whoever thinks that not taking a shake post workout is better then taking one is a fucking retard...plain and simple...its 40 grams more protein in your daily diet...and it restores depleted glycogen. I can only see good things coming from those two factors.
and also ronnie coleman eats whole food about an hour after he works out...he said that he doesn't have a shake after his workouts because hes done it before and he can't keep it down after his brutal workouts
its not like he eats a bucket of chicken and rice right after he trains. Im sure he take a shot of slin and 100 grams of dextrose PWO...so he's not exactly the best example of a guy eating whole food all the time.
i dont think anyone was arguing against eating or taking a shake after workout...its more that some people think supplements will give them steroidlike effects,also most supplements are bs.
eating regular food vs a whey/malto shake wont make any difference.
science has also showed that eating before a workout and having "protein in your blood" is as important as eating straight after.
lets not forget that most people workout once a day and they will have atleast 24 hour to replenish glycogen stores after the workout
so what im saying you should def eat before and after you workout...but dont get obsessed with supplements.
the optimal thing would probably be to drink some kind of protein/carb drink during the workout too..but im not sure it would make any practical difference.