I agree...but I believe that the standard carb based pwo shake has proven to work..lol.. let an aging fool cling to his beliefs.
Let's have an actual civilized discussion here...
You say "proven to work".
define that.
That's the thing that irritates me the most about these supplements and the people that use them.
They always say "i got good results" or "my muscles felt fuller". or some other ambigous statement that really doesn't say if they actually put on muscle or not.
The only OTC supplements that were ever "Proven to work" were the PH's of the late 90's and early 2000's because they were actually steroids.
Creatine basically bloats you and give you added strength because the water retention gives youre muscless a bigger cross section, but it's not lean muscle.
All this Green Bulge, White semen and the rest is all garbage, does nothing.
IMO
