No doubt.
My knowledge of the 9/11 conspiracy movement and related arguments and issues were rooted in a 4 month or so exchange i had with 240 on this about a year ago. While i don't share 240's conclusions, I learned a great deal from him and others about 9/11 and why there are questions about the official stories.
I never got that deep into that question and am assuming it was done. I'm not that motivated to find out although i can ask some friend of mind where i might find that info next time i talk to them.
My conclusions have since evolved.
The FBI has said in court filings by its own people that there were 85 pentagon camera angles. Pentagon said "only those still frames from two cameras - all other cameras malfunctioned". You can choose who to believe.
They never rebuilt the 2 planes from Shanksville, or Pentagon. You tell me why. NTSB, FAA, federal regulations all REQUIRE IT. You tell me why.
Rudy didn't pull a crime scene on the towers, in violation of federal law. Spitzer didn't prosecute. They both got rich promotions
You tell me why.
I'll tell you why. Cause Americans are too dumb to understand global economics and energy, and cause those in charge here wanted to make their friends richer. We needed to tap Iraqi oil, and afghan was outr step in the door (plus afghan oil).
911 was under-investigated. This was intentional. 911 wrapped up many loose ends and gave us ability to declare wars we needed. Stark - I saw a post you made about the US empire nearing end - I disagree - our Hunt oil company just signed a deal with the Kurds. Yes, texas now control oil exploration rights in the oil-rich north.
Don't tell me it's not about oil anymore. Greenspan admitted it. ROve admitted there were no WMD. Are those two men now libs too?
Look, we're conquerors in a world where we no longer have sustainable competitive advantages. If we can get their oil, I support the fucking war. If you are willing to sign up to go, that is your choice. So be it. Not many people here would end the war and bring strangers home if it meant $15 per gallon in gas. So let the troops fight. Let the war go on indefinitely - as it was planned.
I said it 2 years ago - Iraq wasn't designed to win - just to keep chaos long enough to 1) run up bills to make companies rich, and 2) Keep sustained chaos long enough to justify the 80% oil laws being put into effect. US firms get paid well from them.
Thats why I quit following politics, and why frankly, I support the war now.
We're conquerors and we're taking their fcking oil. You can be a dummy and tell me it's about WMD. You can say 911 was 19 arabs bringing down 8 buildings. Sure. You believe that.
Back to your topic - I believe that white plane photographed in the air afterwards (youve seen the pics right? white AWAC) buzzed the pentagon and put the projectile into the building.
I'm not sure. I'd be interested in knowing the answer and if they didn't i would first conclude that's it's because much of it vaporized due to the fact is was full of fuel.
SOrry - jet fuel can't burn hot enough to vaporize steel and titanium. Please show me one plane crash in history where the plane "vaporized". They shred, baby. SHould have been bodies and debris for blocks. Blood. Fire. luggage. You feel me?
SHit, there was 1 identical clean hole thru all three buildings, and enough debris on the unscathed lawn to fit in teh back of a pickup truck. Reporters begged for days "we see no plane, mr rumsfeld". Initial walkthru's - no plane. Then the army men inside carried out something under a blue tarp. Missile fuselage? Who knows.
zogby 2007 - two thirds of americans believe WTC7 was controlled demo.
zogby 2007 - 51% of americans believe GB?DC were involved in 911.
Our generation will know but that shit doesnt matter. History will blame 19 arabs - and somehow saddam - and they'll never talk about the poor investigation after 441 days.
LOL... how did I get sucked back into this 911 stuff?
It's old news now. World knows it was an inside job. Everyone in DC knows. Everyone at colleges, workplaces knows. From 06 to 07, a great deals of blanks/hispanics populations learned (trickle down from the web from schools?)
Loose change final cut - part 3 - is supposed to be undebunkable - everything on that tape was evidence presented by the govt itself - no supposition whatsoever. It'll prove the case to those who still believe 'official story'.
And it wont matter. Everyone will retire, we'll ahve 3 wars to tangle with. But we'll fuck the chinese with our oil baby. And we'll stay a stonger america for anoter 50 years.
we're all conquerors, baby. would you support invading X nation if it meant you could live in a mansion? Yes. WOuld you support it if it meant NOT living in a hut? yes. They'd do it to us if they could. It's not morally right - but govts use a utilitarian compass. And while your morals hurt, you know deep down, you're glad they're getting their hands dirty so you can live well.
Rant off. have a nice day lol...