I personally think this is better than anything Dorian can offer. Ronnie has smaller waist, actual abs on this occasion, perfect delt/arm balance, definitely better quads, calves not as good but big enough to be proportional with those great quads. And obviously lats are great too. Chest detail is exceptional also.
I guess is partly depends what you're looking for; lats that stand out because they are basically ahead of the other body parts, or a whole physique which has crazy lats but every other body part developed to the maximum also. I always thought every bodypart was being marked in every pose, so I'd have to go with the Ronnie pic. Also, I was under the impression judges only marked physiques on the stage, not in a studio or backstage etc.
actual abs? his abdominals were never great you're reaching at straws mentioning them , smaller waist sure , perfect arm/delt balance? are we looking at the same pic?
most of the arm is biceps , better quads that serve to highlight his pathetic calves? no advantage in that case , this is where you're just flat out wrong his calves while being pathetic are most certainly NOT proportionate to his voluminous quads that's just not open for discussion and his lats look good overall this is one of his better front latspreads but not in Dorian's league
I guess is partly depends what you're looking for; lats that stand out because they are basically ahead of the other body parts, or a whole physique which has crazy lats but every other body part developed to the maximum also. I always thought every bodypart was being marked in every pose, so I'd have to go with the Ronnie pic. Also, I was under the impression judges only marked physiques on the stage, not in a studio or backstage etc.
it doesn't depend on what ' you're ' looking for it depends on what the judges are looking for !
Muscular Bulk now dependent on what year pic you want to use Dorian carries more muscular bulk than Ronnie 99 even at the same weight it doesn't matter because there is a difference between 257 pounds and 257 dense hard as nails pounds , so that's working with you . Dorian at 269 pounds has a clear advantage in muscular bulk compared to Ronnie , and forget about him at 282 pounds
Muscular Bulk - advantage Dorian
Density & Dryness clear cut advantage for Dorian any year almost any weight , this isn't open for discussion Dorian's conditioning is legendary , the only place I'm willing to concede Ronnie was equal in this aspect as 2001 ASC and maybe 1998 but at lower weights , 1999 SORRY ain't happening
Density & Dryness - advantage Dorian
Balance & proportion 1999 may be a pretty good year for Ronnie's balance however that has nothing to do with Dorian his is better , there are many aspects to balance & proportion which Dorian has a clear advantage , arm length in relation to torso , Ronnie has long arms in relation to his short torso , you don't find this with Yates , Ronnie's forearms aren't in proportion with his oversized biceps/triceps . Ronnie also has long legs and a short torso not great upper & lower body balance , way oversized quads for his unproportionate calves , you don't find this problems with Dorian
AT HIS BEST ( keyword )
Balance & proportion - advantage Dorian
Posing & Presentation most of the time Ronnie can't effectively hit most of his mandatories but this particular pose is good that's why I say it's one of the much better ones he's done , we can push this
Now here is what wins a pose ALL ROUNDS ARE PHYSIQUE ROUNDS this means the judges access ALL of the criteria I just listed AT ONCE so while Ronnie may have advantage(s) in part(s) of the criteria as a whole he does NOT meet them all better than Dorian this is why Dorian beats him in this and any other pose , you can't cherry pick what you like an ignore the rest
the front latspread belongs to Yates even to this day I have not seen a better one , the only one I can think of that same close was Rhul at the NOC and even he says Dorian's is the best of all-time
