Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia

[slaveboy1980]

I'll agree Dillett had a better structure than Yates , in fact Dillett had a better structure than almost everyone , Dillett was very rare because he was tall ( 6'1" ) had outstanding symmetry in all aspects , he had naturally wide clavicles , small waist & hips coupled with small joints and outstanding balance & proportion between muscles he had long full muscle bellies and great natural shape , however from a competitive bodybuilding standpoint Dillett left a lot to be desired in terms of muscularity , muscle density and conditioning and posing presentation , he was an outstanding a very rare specimen in the world of bodybuilding .

good post, i agree with most of it...except for the word "a lot"..i would instead say "some".

remember everyone has flaws...in my opinion...dillet wins from the front and yates from the back. dillet wins by his superior structure and his superior legs...
calves are almost equal..as both have amazing calves (altho i would give the nod to yates when it comes to calves)

[gh15]

gh15, after reading your rather lengthy response...i am convinced you're a dumbass.

dillet has more of the "total package" than wolfe x10.  wolfe has shitty genetics and i doubt he will make it far.  just because YOU want to look like wolfe, doesnt mean he is olympia material. 

you apparently think you are some sort of guru on judging bodybuilding physiques...

dillet wasnt as good as ronnie (b/c ronnie had a more complete physique), but he is 10x better than wolfe. 

its funny you even use arguments like that's not what you are judged on during the show, so why even state that as if it matters.  you assume he had no work ethics.  i have heard flex wheeler had no drive also, but you're judged on your physique and not on how intense your workouts may or may not appear to be. 

every once in a while a bodybuilder with phenominal genetic response to hormones jumps into the swamp hoping to be the best and in every single time that bodybuilder fails,,

dillet is the superstar of this failures but guess what,,he failed!
canadian frank although not at dillets level failed and will not do anything with his pro card
chris cook,,the white dillet,,failed and never to be seen again on stage
aron failed and never to be seen again on stage


there is a big big big big diff between someone who has phenominal reponse to hormones and dont do shit with it to someone who has phenominal reponse to hormones and do shit with it,,aka,,garey,,mike mataraza,,lee apperson which won i think 6 in master o with less than marvelous genetics but knew his shit when it comes to hormones and training,,,ken wheeler which was a slob but he payed his time in the gym big time! and at time he was very serious about training,,chris which loved to party but also payed lots of time in gym for many many years it didnt come to him easy as you think,,one look at chris physiqe at his best comparing to dillet shows you the enourmous diff between the 2 when it comes to time payed in the gym

dillet is a diff story,,a guy that had big arms big legs and thats where it ends,,he was very good and freaky looking for the 90s and it has to do a lot with his height same as gunter,,,rthe diff is gunter was working his asssssss in the gym trust me on that goonnter was standing infront of the mirror practicing posing for hours upon hours,,dillet...a diff story

yes dillet made ray look small true,,but the quality of the physiqe that ray had on his frame was diff leage,,

so to conclude this stupid remark of yours,,

denis wolf is more of a ray and arnold rather than dillet,,
heath is more of a dillet but has 10 times better workj ethics and thats why he will get to places dillet never been

it sounds like i trash dillet and im not trying to,,what i do is making sure you know dillet place in bodybuilding history,,his place is among the freaks that came and go,,he was a freak and freaks can do some damage but in the scheme of things they are not considered the best this sport has to offer no matter how big their arms are

thank you and now let me go trying to look like wolf....good lord help you my friend

[pumpster]

Yates could pose most certainly better than Dillett he wasn't a fluid poser like Makkawy or Labrada but he had a mastery of the mandatory poses , Dorian had biceps good ones not great by any means and Dillett's back was a major liability it was wide and thats it , it lacked depth , separation , thickness and his inability pose is legendary not to mention constantly bending over after each shot , what good is having a fantastic physique if you can't properly display it? and lets not mention his conditioning which was hit or miss.

Classic one-dimensional analysis mentioning Dillet's back, neglecting to acknowledge Yates and others for their equivalent flaws. Dillet won front and side regardless.

[Deicide]

Classic one-dimensional analysis mentioning Dillet's back, neglecting to acknowledge Yates and others for their equivalent flaws. Dillet won front and side regardless.

Why is no one talking about Flex and his weaknesses... ?

[gh15]

you keep mentioning arms...as if that is all he had.  look at the pictures...he had arms, quads, calves, shoulders, hamstring, chest was good(not great).  he was weak somewhat in the back.  he had symmetry and long muscle bellies.  everyone has "some" flaws.  you act as if his only positive were big arms.  if you think he was just a freak who responded well to drugs, then that's your opinion. 

as far as wolfe goes...i think he looks good, but has too many flaws to ever be mr. olympia.  he has tiny calves, high lats, and terrible arms.  if he ever is able to fix those weak points, then he would have a chance, but its difficult to overcome weakpoints that are most likely genetic.  it doesnt matter how much you talk about muscle maturity or him looking like a golden era bodybuilder, which i disagree with both, those things dont make up for an incomplete physique.  he doesnt have the total package, and without taking care of those weak points, he never will.

28 years old,,already pro win going and top placings going in other shows,,arms are not the stuff ifbb looks at when it comes to finding mr o as of 2007,,,arms is part of a package that must be there,,jason dorian and haney had same or worse arms than wolf,,those arms are not his strongest point but i assure you if the delts werent that strong the arms would be much more noticable,,,wolf got massive massive massive arms with average shape but in the total picture it fits the physiqe perfectly,,everything is symetric like a painting,,he is big dexter with same problem in the calves,,big dexter = mr olympia,,meanwhile dillet arms were overpowering everything on his body,,EVERYTHING,,yes he had good delts but only because he was a big freaky guy,,he had and still has those shoulders it didnt take no training it was all repond to hormones,,llook at him in general he is just a big tall fella,,big black brother tall fella but that doesnt mean you are better than a guy like labrada zane gaspari  and now wolf that were light years better than dillet

denis and i can assure you this first hand,,had to develop what he has,,he put foundation in it,,the basics are dialed in and now the drugs are takjiung it to olympia title sooner or later,,its a promise,,only 9-10 serious years training,,this is,,unlike in kamali case,,the quiet before the storm,,big storm,,woff is gonna be the best white bodybuilder to date the equivelent of dorian yates with a hell of alot better symetry iron age style,,it is zane and arnold physiqe taken to the dorian level,,mark my words and date

but i respect your opinion since you presented it with style in the last post,,let time show whos right my friend

[suckmymuscle]

  Getbig is arguably the greatest collection of stupid people on the internet. How can they say that Dillet didn't lack muscle thickness when he disappeared from the sides The dumb people here confuse Dillet's varicose veins for chest thickness, which it is not. Dillet's pecs were very thin, the result of doing nothing more than cable cross-overs and pec deck flyes in the gym. Likewise, his lats lacked thickness because he did nothing but pulldowns in the gym. That's why Dillet looked very wide from the front but disappeared when he turned to the sides. The only things that were big on him were his legs and arms.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[affeman]

The only chance for Wolf to get a sondow is to steal it from Jay

[webcake]

FUCK!!
Wolf's shoulders are gigantic in that shot.

[gh15]

The only chance for Wolf to get a sondow is to steal it from Jay

atleast you shoudl have tried to put a picture of him next to ron,,then it would be a match since ron got the size of muscle to stand next to wolf,,

you just put a picture here that shows everything i said and thank you for that,,you showed a picture of jason the champ that only has one thing bigger than wolf,,you know what it is? THE BELLIE THE GUT THE STOMACK THE WAIST,,oh yes calves also how could i forget ,,as much as i like jason he stand as the lowest ever champ in bodybuilding history together with good ole franco all his size is one big thicness of muscle mass,,he got determination and work ethics but his physiqe can be concluded with 2 simple words and it is big and thick,,nothing else but big and thick,

any human being even ones who dont know 2 shits about bodybuilding can easily see that wolf at 28 already surpass jason in muscle size,,no not gut size,,,muscle size,,jason got 30 extra lb in one and only one place and it is the bello,,the organs are huge,,the bellie is big and wide and only reason it looks still acceptable is because his torso is endless too when it comes to widness,,

take a look at the picture again,,look at the gut and waist,,,being mr o is nice and good and everything is fine,,but wolf make jason look like a fat short guy with big calves,,powerlifter style with out the powerfull look due to ........oil! if you want to be honest,,sorry but this is the truth,,at age 28 he is ready for the title and make jason look real bad there for being MR OLYMPIA,,this is not local champ we talking about here,,this is THE MISTER OLYMPIA!!

only thing jason have on him is thickness in couple bodyparts and 30 extra lb in the bello,,that is it,,so im tellin you again wolf will be mr o and not at age 34,,it will be before 30 and it will be a memorable champ with big muscles and tiny waist like it should be in BODY BUILDING! the continuation of ron 98 is coming in the form of wolf i promise you


*by the way,,take a look at the forarms in the picture you posted,,the champ and a 28 year old wolf,,,if it wasnt sad id be laughing,,the sooner they give him the title the better this sport will get,,he is the best bodybuilder in the world now days

[Bobby]

atleast you shoudl have tried to put a picture of him next to ron,,then it would be a match since ron got the size of muscle to stand next to wolf,,

you just put a picture here that shows everything i said and thank you for that,,you showed a picture of jason the champ that only has one thing bigger than wolf,,you know what it is? THE BELLIE THE GUT THE STOMACK THE WAIST,,oh yes calves also how could i forget ,,as much as i like jason he stand as the lowest ever champ in bodybuilding history together with good ole franco all his size is one big thicness of muscle mass,,he got determination and work ethics but his physiqe can be concluded with 2 simple words and it is big and thick,,nothing else but big and thick,

any human being even ones who dont know 2 shits about bodybuilding can easily see that wolf at 28 already surpass jason in muscle size,,no not gut size,,,muscle size,,jason got 30 extra lb in one and only one place and it is the bello,,the organs are huge,,the bellie is big and wide and only reason it looks still acceptable is because his torso is endless too when it comes to widness,,

take a look at the picture again,,look at the gut and waist,,,being mr o is nice and good and everything is fine,,but wolf make jason look like a fat short guy with big calves,,powerlifter style with out the powerfull look due to ........oil! if you want to be honest,,sorry but this is the truth,,at age 28 he is ready for the title and make jason look real bad there for being MR OLYMPIA,,this is not local champ we talking about here,,this is THE MISTER OLYMPIA!!

only thing jason have on him is thickness in couple bodyparts and 30 extra lb in the bello,,that is it,,so im tellin you again wolf will be mr o and not at age 34,,it will be before 30 and it will be a memorable champ with big muscles and tiny waist like it should be in BODY BUILDING! the continuation of ron 98 is coming in the form of wolf i promise you


*by the way,,take a look at the forarms in the picture you posted,,the champ and a 28 year old wolf,,,if it wasnt sad id be laughing,,the sooner they give him the title the better this sport will get,,he is the best bodybuilder in the world now days

viel Glück Herr Wolf!!

[Bear]

gh15, after reading your rather lengthy response...i am convinced you're a dumbass.

dillet has more of the "total package" than wolfe x10.  wolfe has shitty genetics and i doubt he will make it far.  just because YOU want to look like wolfe, doesnt mean he is olympia material. 

you apparently think you are some sort of guru on judging bodybuilding physiques...

dillet wasnt as good as ronnie (b/c ronnie had a more complete physique), but he is 10x better than wolfe. 

its funny you even use arguments like that's not what you are judged on during the show, so why even state that as if it matters.  you assume he had no work ethics.  i have heard flex wheeler had no drive also, but you're judged on your physique and not on how intense your workouts may or may not appear to be. 

I second this. Also, I don't know why GH15 insists Dillet was never 5th at the Olympia, why debate a known truth.


Also insanely thick delts, legs, CALVES and arms, and traps, do no constitute a lack of thickness. Chest to back thickness perhaps maybe, but this should not be generalised to overall thickness.

[donrhummy]

The only chance for Wolf to get a sondow is to steal it from Jay

Wolf does not look small next to Jay. His shoulders look bigger than Jay's and we all know his waist is smaller. 

Wolf needs to improve his chest, back and calves (and biceps a little) and he'd be unbeatable.

[Kegdrainer]

awesome lat to waist taper in the rear spread...
shoulders do dwarf the arms in certain poses though...needs more fullness in the triceps and more forearms to complete the package up top i think


at 280 though that is sick...top 6 at the O if hes lucky.

[slaveboy1980]

  Getbig is arguably the greatest collection of stupid people on the internet. How can they say that Dillet didn't lack muscle thickness when he disappeared from the sides The dumb people here confuse Dillet's varicose veins for chest thickness, which it is not. Dillet's pecs were very thin, the result of doing nothing more than cable cross-overs and pec deck flyes in the gym. Likewise, his lats lacked thickness because he did nothing but pulldowns in the gym. That's why Dillet looked very wide from the front but disappeared when he turned to the sides. The only things that were big on him were his legs and arms.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

stupid? lol just because we dont agree with you.

its true dillet didnt have the biggest chest or back nor had he the best posing ability. but despite that..i think he was a better bodybuilder than yates was.

simple as that.

[Bear]

I second this. Also, I don't know why GH15 insists Dillet was never 5th at the Olympia, why debate a known truth.


Also insanely thick delts, legs, CALVES and arms, and traps, do no constitute a lack of thickness. Chest to back thickness perhaps maybe, but this should not be generalised to overall thickness.

Bump for how right I am.

Suckmymuscle, I find it amusing how your quasi-intellectual pretentions compell you to presume inside-out knowledge of Dillet's workouts. He obviously did presses and obviously put some serious gym time in to get his physique. Don't include yourself in the moronic masses who assert how guys like Dillet and Flex simply looked at a gym, then became top 5 in the world. Even if they had different work ethics to guys like Dorian and Ronnie, don't you think when they were being told 'just more back thickness and you'll be Mr O', or whatever, that they trained their back damn hard. Lee Priest certainly gets damn pissed off with ignoramouses asking him why he doesn't train chest harder. The truth is he trains it hard it just doesn't repond like his arms.

Again, thick thick delts, quads, calves, tris, bis, and DELTS do not a shallow physique make. CHEST-TO-BACK thickness is but ONE aspect of any assessment.

[WOOO]

dillett was crap...

[Pollux]

And Ron said this cat won't make top 10 at the Olympia?

Shame on you, Ron.

[Old-Skool]

With so many "Holes" in his physique....no calves, poor lower quads, no back thickness, high lats.....he will look like a swimmer against tanks like Coleman and Cutler. Has some freaky bodyparts but your dreamng that this guy challenges for the "o" now or maybe ever. Wake up boys.

[suckmymuscle]

Bump for how right I am.Suckmymuscle, I find it amusing how your quasi-intellectual pretentions compell you to presume inside-out knowledge of Dillet's workouts.

  I only know about his workouts from I read in magazines and from what his fellow competitors said. All the training routines for Dillet that I read in FLEX, Muscle&Fitness, MuscleMag, Ironman and MD showed that he did nothing but cable crossovers and pec deck flyes for chest and lots of pulldowns for back. Nothing from what I've read and from testimonials from his fellow competitors indicate that he trained hard in the gym - compare this to what the other bodybuilders say about Ronnie and his ferocious intensity in the gym.

  He obviously did presses and obviously put some serious gym time in to get his physique. Don't include yourself in the moronic masses who assert how guys like Dillet and Flex simply looked at a gym, then became top 5 in the world.

  No, I am including you in the moronic masses. Dillet became top 5 in the World - although I'd rather say top 8 - due to his absolutely freakish genetics and drug use. Nothing more. There are tons of guys at my local gym who train much harder than he ever did.

  Even if they had different work ethics to guys like Dorian and Ronnie, don't you think when they were being told 'just more back thickness and you'll be Mr O', or whatever, that they trained their back damn hard.

  No, I don't. And this is exactly why they never achieved great backs or pecs. Dorian once asked Flex why he didn't do barbell rows and he said that it was because it made him windy. This despite the fact that Flex knew that he needed more back thickess to defeat Dorian and then Ronnie. Some guys are just plain lazy. Guys like Dillet.

  Lee Priest certainly gets damn pissed off with ignoramouses asking him why he doesn't train chest harder. The truth is he trains it hard it just doesn't repond like his arms.

  Lee Priest does train very hard, but his problem is of a different nature: overtraining. He does up to 30 sets for pecs and that's too much even for an anabolic user. He would dramatically increase his pec thickness if he maintained his intensity in the gym but did fewer sets.

Again, thick thick delts, quads, calves, tris, bis, and DELTS do not a shallow physique make. CHEST-TO-BACK thickness is but ONE aspect of any assessment.

  Width and shape are not special. Anyone can get wider and more shapely muscles with machine work, but real beef only comes to those who use barbells&dumbbells. Training with barbell&dumbbells is what separates the real bodybuilders from the pretty boy models. Training with barbells&dumbbells is the only way to pack lots of muscle - even with sauce.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[slaveboy1980]

  I only know about his workouts from I read in magazines and from what his fellow competitors said. All the training routines for Dillet that I read in FLEX, Muscle&Fitness, MuscleMag, Ironman and MD showed that he did nothing but cable crossovers and pec deck flyes for chest and lots of pulldowns for back. Nothing from what I've read and from testimonials from his fellow competitors indicate that he trained hard in the gym - compare this to what the other bodybuilders say about Ronnie and his ferocious intensity in the gym.

he did more than flyes and crossovers....but yes his chest and back was lagging because the rest of him was enormous


  No, I am including you in the moronic masses. Dillet became top 5 in the World - although I'd rather say top 8 - due to his absolutely freakish genetics and drug use. Nothing more. There are tons of guys at my local gym who train much harder than he ever did.
doesnt matter if millions worked harder than him....its about the physique

  No, I don't. And this is exactly why they never achieved great backs or pecs. Dorian once asked Flex why he didn't do barbell rows and he said that it was because it made him windy. This despite the fact that Flex knew that he needed more back thickess to defeat Dorian and then Ronnie. Some guys are just plain lazy. Guys like Dillet.
 

  Lee Priest does train very hard, but his problem is of a different nature: overtraining. He does up to 30 sets for pecs and that's too much even for an anabolic user. He would dramatically increase his pec thickness if he maintained his intensity in the gym but did fewer sets.

bullshit, lees pecs are (relatively) small because of poor torso genetics and overpowering delts, not due to overtraining

  Width and shape are not special. Anyone can get wider and more shapely muscles with machine work, but real beef only comes to those who use barbells&dumbbells. Training with barbell&dumbbells is what separates the real bodybuilders from the pretty boy models. Training with barbells&dumbbells is the only way to pack lots of muscle - even with sauce.

he did incline barbell press for example which is a free weigth exercise....dillets main problem was that he didnt work hard enough to bring up his lagging muscle parts, true..but it had more to do lack of effort than machines vs free weights and inability to feel the pecs contracting

SUCKMYMUSCLE

still he was better than yates. only a levrone, ray ..in top shape could rival him in the 90s.

[suckmymuscle]

still he was better than yates. only a levrone, ray ..in top shape could rival him in the 90s.

  Hey, retard, why are you replying to my post? It wasn't addressed to you, and you are wrong on all counts. Example: I never contested that what matters is the physique, only stating the obvious fact that Dillet's physique was due to incredible genetics and tons of drugs, and that there are lots of guys that train much harder but who are much smaller. He made the argument that Dillet must have trained very hard because he was one of the top 5 bodybuilders in the World; I proved him wrong by showing that you don't need to train hard to be one of the top 5 bodybuilders in the World when you are a genetic titan who uses anabolics. Stop quoting me out of context!

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NarcissisticDeity]

Classic one-dimensional analysis mentioning Dillet's back, neglecting to acknowledge Yates and others for their equivalent flaws. Dillet won front and side regardless.

Thats not one-dimensional thats blatantly obvious and a major liability which prevented him from beating many people coupled with his other flaws in posing & presentation and on/off conditioning , Dillett may have won from the front and side in terms of structure and shape but when all the criteria is applied he didn't win from the front , side or back . classic example of counting the pluses while ignoring the misses .

others has flaws no doubt but their strengths compensated for them .

[WOOO]

And Ron said this cat won't make top 10 at the Olympia?

Shame on you, Ron.

meh he just forgot about him... i hope 

[slaveboy1980]

  Hey, retard, why are you replying to my post? It wasn't addressed to you, and you are wrong on all counts. Example: I never contested that what matters is the physique, only stating the obvious fact that Dillet's physique was due to incredible genetics and tons of drugs, and that there are lots of guys that train much harder but who are much smaller. He made the argument that Dillet must have trained very hard because he was one of the top 5 bodybuilders in the World; I proved him wrong by showing that you don't need to train hard to be one of the top 5 bodybuilders in the World when you are a genetic titan who uses anabolics. Stop quoting me out of context!

SUCKMYMUSCLE

hahahhaha, watch your blood pressure. im correct on ALL points i made. lee priest has small chest cuz its overtrained....?   

and it not quoting out of context, as the context was mr dillet.

[haider]

hahahhaha, watch your blood pressure. im correct on ALL points i made. lee priest has small chest cuz its overtrained....?   

and it not quoting out of context, as the context was mr dillet.

he does have a tendency to say some really ridiculous things.. lets see here:  Kovacs pressing the 300's, Lee overtraining his chest, Dillet lacking thickness etc oh and lets not forget Dorian > Ronnie