why do some bodybuilders heads/hands grow?

[BayGBM]

 

[LWGA]

HGH obviously does nothing for penile size. If it did the olympia guys would be packing bigtime (no homo) which they don't!

I ran GH for about 15 months....never more than 4IUs a day.  I can no longer wear my wedding band, and my penis increased in girth by over half an inch.  The length did not change at all.  Yes...I measured before and after.  I went on to gain lean muscle mass, but I was just as curious about this side effect. 

I had been told that GH alone was a waste....that it was just a REALLY expensive fat burner.  Believe me when I say that's Bull!  Legit GH (I was on prescribed HRT) will do wonders.

The newbie

[Reeves]

Basically, it is a side effect of the use (especially where unwarranted) and abuse of human growth hormones.  Acromegaly is the result of an overactive pituitary gland producing too much growth hormone (think of the gigantism and its attendant effects as shown in the late wrestler Andre' the Giant) and ultimatley results in the continued growth of the ears, nose, lips, hands and feet.  Artificially pumping yourself full of human growth hormone long after epiphyseal (SP?) bone growth has terminated results in your not growing any taller, but quite often you become somewhat acromegalic in appearance.  The effects are, I believe, irreversible. 

I believe that you gentlemen have given this hideous (and in the case of bodybuilders, self-inflicted) condition a name:  Palumboism.

[gib]

Agree

[andreisdaman]

I ran GH for about 15 months....never more than 4IUs a day.  I can no longer wear my wedding band, and my penis increased in girth by over half an inch.  The length did not change at all.  Yes...I measured before and after.  I went on to gain lean muscle mass, but I was just as curious about this side effect. 

I had been told that GH alone was a waste....that it was just a REALLY expensive fat burner.  Believe me when I say that's Bull!  Legit GH (I was on prescribed HRT) will do wonders.

The newbie

so you were already on HRT and you decided to take GH as well?....or was the GH prescribed too?.....how old are you?

[LWGA]

so you were already on HRT and you decided to take GH as well?....or was the GH prescribed too?.....how old are you?

The GH was part of the HRT.  I also ran low doses of test (1/2 cc per week).  I'm 45 years old.  I think I'm really receptive to GH and test.  My strength really increased, my weight increased (gained about 20 pounds), and my body fat dropped significantly (around 7 percent).  The thing I regret is that I didn't eat clean most of the time (lots and lots of fast food). 

I don't want to push drugs on anyone, but done the right way, they can be a huge boost.  I'm required to have regular blood work done, and everything checks out good.  Interesting enough, during my last blood work eval, the doc said, "You must eat really health." 

[andreisdaman]

The GH was part of the HRT.  I also ran low doses of test (1/2 cc per week).  I'm 45 years old.  I think I'm really receptive to GH and test.  My strength really increased, my weight increased (gained about 20 pounds), and my body fat dropped significantly (around 7 percent).  The thing I regret is that I didn't eat clean most of the time (lots and lots of fast food). 

I don't want to push drugs on anyone, but done the right way, they can be a huge boost.  I'm required to have regular blood work done, and everything checks out good.  Interesting enough, during my last blood work eval, the doc said, "You must eat really health." 

cool..and how do I get a doc to prescribe GH for me?

[LWGA]

cool..and how do I get a doc to prescribe GH for me?

I can PM you the contact info for the clinic.  However, I must warn you, they aren't one of the "anything goes" type of facility.  They will not work with you with out a proper screening and extensive blood work.  Earlier this year, I accidentally threw away about 30 needles.  I explained this to them, and asked for replacements (at my cost).  They wouldn't do it.  It kind of pissed me off, especially when you consider how much money I've spent with them.  They explained that many folks will use additional drugs and that they cannot support this in any way.  I was still pissed, but couldn't really argue with them. 

I've recently heard on the news that there were thousands and thousands scripts written for HRTs.   I'm not naive.   I understand that a lot of folks get scripts through bogus reasons.  I just don't think this facility is one of them....could be wrong, but I don't think so.

[andreisdaman]

I can PM you the contact info for the clinic.  However, I must warn you, they aren't one of the "anything goes" type of facility.  They will not work with you with out a proper screening and extensive blood work.  Earlier this year, I accidentally threw away about 30 needles.  I explained this to them, and asked for replacements (at my cost).  They wouldn't do it.  It kind of pissed me off, especially when you consider how much money I've spent with them.  They explained that many folks will use additional drugs and that they cannot support this in any way.  I was still pissed, but couldn't really argue with them. 

I've recently heard on the news that there were thousands and thousands scripts written for HRTs.   I'm not naive.   I understand that a lot of folks get scripts through bogus reasons.  I just don't think this facility is one of them....could be wrong, but I don't think so.

thanks, but I would rather get it through my own doc....what approach should I use to ask for it?

[Reeves]

thanks, but I would rather get it through my own doc....what approach should I use to ask for it?

Unless you are a certified midget, i.e., a homunculus whose epiphyseal plates (usually triggered by puberty), if you will, have not yet sealed off longitudinal growth I suspect you are highly undeserving of HGH.  The same holds true for any form of HRT.  Have your testicles ceased to produce the required amount of testosterone or are you a eunuch in need of supplementation of same due to being, well, a eunuch?

Or could it be that you are just unsatisfied with what nature dealt you and hard work, proper eating and sleeping regimens do not appeal to you, i.e., you are too lazy to do what is needed to reach your own personal level of what is attainable NATURALLY.  Any doctor that would prescribe such therapies outside what is noted as being needed is without a doubt a sham of a physician.

Be a man and train like one.  Be the best you can be with what you were given because when all is said and done, one day you will have to get off that crap and you will return to being what you really are.  Why not be something more, what you really can be all on your own?

Oh...wait.  It's too hard and takes too long and you want it now and you want it in the extra large/extra gross/extra phony size.  Someone had to tell you the truth. 

[LWGA]

Unless you are a certified midget, i.e., a homunculus whose epiphyseal plates (usually triggered by puberty), if you will, have not yet sealed off longitudinal growth I suspect you are highly undeserving of HGH.  The same holds true for any form of HRT.  Have your testicles ceased to produce the required amount of testosterone or are you a eunuch in need of supplementation of same due to being, well, a eunuch?

Or could it be that you are just unsatisfied with what nature dealt you and hard work, proper eating and sleeping regimens do not appeal to you, i.e., you are too lazy to do what is needed to reach your own personal level of what is attainable NATURALLY.  Any doctor that would prescribe such therapies outside what is noted as being needed is without a doubt a sham of a physician.

Be a man and train like one.  Be the best you can be with what you were given because when all is said and done, one day you will have to get off that crap and you will return to being what you really are.  Why not be something more, what you really can be all on your own?

Oh...wait.  It's too hard and takes too long and you want it now and you want it in the extra large/extra gross/extra phony size.  Someone had to tell you the truth. 

Trust me, I understand your hostility towards those on drugs.  I've experienced first hand the difference they can make.  Guys who do drugs and compete in natural competitions are some of the biggest frauds around.   I won't get into a "should doctors prescribe or not" debate.  You've made an assumption about what I have or have not attained naturally.  You also made an assumption about my commitment to hard training.  I guess this is where I'm supposed to make some internet challenge....sorry, internet fights are  just not my style.

Andreisdaman, I just told them I was interested in HRT.  I know some of the symptoms of lower testosterone, so I "included" those symptoms in my paperwork. 

[Reeves]

Trust me, I understand your hostility towards those on drugs.  I've experienced first hand the difference they can make.  Guys who do drugs and compete in natural competitions are some of the biggest frauds around.   I won't get into a "should doctors prescribe or not" debate.  You've made an assumption about what I have or have not attained naturally.  You also made an assumption about my commitment to hard training.  I guess this is where I'm supposed to make some internet challenge....sorry, internet fights are  just not my style.

Andreisdaman, I just told them I was interested in HRT.  I know some of the symptoms of lower testosterone, so I "included" those symptoms in my paperwork. 

I do not make assumptions, I make statements regarding the truth.  When someone wants to cheat via drugging up their body, there is no need to make any assumption for they've shown themselves to be weak.  The body they'll acquire from doping is fake.  It will fade faster than a physique built naturally and there are numerous health related risks involved in become a dope sponge and for what, a trophy that won't hold the door open when the wind blows hard?  The adulation of squealing homosexuals?  Renal failure?  High blood pressure? An enlarged heart? Acromegaly?

If your testicles are not functioning at what is widely accepted as within what the medical community has determined to be normal levels for testosterone in men you don't need HRT.  Blood tests  made by qualified physicians will reveal whether or not someone needs HRT.  Blood tests, not symptoms given by prospective patients.  Blood tests done at laboratories.  Blood tests that show usuable levels of testosterone within the subjects body.  Not "symptoms included in paperwork".

As for HGH, I seriously doubt anyone here is one of the wee folk and outside of the emotional age of a few, I tend to think we have all gone through puberty, so again, no one here deserves/needs/requires HGH.  On most of us that lift, our biggest part is our ego. 

[LWGA]

I do not make assumptions, I make statements regarding the truth.  When someone wants to cheat via drugging up their body, there is no need to make any assumption for they've shown themselves to be weak.  The body they'll acquire from doping is fake.  It will fade faster than a physique built naturally and there are numerous health related risks involved in become a dope sponge and for what, a trophy that won't hold the door open when the wind blows hard?  The adulation of squealing homosexuals?  Renal failure?  High blood pressure? An enlarged heart? Acromegaly?

If your testicles are not functioning at what is widely accepted as within what the medical community has determined to be normal levels for testosterone in men you don't need HRT.  Blood tests  made by qualified physicians will reveal whether or not someone needs HRT.  Blood tests, not symptoms given by prospective patients.  Blood tests done at laboratories.  Blood tests that show usuable levels of testosterone within the subjects body.  Not "symptoms included in paperwork".

As for HGH, I seriously doubt anyone here is one of the wee folk and outside of the emotional age of a few, I tend to think we have all gone through puberty, so again, no one here deserves/needs/requires HGH.  On most of us that lift, our biggest part is our ego. 

I've never said that I deserves, need or require HRT.  My position is that I want it.  Again, you have made an assumption.  I have no desire to compete any more.  I'm at a financial point in my life whereby it's not a big deal to spend money HRT.  Quite frankly, I don't need to justify my decisions to you or anyone.  We all have things that work for our own moral compass.  Personally, I don't get the need/desire to consume large quantities of alcohol.  Yet, I'd never challenge a person's desire to drink. 

My Blood work is done by doctors who have nothing to do with the HRT clinic.  Last month my doctor told me that I'm one of the healthiest 45 year old he's ever worked with.  He was saying that based on the size of my bicep, but rather my blood work.

I find it interesting that you would bodybuilding board to rant about drug use.  If you remove drugs completely, the sport will die.   Whereas I do respect the work a true natural puts in, no one really wants to see that.  Just MHO.

[andreisdaman]

I've never said that I deserves, need or require HRT.  My position is that I want it.  Again, you have made an assumption.  I have no desire to compete any more.  I'm at a financial point in my life whereby it's not a big deal to spend money HRT.  Quite frankly, I don't need to justify my decisions to you or anyone.  We all have things that work for our own moral compass.  Personally, I don't get the need/desire to consume large quantities of alcohol.  Yet, I'd never challenge a person's desire to drink. 

My Blood work is done by doctors who have nothing to do with the HRT clinic.  Last month my doctor told me that I'm one of the healthiest 45 year old he's ever worked with.  He was saying that based on the size of my bicep, but rather my blood work.

I find it interesting that you would bodybuilding board to rant about drug use.  If you remove drugs completely, the sport will die.   Whereas I do respect the work a true natural puts in, no one really wants to see that.  Just MHO.

agreed

[Reeves]

agreed

"Snicker"... By the way, those who can, do.   And all because they are real men.  Those who are too weak, too lazy and too cowardly, take drugs.  Get used to disappointment. Go tell your mommies you're taking dope in a mock effort to be what she thought she raised.  A man.

Why am I against drugs and on a board dedicated to bodybuilding?  Because bodydoping is not bodybuilding. Of course you already know that, but refuse to acknowledge the truth.  Keep telling yourselves that a red light doesn't mean stop.

[LWGA]

"Snicker"... By the way, those who can, do.   And all because they are real men.  Those who are too weak, too lazy and too cowardly, take drugs.  Get used to disappointment. Go tell your mommies you're taking dope in a mock effort to be what she thought she raised.  A man.

Why am I against drugs and on a board dedicated to bodybuilding?  Because bodydoping is not bodybuilding. Of course you already know that, but refuse to acknowledge the truth.  Keep telling yourselves that a red light doesn't mean stop.

I've kind of suspected all along that you were a youngster (no offense intended).  Your "Go tell your mommies..." statement confirmed that suspicion.  Men don't "Go tell mommie."  I guess if you don't know, you just don't know.

I'll concede to you that in your world, I'm a cheat, weakling, coward and whatever else you chose to label me.  Best of luck to your future training/competing efforts.

[Reeves]

I've kind of suspected all along that you were a youngster (no offense intended).  Your "Go tell your mommies..." statement confirmed that suspicion.  Men don't "Go tell mommie."  I guess if you don't know, you just don't know.

You certainly, what is the term..."pwned" me with the little pull quote shown above.   Look sport, I'm probably old enough to be your father, but not desperate enough to have gotten even close.        Besides, my children can all write with style.  You?  I wouldn't call what you do "writing", I'd call it "typing".  What was that old line about give a hundred monkeys each a typewriter and sooner or later they're bound to turn out the great American novel?  You just keep banging away at those keys, Cheetah.  Later young man.   Oh, and stay away from dope.  It's not healthy. 

[epic_alien]

I do not make assumptions, I make statements regarding the truth.  When someone wants to cheat via drugging up their body, there is no need to make any assumption for they've shown themselves to be weak.  The body they'll acquire from doping is fake.  It will fade faster than a physique built naturally and there are numerous health related risks involved in become a dope sponge and for what, a trophy that won't hold the door open when the wind blows hard?  The adulation of squealing homosexuals?  Renal failure?  High blood pressure? An enlarged heart? Acromegaly?

If your testicles are not functioning at what is widely accepted as within what the medical community has determined to be normal levels for testosterone in men you don't need HRT.  Blood tests  made by qualified physicians will reveal whether or not someone needs HRT.  Blood tests, not symptoms given by prospective patients.  Blood tests done at laboratories.  Blood tests that show usuable levels of testosterone within the subjects body.  Not "symptoms included in paperwork".

As for HGH, I seriously doubt anyone here is one of the wee folk and outside of the emotional age of a few, I tend to think we have all gone through puberty, so again, no one here deserves/needs/requires HGH.  On most of us that lift, our biggest part is our ego. 

hey reeves

have a nice tall glass of my piss

[Kim Jong Bob]

Unless you are a certified midget, i.e., a homunculus whose epiphyseal plates (usually triggered by puberty), if you will, have not yet sealed off longitudinal growth I suspect you are highly undeserving of HGH.  The same holds true for any form of HRT.  Have your testicles ceased to produce the required amount of testosterone or are you a eunuch in need of supplementation of same due to being, well, a eunuch?

Or could it be that you are just unsatisfied with what nature dealt you and hard work, proper eating and sleeping regimens do not appeal to you, i.e., you are too lazy to do what is needed to reach your own personal level of what is attainable NATURALLY.  Any doctor that would prescribe such therapies outside what is noted as being needed is without a doubt a sham of a physician.

Be a man and train like one.  Be the best you can be with what you were given because when all is said and done, one day you will have to get off that crap and you will return to being what you really are.  Why not be something more, what you really can be all on your own?

Oh...wait.  It's too hard and takes too long and you want it now and you want it in the extra large/extra gross/extra phony size.  Someone had to tell you the truth. 

oh no i cant stand guys like this  "be alla man and train like one lål"

why do all the jelous tiny naturals allways assume that enhanced guys dont train hard?

[BayGBM]

big paws...!

[benchmstr]

i always hand huge hands.....GH did not help the matter...i dont need straps for shit..

bench

[BayGBM]

 

[DK II]

And all from 2cc winstrol and 20mg Deca.... 

[BayGBM]

And all from 2cc winstrol and 20mg Deca.... 

Yep! 

[HTexan]

WTF happen to his fingers? arthritis?