Yates 92 vs. 93

[bizzy]

First of all I am in no way saying that the 1992 version of Yates
was better than the 1993 version. He weighed 244 in 1992 and 257 in 1993.
I wasn't at either contests so I really can't say. I do think he lost something
between the Horton pics weighing 269 and the actual Olympia at 257.
I do know in 1992 he was absolutely peeled and you can see his face
from that year was sunk in like crazy. Most bodybuilders can appear bigger
with crazy conditioning. Wolf being a good example this weekend... 5''11 - 250.
Anyway, I pulled these screen caps off of youtube and found it quite interesting.
I know the scale is different and the lighting is better in 1992. You hear laot of talk about
Yates 1993 and on but I think people forget how good he was in 1992.

[toc67guru]

i feel he was over dieted in 92.
after Haney beat him in 91 then retired i feel Yates's priority was condition as he was going to be up against smaller tighter competitors like Shawn Ray and Lee Labrada.

when he won in 92 he was Mr Olympia and could set his own goals and take his physique to where he wanted and the rest would have to play catch up.

[suckmymuscle]

He weighed 244 in 1992

  He weighted 242 lbs in 1992.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[bizzy]

He was 239 in 91.
244 sounds about right for 92

[just_a_pilgrim]

Yes he said in his book that his main competition at that Olympia was going to be Shawn Ray and Lee Labrada who would both weigh around 200 so what did it matter to be 240 or 250? Dorian was pretty much THE mass monster at the time, better to be ripped so Shawn had nothing to bitch about he could beat them on everything.

[suckmymuscle]

He was 239 in 91.
244 sounds about right for 92

  No, he was 242 lbs in 1992.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Atlantic]

I would still think the statement that Dorian made regarding his 92 vs 93 prep backfired on bodybuilding.  It defiantly worked for him and he gain solid muscle weight.  But people now days say that I don’t want to get ready early and they end up looking bloated onstage or don’t trim all the fat they have.  We see guys coming up every year heavier but fatter.  And say I was holding a bit of water.

Ya right

[Get Rowdy]

The lighting and background was awesome in '92. 

[wisconsinBB]

It would appear as if he got rid of the mullet for 93'   Big mistake!  As every good bodybuilder knows, the mullet brings unreal power.

[njflex]

granite hardness,and thick at his run,but today would be considered light in the legs except calves.

[Rearden Metal]

  No, he was 242 lbs in 1992.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Prove it.



































I didn't think so...

[suckmymuscle]

Prove it.

  Prove what, you moron? It is a well accepted fact that he was 242 lbs in 1992 and that he gained 15 lbs the next year, coming to the 1993 Olympia at 257 lbs.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Stark]

He was 239 in 91.
244 sounds about right for 92

Man he was 29 years old but looked like 35+

[Hulkster]

when he won in 92 he was Mr Olympia and could set his own goals and take his physique to where he wanted and the rest would have to play catch up.

this worked well leading into 93.

problem was, he pushed his physique so hard with heaving training that he screwed himself for 94 and onward..

[NarcissisticDeity]

Prove it.



































I didn't think so...

You didn't think at all 

Dorian Yates from his book Blood & Guts page 16 on the topic of the 1992 Mr Olympia

" I took mt weight down to 242 pounds for the show. "

now don't you look fucking stupid.

[NarcissisticDeity]

1992 - 1993

[affy]

  Prove what, you moron? It is a well accepted fact that he was 242 lbs in 1992 and that he gained 15 lbs the next year, coming to the 1993 Olympia at 257 lbs.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

you both are wrong..he was exactly 243.208434897343 lbs in 1992

[bizzy]

I don't want to argue over two pounds.
Who cares really. ESPN had it at 244 and
I would guess they got that number from Dorian
himself. He may have dropped to 242 and carbed up to 244.

The only problem with the above 2 pics are:
1. They are not up to scale although much better
scale than my screen shots.

2. Dorian looked better onstage in 1992 then his
pre contest pics and looked worse onstage in 1993
than his pre contest pics of 1993 at 269.

[Hulkster]

2. Dorian looked better onstage in 1992 then his
pre contest pics and looked worse onstage in 1993
than his pre contest pics of 1993 at 269.

this is very true.

part of impact of the 93 famous shots was due to the fact that they were taken in black and white under highly controlled lighting conditions (resulting in amazing contrast/shadows eg. the famous side tri shot)

on stage under bright lights, dorian looked less impressive.

[Danimal77]

227-229 in 1990 (not the Mr. Olympia...but when he lost to Momo Benaziza)
239 in 1991
242 in 1992
I have seen both 256 and 257 for 1993
260 in 1994
about the same in 1995
256-257 in 1996
268-269 in 1997

[NarcissisticDeity]

this is very true.

part of impact of the 93 famous shots was due to the fact that they were taken in black and white under highly controlled lighting conditions (resulting in amazing contrast/shadows eg. the famous side tri shot)

on stage under bright lights, dorian looked less impressive.

did you type ' highly controlled lighting conditions ' lol the photographer on the exact pictures in question

Kevin Horoton GetBig Dec 30th

The photo is technically terrible, fortunately the physique is awesome.
I'd agree with Kris about Dorian showing up on stage how he looked a few weeks out. There are some shots of him at around 280 - 285 shredded. That conditioning has not been surpassed.



Kevin Horton on the B&W of Yates

I agree. Nobody would have even have heard of Yates if those shots had been in colour. He was really only 110lbs with one leg 6 inches longer than the other and as smooth as a babies arse. He would never have won all those titles either because the judges were obviously influenced by the black and white tonality.
Amazing what Tri-X can do for a physique. Kodak should use it in their advertising campaign.



Hulkster I just love crushing your stupidity I mean you commit to this insanely ignorant posts with an air of knowledge like you know what you're talking about that what makes bitch slapping you even more fun

There you have the photographer specifically stated from a professional standpoint the photo was terrible and fortunately the physique awesome lol so much for ' highly controlled lighting conditions ' lol

[NarcissisticDeity]

227-229 in 1990 (not the Mr. Olympia...but when he lost to Momo Benaziza)
239 in 1991
242 in 1992
I have seen both 256 and 257 for 1993
260 in 1994
about the same in 1995
256-257 in 1996
268-269 in 1997

262 in 1994 and 270 in 1997 at the prejudging

[NarcissisticDeity]

Peter McGough on the famous Kevin Horton precontest black & whites of Dorian at 269lbs

I was present when those shots were taken and it was the most stunning unveiling of a physique these peepers had seen since my intial view of SERGIO OLIVA at the 1971 NABBA Mr Universe. that day , Dorian's physique blew my - if not his own -socks off.

Peter McGough Ironage
June 06 , 2003

The later photos were taken in his gym about seven weeks before the 1993 Olympia. He'd just finished a chest workout and he weighed 269 pounds. If I had to rate my most memorable bodybuilding moment the sight of Dorian that day would be neck-and-neck with the first time I saw Sergio. He hit the first shot, double biceps, and I walked up to him and said, "Don't worry Dorian. You have plenty of time to fix this. All is not lost."

I mean get serious

[Hulkster]

did you type ' highly controlled lighting conditions ' lol the photographer on the exact pictures in question

Kevin Horoton GetBig Dec 30th

The photo is technically terrible, fortunately the physique is awesome.
I'd agree with Kris about Dorian showing up on stage how he looked a few weeks out. There are some shots of him at around 280 - 285 shredded. That conditioning has not been surpassed.



Kevin Horton on the B&W of Yates

I agree. Nobody would have even have heard of Yates if those shots had been in colour. He was really only 110lbs with one leg 6 inches longer than the other and as smooth as a babies arse. He would never have won all those titles either because the judges were obviously influenced by the black and white tonality.
Amazing what Tri-X can do for a physique. Kodak should use it in their advertising campaign.



Hulkster I just love crushing your stupidity I mean you commit to this insanely ignorant posts with an air of knowledge like you know what you're talking about that what makes bitch slapping you even more fun

There you have the photographer specifically stated from a professional standpoint the photo was terrible and fortunately the physique awesome lol so much for ' highly controlled lighting conditions ' lol

ND, you are a complete and utter moron if you think that a shot with this sort of lighting and contrast is not well thought out and planned.


anyone who thinks that this is a 'technically terrible' shot is naive and stupid when it comes to photography. period.

you probably think all reality TV shows are completely and totally live and random, don't you?

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND, you are a complete and utter moron if you think that a shot with this sort of lighting and contrast is not well thought out and planned.


anyone who thinks that this is a 'technically terrible' shot is naive and stupid when it comes to photography. period.

you probably think all reality TV shows are completely and totally live and random, don't you?

 

Moron the photographer said it was a terrible shot technically he's a professional he would know , you have a very LONG history of contradicting eyewitnesses lol they say ignorance is bliss this would make you the happiest person on the planet !

and nice diversionary tactic  Hulkster now knows more than Kevin Horton a professional bodybuilding photographer lol and FYI moron these were NEVER intended for publication they were for Dorian's personal use as a gauge after McGough seen how impressive the physique was he ran them in Flex and everyone was shocked , this wasn't a magazine photoshoot , damn you look fucking stupid right now lol