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The Censoring of 240
« on: September 30, 2007, 03:51:28 AM »
As per the Board Rules, I believe the topic of censorship is an appropriate subject for this Board,
so I'd like to discuss what I believe to be the censoring of 240.

I believe the way he was responded to by a moderator (Beach Bum) on this board was wholely innappropriate. His further insistence on moving 240's posts off the board and into the "Complaints" board is a form of censorship, and curtailment of any discussion.

A discussion was called for within the board on the topic of moderator etiquette,
yet the very same moderator (Beach Bum) chose to cut off all discussion, and move the topic elsewhere,
on more than one occassion, with not even the courtesy of a link, for those who might have interest.

I'd like to hear what the readers & posters of THIS board feel about the way this was handled.
If I wanted to hear how the readers & posters of the "Complaints Board" feel about it, I would have posted it there for those readers to read & comment on, ...but I post it here to gather the opinions of the readers, and contributors to this board (The Political Board).

Do the readers here feel it is appropriate for a mod to lower the level of discussion through ad hominem attacks, and childish attempts to belittle worthwhile contributors? If so... how? If not, ...why not?

I guess it comes down to one's principles,and code of conduct ...which can be summed up as one's Politics no?

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Re: The Censoring of 240
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2007, 04:02:17 AM »
Jag,

Read the board descriptions. Complaints and board moderating discussions are done on the Complaints Board.
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Re: The Censoring of 240
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2007, 04:05:04 AM »
Jag,

Read the board descriptions. Complaints and board moderating discussions are done on the Complaints Board.

If I was lodging a complaint with Ron, I am well aware of how to reach him to do so.

I along with Rob, am calling for a discussion of the topic within the Political board, for the benefit and contribution of readers & posters to the Political board. A "Discussion" and a "Complaint" are two different things entirely.
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Re: The Censoring of 240
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2007, 06:07:15 AM »
It's ironic you talking about forum etiquette when your whole existence here is fueled by "pill pushing".

Hint hint, wink wink, you all know what I mean...
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Re: The Censoring of 240
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2007, 06:08:34 AM »
If I was lodging a complaint with Ron, I am well aware of how to reach him to do so.


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Re: The Censoring of 240
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2007, 07:15:31 AM »
If I was lodging a complaint with Ron, I am well aware of how to reach him to do so.

I along with Rob, am calling for a discussion of the topic within the Political board, for the benefit and contribution of readers & posters to the Political board. A "Discussion" and a "Complaint" are two different things entirely.

Ok. Exactly what part of "the rest of the mods" don't you comprehend? No offence.

Questions, Comments, Complaints or Suggestions for Ron and the rest of the mods.

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Re: The Censoring of 240
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2007, 07:21:55 AM »
Politics board has its own set of rules, correct?
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=112411.0
These rules were created by the Political Board mods, and only apply to the Political Board, correct?
IIRC, these rules were made HERE, after much discussion HERE, and applied to HERE.


All I asked for is a condemn/condone vote by members.  Much like the recent vote in Congress, 76-12 I believe) to condemn the MoveOn.org advertisement.  In the Politics board, we use a set of rules and I wished to introduce a piece of legislation to amend this set of rules.  In America, the President cannot move new pieces of Congressional legislation to the UN.  Congress has a process for approving/denying the passage of said legislation.

I believe that a condemn/condone policy is a good way to eliminate debate distraction techniques such as insults and red herrings.  Even a short list of 3 to 5 wholly accepted tactics which the majority of members agree upon, could aid in providing som "peer encouragement" to make the debates more conductive and successful.  I guess we could have seen if the majority of members agreed, but they never had a chance, as the newly introduced Political Board legislation was moved to Siberia for consideration.

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Re: The Censoring of 240
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2007, 07:45:55 AM »
You're taking it too far.

The politics forum isn't the house of commons ::)

I'd assume the political forum rules are just some extra clarifications and are still under the umbrella rules of the Getbig forums.

Doesn't say anything of the political forum being exempt of the general rules of the Getbig forums.
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Re: The Censoring of 240
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2007, 09:02:26 AM »
What happened exactly? I've always thought the mods on this board were very good in regards to deleting and moving posts.

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Re: The Censoring of 240
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2007, 09:15:15 AM »
I proposed a condemn/condone measure of the following type of tactics:

I thought of a nice list that politics members could condemn/condone:

red herrings

eye rolls

insults of a personal nature

The style of "well, a dem did this in 1962, so what's the big deal if..."



I think it would improve the place.

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Re: The Censoring of 240
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2007, 09:32:12 AM »
I proposed a condemn/condone measure of the following type of tactics:

I thought of a nice list that politics members could condemn/condone:

red herrings

eye rolls

insults of a personal nature

The style of "well, a dem did this in 1962, so what's the big deal if..."



I think it would improve the place.

Sounds like a federalist move to me.


Let's just oppose those tyrants who suppress, not the majority.

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Re: The Censoring of 240
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2007, 09:38:06 AM »
Sounds like a federalist move to me.

Let's just oppose those tyrants who suppress, not the majority.

BB insulted me.

When I responded, he moved it. 

Either leave both posts, or move both.  A cookbook recipe doesn't belong on the Politics Board, does it?  And if it does, then my response to it does.

He classified my response as belonging elsewhere and moved it.  Sorta tyrannical.

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Re: The Censoring of 240
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2007, 09:52:01 AM »
BB insulted me.

When I responded, he moved it. 

Either leave both posts, or move both.  A cookbook recipe doesn't belong on the Politics Board, does it?  And if it does, then my response to it does.

He classified my response as belonging elsewhere and moved it.  Sorta tyrannical.


Sounds like a regular John Adams, crying foul when the obvious is pointed out, then reverting to outburts. Good ol' Alien and Sedations Act.

So long as he posted in the thread itself, and replied to your statement, I think no matter what is was about (I saw it was over politics though) it should have stayed put.

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Re: The Censoring of 240
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2007, 09:54:51 AM »
 ::)  My goodness.  This is ridiculous.  But to be consistent with Berserker, I will sticky this for a day and then move it to the Complaints Board where it belongs.  

240 quit acting like a little woman already.  I could probably pull about 100 posts containing insults from you, some of a very personal nature.  But because this is a freakin message board and we don't know each other, I really don't care.  If you have such a problem with being insulted, then don't throw stones.  I never initiate stuff with you.  It's always a response.  

Don't start none, won't be none.

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Re: The Censoring of 240
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2007, 09:58:42 AM »
240 quit acting like a little woman already.

Some would take that as a sexist statement.

I guess you insulted me being a stay-at-home dad, so sexism is something you're okay with.

Can we all make sexist statements, or just you?




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Re: The Censoring of 240
« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2007, 10:08:47 AM »
Some would take that as a sexist statement.

I guess you insulted me being a stay-at-home dad, so sexism is something you're okay with.

Can we all make sexist statements, or just you?



Telling a man he is acting like a woman isn't sexist, just like telling a woman she is being rather manish isn't insulting men. 

Some women tend to be very sensitive.  Hypersensitive even.  A man who starts whining like you is acting like a woman IMO.  Take that however you choose.  If you want to act like a thin-skinned woman, then don't start the insults.  If you start them and someone like me responds, quit crying already.  Geeze.  Aren't you embarrassed?   

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Re: The Censoring of 240
« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2007, 10:13:09 AM »
How do the other Mods that don't constantly fight with 240 feel about the moving of his threads?

BTW, when you move a thread it's common practice to provide a link and not to leave snide comments that can't be replied to. 

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Re: The Censoring of 240
« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2007, 10:32:47 AM »
Telling a man he is acting like a woman isn't sexist,


I would disagree with you here, but you'd probably just remove my response.


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Re: The Censoring of 240
« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2007, 10:40:21 AM »

I would disagree with you here, but you'd probably just remove my response.



The entire thread will be moved tomorrow.   :)  Need some tissue? 

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Re: The Censoring of 240
« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2007, 12:50:36 PM »
The entire thread will be moved tomorrow.   :)  Need some tissue? 

Okay, we'll have some fun here :)

WIll you be deleting my responses to you?

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Re: The Censoring of 240
« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2007, 02:25:21 PM »
Beach Bum = "Little Hitler"

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Re: The Censoring of 240
« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2007, 03:05:47 PM »
Okay, we'll have some fun here :)

WIll you be deleting my responses to you?

 ::)  Geeze Louise.  What a drama queen.  I have never deleted a single one of your posts on this site.  The one time I was asked to do so, I asked another mod to do it (they did). 

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Re: The Censoring of 240
« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2007, 03:07:11 PM »
Beach Bum = "Little Hitler"

Hahahahahaha!   ;D
Touché.  Even little bigots can make funnies.   :)  That nickname is all yours dude. 

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Re: The Censoring of 240
« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2007, 03:09:57 PM »
I have never deleted a single one of your posts on this site. 

way to drop the ball, bb.  we expect you to do better in the future.

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Re: The Censoring of 240
« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2007, 03:10:38 PM »
way to drop the ball, bb.  we expect you to do better in the future.

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