150 GRAMS OF BCAA'S A DAY ON MILOS' PROGRAM =

[garraeth]

100g of aminos?  thats nearly a quarter pound of straight aminos....

all the aminos you need in a day can be had in 1 bunch of parsley blended into one of your shakes.  I take half a bunch and blend it into a cup of v-8 twice a day.  Keeps my breath fresh, get all my aminos, antioxidants, extra fiber, is massive anti inflammatory to promote better recovery and also helps your...um....PeterNorthi sms

I seriously hope you are punking me. But in case you are not, a fourth time:

Seriously, check your info before posting. It's like 36g (~12 pre + ~12 during + ~12 post). And it's not BCAA's.

Pre: http://koloseum.com//store/ProductDetail.asp?bDetail=T&IDProduct=2&iNum=1
During: http://koloseum.com/store/ProductDetail.asp?bDetail=T&IDProduct=3&iNum=1
Post: http://koloseum.com/store/ProductDetail.asp?bDetail=T&IDProduct=4&iNum=1

Do you guys even confirm stuff like this for youselves?

[BEAST 8692]

I surely cannot. I am a computer scientist, not a bio-engineer (or whatever). But since I train with arguably the #1 bodybuilder/fitness model trainer in the world, I listen to his advice. And I see no reason for him to mislead me.

And I would guess that just like the computer world, the bio world is crock full of shitty and trendy studies. And, at the same time, has some very good ones. So you could probably go back and forth with studies all day long.


I know in the computer world there are many, many articles written about "amazing" technologies such as Ruby or CSS or even back in the day before everyone else figured it out, Perl (sucks ass for internet, other than very specialized application). But since I have used them all, and consider myself to know a bit about real-world usage, I've found that the studies that say those technologies are amazing and whiz-bang, are dead wrong. Beginners usually believe the studies and blindly argue for them (like a religion)...then after a couple years of usage (if they are smart and loose their zealot status), figure out that they were wrong and change.

On the other hand, AJAX is one of the most amazing technologies I have ever found (for internet dev) -- and the studies (often times by the same authors who drummed up support for shit like Ruby, Perl or CSS) agree with me. So, what does that tell me? Only someone with real world experience can give you a good idea as to what actually works and what doesn't -- authors and armchair warriors cannot. They can introduce you to ideas or new technologies (which is what I use them for now), and give you numbers (like a reference book), but as an expert in a field, you must use it in a real world environment.

real world experience is great, but the reality is that i seriously doubt milos has completed any serious experiments without various pharmaceuticals having a massive (parden pun) effect on the results and, call me a cynic, but the fact that he is also selling said product might affect his point of view.

[Kegdrainer]

no, i take 3 of these monstrous bcaa amino complex pills 4 times a day in addition to my parsley.

[Andre Nickatina]

no, i take 3 of these monstrous bcaa amino complex pills 4 times a day in addition to my parsley.

Honestly... Can you actually hold on to a 590 pound stone?

[BEAST 8692]

no, i take 3 of these monstrous bcaa amino complex pills 4 times a day in addition to my parsley.

got any pics keg so we can all see the incredible effects all those pills are having?

[AZbodybuilder]

not increased to the point where you need 600 grams of protein for fuccks sake, hahahahaa, a 1200 pounnd Rhino doesn't need that much protein let alone a tiny 285 pound human.

I am around 230 contest and 275 off season, my protein intake is 450 to 500 grams year round. Milos knows his shit ! How many people are going to take nutrition advice form someone who looks like you anyway ? You are a typical internet shit talker.

[The_Leafy_Bug]

I am around 230 contest and 275 off season, my protein intake is 450 to 500 grams year round. Milos knows his shit ! How many people are going to take nutrition advice form someone who looks like you anyway ? You are a typical internet shit talker.

Post a pic 

[Naked4Jesus]

Hell no.

Dude... I hope you're not handing out advice that's obviously not working for you.  You look like like a retired pro golfer.     Know your role!! 

[Van_Bilderass]

I am around 230 contest and 275 off season, my protein intake is 450 to 500 grams year round. Milos knows his shit ! How many people are going to take nutrition advice form someone who looks like you anyway ? You are a typical internet shit talker.

Milos' physique IS a result of what he does training/nutrition/chemical-wise. However, the why of why his diet "works" is probably not due to what he believes. Just for an example, you can't force protein synthesis with more and more dietary protein. Say if he replaced 150 grams of that protein with carbs he probably would not build any less muscle.

[Andre Nickatina]

I am around 230 contest and 275 off season, my protein intake is 450 to 500 grams year round. Milos knows his shit ! How many people are going to take nutrition advice form someone who looks like you anyway ? You are a typical internet shit talker.

lol 450.  Mike Matarazzo clogged arteries in the making.

[AZbodybuilder]

Post a pic 

[The_Leafy_Bug]

No way you are 230 there. What are your bones solid concrete?

[AZbodybuilder]

Milos' physique IS a result of what he does training/nutrition/chemical-wise. However, the why of why his diet "works" is probably not due to what he believes. Just for an example, you can't force protein synthesis with more and more dietary protein. Say if he replaced 150 grams of that protein with carbs he probably would not build any less muscle.

If it was a precontest diet, 150 grams extra carbs a day could make a huge difference.

[AZbodybuilder]

No way are you 230 there? What are your bones solid concrete?

I won the Super Heavy Weight Class at that competition, I was actually about 226. I'm 5 11.

[The Squadfather]

good build man.

[The_Leafy_Bug]

I won the Super Heavy Weight Class at that competition, I was actually about 226. I'm 5 11.

Good deal, what show was it?

[AZbodybuilder]

No way you are 230 there. What are your bones solid concrete?

Here is another one for you

[AZbodybuilder]

Good deal, what show was it?

The Arizona June 30th this year.

[The Squadfather]

guy looks great for a super heavy, most of the time at state and local level NPC shows 95 percent of the time the supers are sloppy as fucck.

[Van_Bilderass]

If it was a precontest diet, 150 grams extra carbs a day could make a huge difference.

Maybe, maybe not. Might be a positive change.

[AZbodybuilder]

guy looks great for a super heavy, most of the time at state and local level NPC shows 95 percent of the time the supers are sloppy as fucck.

That was my Strategy, to come in ripped as a Super Heavy, at the local level I did good. There were bigger guys in my class but they were smooth. At the National level I would get smoked. Defiantly need to bring a few areas up before I compete at the USA.

[The Squadfather]

That was my Strategy, to come in ripped as a Super Heavy, at the local level I did good. There were bigger guys in my class but they were smooth. At the National level I would get smoked. Defiantly need to bring a few areas up before I compete at the USA.

bring the arms up and you'll look awesome at that level, quads could use a little more size and sweep but they're still not bad at all.

[AZbodybuilder]

Maybe, maybe not. Might be a positive change.

Sure it could ! I was just saying the 150 grams of carbs can make a huge differents in how you look.

[Van_Bilderass]

And, this goes back to my original post. That real world experience outweighs lab experiments.

Sure, whatever works. The problem is that he uses "science" to argue for the merit of his supplements. Then in the next turn saying science does not matter. For example, Layne Norton says other aminos (like whey for example) ingested at the same time won't reduce the protein synthetic effect of the essential aminos (Layne is a protein researcher). Milos can't argue science with him so he makes a disparaging comment instead.

It won't hurt to take his drinks, will probably be beneficial. But not to the extent he says or necessarily for the reasons he lists.

[Kegdrainer]

much to the angst of the haters here...i did manage to lift a 590 pound landscaping stone and move it from the curb where the landscapers dropped it off to the garden at my parents house about about 40-50 feet away from where i picked it up.