 and emberass me publically + make yourself RIGHT in front of all this people here...

What else do you want?

All you have to find is just little bit of balls to ONCE IN YOUR LIFETIME try to back up your words - you could only be sure and secure enough saying when you are imaginary character - hiding behind your keyboard...

For your satisfaction ONLY - I will even show you all my Paul Chua evidence - and as you didn't remember - I said: I WILL PROVE MY CASE WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT...
I see that everyone is in a hurry...except me...

Maybe I know what and why I am doing things certain way?

But, this is about you...

What kind of excuse will you have now...Too busy...or not old enough to travel without parents yet?

that will never happen Milos, "beast" is still too scared to even post a picture.