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Re: Ode to baby Mahg: Friend Zone Blues.
« Reply #50 on: September 09, 2007, 11:59:26 PM »
I believe it was the word "bush" that got them miffed.

......and if it was just about sex, I would have invited her over when she originally asked.

Some people just can't see the bigger picture.

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Re: Ode to baby Mahg: Friend Zone Blues.
« Reply #51 on: September 10, 2007, 12:07:47 AM »
My problem is not the "don't fart around them stage" it's a passive submissive brain-dead whiny attention seeking moron who is in need of some serious ass-kicking along with psychiatric help. An imbecile who would have an absolute kannipshit over hearing the F-word, ...so Parker telling me to watch my language at that particular point in the day didn't exactly help my mood any.

This guy keeps calling me up wailing about all his problems... non-stop to the point where I'm beginning to just plain not give a shit. This is an individual who can't seem to rub 2 brain cells together. It makes me wonder how he's able to get dressed in the morning. I finally told him point blank, ..."If it doesn't have to do with X, or isn't about X, ...I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT IT! PERIOD!!!". What does the fucking guy do.... He calls me up exactly 4 hrs later from his cell phone saying "I just wanted to let you know I'm calling you from the back of an ambulance. The paramedic says 'I'm having a stroke'.  ::)

People like that sicken & disgust me beyond belief. How much more fucking pathetic can you get?
I swear I'm tempted to spit. I mean, ...is this guy 52 or 2?  Then he has the nerve to ask me to tell him everytime I think he's not being a man... ::)  Like I have all fucking day!  ::)    ::)

That dude sounds like an  emotional cripple.

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Re: Ode to baby Mahg: Friend Zone Blues.
« Reply #52 on: September 10, 2007, 12:56:51 AM »
That dude sounds like an  emotional cripple.

A spine-less, brain dead, emotional cripple... who will cling to your ass worse than a too tight g-string.
...worse that chewing gum on your shoe on a very hot day.
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Re: Ode to baby Mahg: Friend Zone Blues.
« Reply #53 on: September 10, 2007, 07:10:07 AM »
A spine-less, brain dead, emotional cripple... who will cling to your ass worse than a too tight g-string.
...worse that chewing gum on your shoe on a very hot day.

Got to be rude as Hell. Threatening if need be.
Problem is with your Biz, .. your Ph#s are not like socks....Cant just change them. They are very valuable.

I can see how this'd be a problem... Can you BLOCK HIS CALLS? Or something along that line. Filter somehow.
He wont stop. These kind seek out missfortune. They will just drag you down.

"Save yourself" like my wife says.  Thats very important where shes from. Cant save the world.

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Re: Ode to baby Mahg: Friend Zone Blues.
« Reply #54 on: September 10, 2007, 09:13:43 AM »
Judi,

It seems like this guy need the help of a paid, trained professional. It's pretty rude for him to impose on a business associate with problems like this.

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Re: Ode to baby Mahg: Friend Zone Blues.
« Reply #55 on: September 10, 2007, 01:50:42 PM »
Thanks CQ and DIV, Jag, have you told the dude to grow a pair, and don't call back until he does. If anymore calls, tell him that you will take action (ie:change phone number, call the police for charges of telephone harrassment)

Or go the old school route have someone "have talk with him". Dudes who whine about their problems, but don't inact any solutions to the problems tend to either have abandonment issues or had a mother who solved all their problems for them 

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Re: Ode to baby Mahg: Friend Zone Blues.
« Reply #56 on: September 10, 2007, 04:44:11 PM »
Got to be rude as Hell. Threatening if need be.
Problem is with your Biz, .. your Ph#s are not like socks....Cant just change them. They are very valuable.

Believe me, ...I've tried that route. You have absolutely nooooo idea just how rude I have been...
...but when someone is slightly masochistic, ...rudeness doesn't work. I know what I need to do.
Not looking forward to it, 'cause I know it'll be emotionally devastating for him, ...but ya gotta do what ya gotta do.

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I can see how this'd be a problem... Can you BLOCK HIS CALLS? Or something along that line. Filter somehow.
He wont stop. These kind seek out missfortune. They will just drag you down.

Can't exactly block all his calls, but have made it clear to him he needs to unblock his number when he calls because I don't answer 'unknown caller' calls. That helps somewhat, because when I see his number come up, ...I just let it go straight into voicemail. He's an emotional vampire. Just talking to him feels like I've been latched onto by an emotional parasite that sucks the life right out of you.  :-X  So seeing other emotional cripples unable to make heads or tails of their "relationships" makes my eyes roll so far back in my head it ain't funny.

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"Save yourself" like my wife says.  Thats very important where shes from. Cant save the world.

I realize that, ...and the teat is about to be switched off.  ;)

Judi,

It seems like this guy need the help of a paid, trained professional. It's pretty rude for him to impose on a business associate with problems like this.

Unfortunately, that type of imposition frequently comes up. Many people join network mtkg for many reasons, some join because they want friends, while others join because they want to change their lives financially and make a shitload of money. I focus on those who want to change their lives financially making shitloads of money, ...but you can't avoid the other type who will frequently pretend that is their goal & focus. They want attention, ...but don't merit it, ...and fight like babies to get it.

True story: one year at a convention in Austin Texas, I was having dinner with a guy named Lance. He was hosting the convention that year, cause he was the strongest leader in our host city. He was also an actor with whom I had more than a few things in common, ...and there was a bit of a mutual spark between us. We were seated, dinner had been served, we were already eating, right in the middle of our meal... and this guy came up to the table, and said I saved you a seat over there with Vickie. Talk about an awkward moment. I explained "we've already started eating".  Maybe I can pop by later ...maybe over coffee etc." He kept insisting that I pick up my plate and walk clear across the banquet room to sit with him & Vickie. It was one of the most embarrassing things I had witnessed. Everyone at the table was furiously wiping their mouths with their napkins in order to disguise their overwhelming urge to burst out laughing. The rest of the convention he spent giving Lance the dirtiest looks for the entire time we were there. The next day while having lunch with Lance was even more awkward. He plopped himself down at our table and glowered at him the entire time. The jealousy & covetousness over your time & attention can be more than a little annoying... it's claustrophobic. And we have a global conference coming up this week. He's gonna be in for a helluva shock because the entire time, I'll be hanging with an old friend from Boston that I haven't seen in a while.

Thanks CQ and DIV, Jag, have you told the dude to grow a pair, and don't call back until he does. If anymore calls, tell him that you will take action (ie:change phone number, call the police for charges of telephone harrassment)

Thanks Parker, but no, changing the phone number or calling the police is not an option.
Believe me, I've told him to grow a pair many times.

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Or go the old school route have someone "have talk with him". Dudes who whine about their problems, but don't inact any solutions to the problems tend to either have abandonment issues or had a mother who solved all their problems for them 

Having someone "talk with him" is also not an option. He's not an enemy, ...just an annoying parasite. {lol}
I know what I have to do. I'm simply going to allow him to take a good long hard look at the type of man who I respect, and want to hang out with, one who merits my time, attention and respect, ...and allow himself to take a good long hard look at himself in a mirror. Then compare the two.
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Re: Ode to baby Mahg: Friend Zone Blues.
« Reply #57 on: September 10, 2007, 04:58:01 PM »
Believe me, ...I've tried that route. You have absolutely nooooo idea just how rude I have been...
...but when someone is slightly masochistic, ...rudeness doesn't work. I know what I need to do.
Not looking forward to it, 'cause I know it'll be emotionally devastating for him, ...but ya gotta do what ya gotta do.

Can't exactly block all his calls, but have made it clear to him he needs to unblock his number when he calls because I don't answer 'unknown caller' calls. That helps somewhat, because when I see his number come up, ...I just let it go straight into voicemail. He's an emotional vampire. Just talking to him feels like I've been latched onto by an emotional parasite that sucks the life right out of you.  :-X  So seeing other emotional cripples unable to make heads or tails of their "relationships" makes my eyes roll so far back in my head it ain't funny.

I realize that, ...and the teat is about to be switched off.  ;)

Unfortunately, that type of imposition frequently comes up. Many people join network mtkg for many reasons, some join because they want friends, while others join because they want to change their lives financially and make a shitload of money. I focus on those who want to change their lives financially making shitloads of money, ...but you can't avoid the other type who will frequently pretend that is their goal & focus. They want attention, ...but don't merit it, ...and fight like babies to get it.

True story: one year at a convention in Austin Texas, I was having dinner with a guy named Lance. He was hosting the convention that year, cause he was the strongest leader in our host city. He was also an actor with whom I had more than a few things in common, ...and there was a bit of a mutual spark between us. We were seated, dinner had been served, we were already eating, right in the middle of our meal... and this guy came up to the table, and said I saved you a seat over there with Vickie. Talk about an awkward moment. I explained "we've already started eating".  Maybe I can pop by later ...maybe over coffee etc." He kept insisting that I pick up my plate and walk clear across the banquet room to sit with him & Vickie. It was one of the most embarrassing things I had witnessed. Everyone at the table was furiously wiping their mouths with their napkins in order to disguise their overwhelming urge to burst out laughing. The rest of the convention he spent giving Lance the dirtiest looks for the entire time we were there. The next day while having lunch with Lance was even more awkward. He plopped himself down at our table and glowered at him the entire time. The jealousy & covetousness over your time & attention can be more than a little annoying... it's claustrophobic. And we have a global conference coming up this week. He's gonna be in for a helluva shock because the entire time, I'll be hanging with an old friend from Boston that I haven't seen in a while.

Thanks Parker, but no, changing the phone number or calling the police is not an option.
Believe me, I've told him to grow a pair many times.

Having someone "talk with him" is also not an option. He's not an enemy, ...just an annoying parasite. {lol}
I know what I have to do. I'm simply going to allow him to take a good long hard look at the type of man who I respect, and want to hang out with, one who merits my time, attention and respect, ...and allow himself to take a good long hard look at himself in a mirror. Then compare the two.

The Bitch of not answering "Blocked" or "Private" is it will cost you. And you never know just how valuable a stupid call turns out to be. I damn well know that. Its not easy to tell, and you dont know what you threw away.

Ive come close to burning myself out of some real good scores by just this issue.
ANd who knows the "Ones that got away"?

Seems like youve a better plan than a restraing order to me....  ;)  ;D Some need it brutal.
Seems like he's way more than old enough to know better... Have fun, video tape it? Please?

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Re: Ode to baby Mahg: Friend Zone Blues.
« Reply #58 on: September 10, 2007, 05:01:36 PM »
Judi,

I think the correct term is cock-blocking. :)

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Re: Ode to baby Mahg: Friend Zone Blues.
« Reply #59 on: September 10, 2007, 05:28:27 PM »
The Bitch of not answering "Blocked" or "Private" is it will cost you. And you never know just how valuable a stupid call turns out to be. I damn well know that. Its not easy to tell, and you dont know what you threw away.

Oh believe me, I answer the 'Unknown Callers' too. I just tell him I don't. Alot of times foreign numbers will come up as unknown, as will cell phones, and internal calling systems, so I do answer them. I realized that I was living in fear of answering my own phone because of this guy, ...so I simply answer them. If he calls as unknown and I answer it, I just give him shit for not *82'ing and hang up.

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Ive come close to burning myself out of some real good scores by just this issue.
ANd who knows the "Ones that got away"?

I once missed a call 2 months ago from Dan Higginson, the President of Synergy, my previous network mktg company, because I thought it was him, then the next day, I missed a call that I was waiting for from FFi's Director of Operations because I thought it was him, ...so I do answer all calls if I'm here. Speaking of which, ...guess who's calling right now? Yep, ...and it's going into voicemail. {lol}

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Seems like youve a better plan than a restraing order to me....  ;)  ;D Some need it brutal.
Seems like he's way more than old enough to know better... Have fun, video tape it? Please?

No, won't film it. It's gonna be brutal enough... don't want to have to be re-living it 24/7.
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Re: Ode to baby Mahg: Friend Zone Blues.
« Reply #60 on: September 10, 2007, 06:23:23 PM »
Good shooting...

Some PPL dont realize that a phone is an important tool.
Not a game. I had the local PD stop a psyco ex-friend of my family from calling.
She said,  "You wont call the cops!..."    Me,.. Huh... want-a-bet?
The cops told her, "Call again, and you'll have several charges pressed".
Problem solved.

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Re: Ode to baby Mahg: Friend Zone Blues.
« Reply #61 on: September 10, 2007, 09:18:19 PM »
Good shooting...

Some PPL dont realize that a phone is an important tool.
Not a game. I had the local PD stop a psyco ex-friend of my family from calling.
She said,  "You wont call the cops!..."    Me,.. Huh... want-a-bet?
The cops told her, "Call again, and you'll have several charges pressed".
Problem solved.

Oh don't get me wrong, ...I have had people charged in the past,
...but pressing charges against this individual is not an option.
He's getting there, ...I just can't throw the baby out with the bathwater just yet.
I wouldn't mind his phone calls if he kept them strictly to business, without delving into all the other crap.
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Re: Ode to baby Mahg: Friend Zone Blues.
« Reply #62 on: September 10, 2007, 09:26:14 PM »
Oh don't get me wrong, ...I have had people charged in the past,
...but pressing charges against this individual is not an option.
He's getting there, ...I just can't throw the baby out with the bathwater just yet.
I wouldn't mind his phone calls if he kept them strictly to business, without delving into all the other crap.

Judi,

One of the greediest people I've ever met (a lawyer) told me this: Always keep an eye on your greed. Pigs get fat but hogs get slaughtered.

If you're greedy enough to put with this jerk-off to sell a few more gas tablets... be willing to bear equal responsibility for the bullshit that ensues. :)

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Re: Ode to baby Mahg: Friend Zone Blues.
« Reply #63 on: September 10, 2007, 10:12:26 PM »
Judi,

One of the greediest people I've ever met (a lawyer) told me this: Always keep an eye on your greed. Pigs get fat but hogs get slaughtered.

If you're greedy enough to put with this jerk-off to sell a few more gas tablets... be willing to bear equal responsibility for the bullshit that ensues. :)

Jake, it's not about greed at all. It's about the responsibility of sponsorship. I have an obligation to this man.
That's why people don't succeed in network mktg, ...because people bring them in, ...and leave them hanging.
As soon as the person enrolls, they're onto the next person. They basically throw them up against a wall, ...and whatever sticks, they work with. Most people who stick usually fight their way through the confusion pioneering their own trail because their sponsor didn't give them a track to run on. I don't operate like that, neither does anyone on my team. We are the strongest, fastest growing team in all of FFi for a reason. We support our group, and we work together as a team. He's been given the track, a viable proven effective system, and all the support he will ever need, ...he just wants someone to spill his guts to.

As his sponsor & upline, I have a duty to assist him in his business... to help him get to the next level.
The problem is he keeps mixing business with his personal problems and I am NOT his psychiatrist, nor will I be.
He chose me, I didn't choose him. Infact he was furious when he found out I was building a business in Synergy and hadn't told him. What did he do? ...he found out my distributor ID, and enrolled with me as his sponsor. At that point I had already stop building Synergy and was actively building FFi, ...what did he do? ...yep you guessed it.

I had had that discussion with him right from the outset that it would be BUSINESS, ...but he's having difficulty maintaining that. I think he's purposely sabotaging himself because he believes the more help he needs, the more I will be there, ...but his thinking is faulty. He has to deserve it as well as need it. I won't be putting up with it any longer. In 17 years, I've only ever had this sort of problem with one other person... someone from my previous company. I just couldn't stand dealing with them anymore, because they weren't coachable.. Most people would just drop them like a hot potato and let them flounder, ...but I can't do that to people, ...especially not someone who had never been in network mktg before who had just invested $600 just to start. So I simply sponsored someone under their left leg, then sponsored someone under their right leg, and worked with those people. As long as she did her monthly autoship... she made money.

In re-reading what I've written, I realize, it's not really as big a problem as it may appear to you guys. It just occassionally raises it's head, and when it does it drives me bonkers. But I am at a point where he's about to be emotionally cut off, ...and I suppose I'm not looking forward to how devastated I know he is going to be, but I have to bite the bullet and wean him. Just doing a little venting. I'm also in a pissy mood because Brad Pitt, Richard Gere & George Clooney are all in town, have been here since Thursday, ...and I have to hop on a plane.  :'(
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Re: Ode to baby Mahg: Friend Zone Blues.
« Reply #64 on: September 11, 2007, 03:50:36 AM »
Aren't the bottom bricks in a pyramid supposed to be stronger? :)

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Re: Ode to baby Mahg: Friend Zone Blues.
« Reply #65 on: September 11, 2007, 04:36:07 PM »
Aren't the bottom bricks in a pyramid supposed to be stronger? :)

You'd have to ask an architect of pyramids for the correct answer. I wouldn't know.
I don't build pyramids, ...I build legal network mktg organizations.  :)
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Re: Ode to baby Mahg: Friend Zone Blues.
« Reply #66 on: September 11, 2007, 06:02:17 PM »
You'd have to ask an architect of pyramids for the correct answer. I wouldn't know.
I don't build pyramids, ...I build legal network mktg organizations.  :)

I would expect nothing less from a true mistress of semantic obfuscation.