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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #75 on: September 12, 2007, 01:47:45 AM »
I think Dennis has a fantastic physique, but, there are many structural flaws that should hold him back from ever becoming mr. o.

He's only training for about 9 years, that's nothing. Coleman trains for almost 30 years. There's so much more place for improvement on Wolf's physique, I'd say the next 3 to 4 years will show if he's moving in the right direction and will ever be Mr. O or not....

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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #76 on: September 12, 2007, 02:04:16 AM »
He's only training for about 9 years, that's nothing. Coleman trains for almost 30 years. There's so much more place for improvement on Wolf's physique, I'd say the next 3 to 4 years will show if he's moving in the right direction and will ever be Mr. O or not....

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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #77 on: September 12, 2007, 06:53:48 AM »
I agree with hedge on this one....frank zane is an ideal to aspire to

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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #78 on: September 12, 2007, 07:03:20 AM »
The problem with Zane is that there were a few guys at the time who were better and more deserving, except for the added factor of contest politics. Padilla & Nubret for example, were not only better structurally but had a lot more muscle, both significant factors. Nubret didn't compete in the Olympia after '75 in large part due to politics. He would've beaten Zane if in shape, IMO.

Since winning is everything, whoever wins the Olympia receives greater credence than those who don't, no matter the backstories. Zane & Columbu are some of the best examples of guys who were good but not the best in the world the years they won, but they were given wins in the IFBB for a variety of reasons including intangibles we'll never know about, and thus receive more accolades than those who didn't.

Same thing applied to Wheeler and Dillet, though i agree that the biggest factor with Dillet was as gh15 says muscle maturity along with posing, back & not having the look of an Olympia winner (my opinion). It wasn't just one thing like some claim, because any one of those other than muscle maturity wouldn't have been enough to stop him from winning. The weak back argument for example, ignores the fact that all the other guys had at least the same number of flaws and the fact that Dillet's back was better than advertised, except for the lack of detail.

Wolf being white, good looking, articulate & with a good more classic physique satisfies virtually any Weider criteria for winning as he improves.

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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #79 on: September 12, 2007, 07:16:24 AM »
The problem with Zane is that there were a few guys at the time who were better and more deserving, except for the added factor of contest politics. Padilla & Nubret for example, were not only better structurally but had a lot more muscle, both significant factors. Nubret didn't compete in the Olympia after '75 in large part due to politics. He would've beaten Zane if in shape, IMO.

Since winning is everything, whoever wins the Olympia receives greater credence than those who don't, no matter the backstories. Zane & Columbu are some of the best examples of guys who were good but not the best in the world the years they won, but they were given wins in the IFBB for a variety of reasons including intangibles we'll never know about, and thus receive more accolades than those who didn't.

Same thing applied to Wheeler and Dillet, though i agree that the biggest factor with Dillet was as gh15 says muscle maturity along with posing and back; it wasn't just one thing like some claim.

Wolf being white, good looking and having a good more classic physique should help him climb the ladder.
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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #80 on: September 12, 2007, 07:20:33 AM »
Wouldda , couldda , shouldda . Frank Zane 3x Mr O  ;)

Which only confirms that kids like savastase didn't follow BB back then and don't have any understanding of nuance or behind the scenes. It's not nearly as black & white as followers like this like to believe.

Weider & the IFBB always had a strong commercial agenda, selling mags and supplements to guys like this who ate it up without question. ;D

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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #81 on: September 12, 2007, 07:54:55 AM »
Which only confirms that kids like savastase didn't follow BB back then and don't have any understanding of nuance or behind the scenes. It's not nearly as black & white as followers like this like to believe.

Weider & the IFBB always had a strong commercial agenda, selling mags and supplements to guys like this who ate it up without question. ;D
I'm 31 ad 'been following bb since '84 thanks to my father...and I grew up with 3 posters on the wall...Zane , Nubret and Arnold

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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #82 on: September 12, 2007, 08:51:22 AM »
I'm 31 ad 'been following bb since '84 thanks to my father...and I grew up with 3 posters on the wall...Zane , Nubret and Arnold

In other words, i was right. That and your silly 100 mg/day of dbol confirms you have no credibility.

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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #83 on: September 12, 2007, 09:24:43 AM »
In other words, i was right. That and your silly 100 mg/day of dbol confirms you have no credibility.
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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #84 on: September 12, 2007, 09:03:13 PM »
no no no wrong
you cant compare first class bodybuilder such as wolf to a blown up doll such as dillet,,this is a big no no in bodybuilding especially if you got a clue about hormones and their use,,

dillet was a blow up muscle mass,,yes he was symetric among the big boys but his muscle was not mature,,was not developed enough,,and the only thing that worked for him was his phenominal respond to hormone use,,his muscles were never dialed in like top bodybuilder with years upon years in the sport should be even post retirment,,notice even kevin physiqe is phenominal though smaller post retirment,,dillet was just a blow up doll with blessed genetics when it comes to hormone use,,he just blew up right on hormones and never had many years of sweat in the gym,,those guys are dime a dozen and all over the place some better than others like dillet in this case

wolf on the other hand got everything a champ should have inorder to begin thinking about the title,,he has the symetry and the size ,,he already have muscle maturity that is enough for the title,,he is built strong and is strong,,his look is a combination of hard work in the gym and phenominal respond to hormone use in addition to knowing how to use those products for his particular body type,,

wolf as of now is a combination of the iron age arnold with freaky beasts such as dorian,,he will never match ron coleman freakiness but no one will,,but his symetry and size combo will be the best ever seen in bodybuilding in couple years

wolf is couple levels better than dillet at its best,,he will win the o this year or next if comes 100%

Dillet destroyed Wolfe.    Dillet was huge and shredded.  muscle maturity?  ???

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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #85 on: September 12, 2007, 09:09:41 PM »
nah wolf is right now top bodybuilder you will find,,every one who stands next to him feel small,,everyone who sees him is in awe,,he has quality that dillet could never bring,,he unlike dillet wont lose everything post bodybuilding since its power you talking about here,,eastern europians dont lose no foundation because guess what..they have that foundation nailed in like the abc they teach you at age 3,,

only 2 who can take the o from wolf this year are ron and jason and its ONLY due to thickness,,wolf is arnold all over again only improved because he is bringing the condition of dorian into the picture,,

its a matter of this year or next one considering health is ok and come 100% on,,wolf will be mr o
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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #86 on: September 12, 2007, 09:14:16 PM »
Wolf cannot win Mr.O because he is not American...those are the breaks, that said I like him a lot, has to bring up the calves though...
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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #87 on: September 12, 2007, 09:15:55 PM »
His back and his biceps brachialis lack separation.  his back is bit high inserted. Back holds water, calves not big enough for the rest of him.  Plenty flaws, gh.

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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #88 on: September 12, 2007, 09:45:06 PM »
nah wolf is right now top bodybuilder you will find,,every one who stands next to him feel small,,everyone who sees him is in awe,,he has quality that dillet could never bring,,he unlike dillet wont lose everything post bodybuilding since its power you talking about here,,eastern europians dont lose no foundation because guess what..they have that foundation nailed in like the abc they teach you at age 3,,

only 2 who can take the o from wolf this year are ron and jason and its ONLY due to thickness,,wolf is arnold all over again only improved because he is bringing the condition of dorian into the picture,,

its a matter of this year or next one considering health is ok and come 100% on,,wolf will be mr o

LOL Wolf hasn't by far yet the package to be Mr. O. His arms are weak from the front, the weakest calves ever on a pro stage and not enough overall thickness and quality. Maybe in 3-5 years (of hard training with heavy basic hardcore exercises) he can think about a top place at the O, but not earlier. He doesn't stand the slightest chance against guys like Dexter, Tony, Phil or Victor.

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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #89 on: September 13, 2007, 12:40:41 AM »
I think one day he will be a great mr. olympia contestant, but I dont think he deserves to win.  He has structural flaws, and let me repeat myself, structural flaws, that hold him back.  There are certain things that he was given and will never be able to fix no matter how much more mature his muscles appear or how much muscle he gains...

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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #90 on: September 13, 2007, 01:10:15 AM »
dont understand why gh15 is praising wolf so much. I mean he has a great physiqe nice taper etc. but he's not top 5 of the pros.

imo is Wolf is a white mans Dexter Jackson. With the exeption that he doesn't have the good arms that Dexter has..

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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #91 on: September 13, 2007, 01:17:03 AM »
dont understand why gh15 is praising wolf so much.

Because gh15 IS Wolf. ::)

imo is Wolf is a white mans Dexter Jackson. With the exeption that he doesn't have the good arms that Dexter has..

Dex is lightyears ahead of Wolf. Wait till you see them in callouts in 3 weeks. ;) ;D

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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #92 on: September 13, 2007, 01:36:30 AM »
nah wolf is right now top bodybuilder you will find,,every one who stands next to him feel small,,everyone who sees him is in awe,,he has quality that dillet could never bring,,he unlike dillet wont lose everything post bodybuilding since its power you talking about here,,eastern europians dont lose no foundation because guess what..they have that foundation nailed in like the abc they teach you at age 3,,

only 2 who can take the o from wolf this year are ron and jason and its ONLY due to thickness,,wolf is arnold all over again only improved because he is bringing the condition of dorian into the picture,,

its a matter of this year or next one considering health is ok and come 100% on,,wolf will be mr o

gh15, do you believe that when Dennis Wolf will be Mr O, bodybuilding will change in a better way?

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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #93 on: September 13, 2007, 01:41:13 AM »
no no no wrong
you cant compare first class bodybuilder such as wolf to a blown up doll such as dillet,,this is a big no no in bodybuilding especially if you got a clue about hormones and their use,,

dillet was a blow up muscle mass,,yes he was symetric among the big boys but his muscle was not mature,,was not developed enough,,and the only thing that worked for him was his phenominal respond to hormone use,,his muscles were never dialed in like top bodybuilder with years upon years in the sport should be even post retirment,,notice even kevin physiqe is phenominal though smaller post retirment,,dillet was just a blow up doll with blessed genetics when it comes to hormone use,,he just blew up right on hormones and never had many years of sweat in the gym,,those guys are dime a dozen and all over the place some better than others like dillet in this case

wolf on the other hand got everything a champ should have inorder to begin thinking about the title,,he has the symetry and the size ,,he already have muscle maturity that is enough for the title,,he is built strong and is strong,,his look is a combination of hard work in the gym and phenominal respond to hormone use in addition to knowing how to use those products for his particular body type,,

wolf as of now is a combination of the iron age arnold with freaky beasts such as dorian,,he will never match ron coleman freakiness but no one will,,but his symetry and size combo will be the best ever seen in bodybuilding in couple years

wolf is couple levels better than dillet at its best,,he will win the o this year or next if comes 100%

haha what an hilarious post. You write as if you are the authority on BB past and present. 'Wolf win win the O this year or next', lol, says who? You? He is great but Dillet was top 5, not too shabby, and something Wolf is yet to achieve. Wolf is harder yes, but his lines and proportions are worse, although his back is probably better. Anyway, quit writing such assertive, but not necessarily correct, arrogant bullshit. Dillet had calves 10 times Wolf. I think Wolf stands more of a chance maybe in the long run since his condition can be pretty sick, but the tone of your post is nevertheless inexcusable and annoying. Please never post here again. I shouldn't really write any of this since your stupidity is self-evident but I couldn't resist.

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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #94 on: September 13, 2007, 02:16:39 AM »
gh15, do you believe that when Dennis Wolf will be Mr O, bodybuilding will change in a better way?

i dont know,,its a uniqe physiqe that havent been seen in ages on bodybuilding stage,,very big,,very symetric and very conditioned with lots of quality and tiny miny waist,,all i know is you better start practice the name denis wolf because hes next mr o past ron and jason maybe even this year if brings it on 100% on stage and ron and jason not 100%
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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #95 on: September 13, 2007, 02:35:30 AM »
  Wolfe has:

  - High lats.

  - Long torso.

  - Delts that overpower arms.

  - Shitty calves.

  Trust me folks: these are all serious shortcomings for a guy who aspired to the pinnacle title of pro bodybuilding. It's not a problem for winning wmin pro shows or even the Arnold, but the Olympia is a whole other ball game. Then there's the issue of size: Wolfe has a svelte waist, but he shows it at 250 lbs, and 250 lbs is not big enough to become a standard-bearer nowadays.

  The real question is whether he will show his tiny waist with superb conditioning at 270+ lbs, which is what he'll need to win the Olympia. At three weeks out, he can still drop 20+ lbs, so we'll have to wait and see. If comes in with this waist and not much lighter, than he will place in the top four.

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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #96 on: September 13, 2007, 02:36:38 AM »
haha what an hilarious post. You write as if you are the authority on BB past and present. 'Wolf win win the O this year or next', lol, says who? You? He is great but Dillet was top 5, not too shabby, and something Wolf is yet to achieve. Wolf is harder yes, but his lines and proportions are worse, although his back is probably better. Anyway, quit writing such assertive, but not necessarily correct, arrogant bullshit. Dillet had calves 10 times Wolf. I think Wolf stands more of a chance maybe in the long run since his condition can be pretty sick, but the tone of your post is nevertheless inexcusable and annoying. Please never post here again. I shouldn't really write any of this since your stupidity is self-evident but I couldn't resist.

i am authority on bodybuilding,,dillet was never top 5 bodybuilder in the world,,he was top 10 about same level as milos with milos being better,,he was a big baloon of hormonized blown muscle with very short career,,he was zero from the back and phenominal from the front yet nothing on him was as a result of hard work in gym,,

to compare dillet to wolf is like to compare heath to arnold,,,you can compare but thats where it ends,,when you see bodybuilders such as arnold and wolf you stand in awe,,it is a very uniqe structure that is born to be bodybuilder with tiny waist and very big muscle diameter,,wolf still lack thickness same as tony and when i say thickness i mean 3 dimention illusion to the physiqe,,but it is getting there,i say it again wold is a combo of the iron age arnold with the modern age dorian,,wolf will be the next mr o and will be unbeatable for many years to come,,heath will do well but will never beat him up due to chest amd narrow structure,,vic will be his competition for the title but vic has oil in him already and that cant help him much,,see mr ken wheeler

now when it comes to dex,,he is the top bodybuilder in the world if you dont take size into consideration and height means size,,dex is second to none when it comes to quality of physiqe but is simply too small for the ifbb to award the title to unless he comes 100% on and the rest are off,,then it will happen,,the chances of that are very little

i suggest you pratice the name denis wolf because he is everything gunter couldnt become to the 10th degree,,trust me the ifbb wants him as mr o,,its a matter of being in usa wich is no problem and matter of speaking and writing english which he does better than the average american :)

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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #97 on: September 13, 2007, 02:57:35 AM »
i am authority on bodybuilding,,dillet was never top 5 bodybuilder in the world,,he was top 10 about same level as milos with milos being better,,he was a big baloon of hormonized blown muscle with very short career,,he was zero from the back and phenominal from the front yet nothing on him was as a result of hard work in gym,,

to compare dillet to wolf is like to compare heath to arnold,,,you can compare but thats where it ends,,when you see bodybuilders such as arnold and wolf you stand in awe,,it is a very uniqe structure that is born to be bodybuilder with tiny waist and very big muscle diameter,,wolf still lack thickness same as tony and when i say thickness i mean 3 dimention illusion to the physiqe,,but it is getting there,i say it again wold is a combo of the iron age arnold with the modern age dorian,,wolf will be the next mr o and will be unbeatable for many years to come,,heath will do well but will never beat him up due to chest amd narrow structure,,vic will be his competition for the title but vic has oil in him already and that cant help him much,,see mr ken wheeler




  I can't believe that I'm agreeing with GH15. Dillet never impressed me at all, except for his huge arms and freaky varicose veins in his pecs that were completely devoid of thickness. A look at him could tell you that he was a machine trainer. Why? It's very simple: machines can widen your physique and shapen it, but they give you no muscle thickness.

  I don't know why this happens, but I think that the coordination and effort that it takes to balance free weights hits the inner fibers of the muscle while machines only hit superficial fibers, and hitting the inner fibers is the only way to acquire muscle thickness. I have never seen a guy get thick pecs by doing only pec deck flies; a wide chest, yes, but not thick. Likewise, I've never seen a guy get thick lats by doing only machine pushdowns, only wide lats. To get thick lats, dumbbell, barbell and T-rows are a must.

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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #98 on: September 13, 2007, 03:05:19 AM »
  I can't believe that I'm agreeing with GH15. Dillet never impressed me at all, except for his huge arms and freaky varicose veins in his pecs that were were completely devoid of thickness. A look at him could tell you that he was a machine trainer. Why? It's very simple: machines can widen your physique and shapen it, but they give you no muscle thickness.

  I don't know why this happens, but I think that the coordination and effort that it takes to balance free weights hits the inner fibers of the muscle while machines only hit superficial fibers, and hitting the inner fibers is the only way to acquire muscle thickness. I have never seen a guy get thick pecs by doing only pec deck flies; a wide chest, yes, but not thick. Likewise, I've never seen a guy get thick lats by doing only machine pushdowns, only wide lats. To get thick lats, dumbbell, barbell and T-rows are a must.

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Dillet defined the word thickness.

Only he lacked thickness in the back. Add to the fact that he was the worst poser in the history next to Pavol didn't help hitting the back shots.

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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #99 on: September 13, 2007, 03:08:01 AM »
LOL

Dillet defined the word thickness.

Only he lacked thickness in the back. Add to the fact that he was the worst poser in the history next to Pavol didn't help hitting the back shots.

  Wrong. Don't be a moron. Dillet had no muscle thickness whatsoever. His pecs were flat like dishes and his back had the thickness of a local amateur competitor. Don't confuse the varicose veins in his pecs for thickness, because they were not. The only places where Dillet had real size were in his legs and arms.

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