does it matter when you train certain body parts

[bigandbrolic]

I used to train legs on mondays but because of testosterone release it causes but i haven't in a while.  do you think it matters when i train certain body parts?

[haider]

If there's no schedule conflicts outside of the gym, only thing I would worry about is overlap of musclegroups when training bodyparts on certain days. IMO, the testosterone release from Squats is a bogus idear.

[Bluto]

i only worry about overlapping training parts, making sure i get enough rest between them. it can also be a mental thing, maybe after a whole weekend of rest you got more energy for a demanding muscle group on a monday, than a friday when youre preparing for the weekend... or maybe it works the opposite, maybe you a lot of shit happening on mondays with a new work week or week at school and the last thing you wanna do is legs... 

mondays generally are good for legs since the majority at the gym will probably do chest

[slaveboy1980]

i only worry about overlapping training parts, making sure i get enough rest between them. it can also be a mental thing, maybe after a whole weekend of rest you got more energy for a demanding muscle group on a monday, than a friday when youre preparing for the weekend... or maybe it works the opposite, maybe you a lot of shit happening on mondays with a new work week or week at school and the last thing you wanna do is legs... 

mondays generally are good for legs since the majority at the gym will probably do chest

right on.

i do legs on mondays cuz everyone else does chest.

[slaveboy1980]

I used to train legs on mondays but because of testosterone release it causes but i haven't in a while.  do you think it matters when i train certain body parts?

huh why would testosterone release be bigger on mondays? also i dont believe that squat causes a testo burst that has any effect.

read blutos answer it summarized the possible considerations you have to make.

[wes]

Of corse it matters.........you wouldn`t do triceps a day before chest would you,or deadlifts a day before you squat??

Best scenario IMO:
Mon.-Legs & Calves
Tues.-Chest
Wed.-Back & Traps
Thurs.-Shoulders & Hams
Fri.-Arms
Sat.- REST
Sun.-REST

Throw in abs twice a week wherever it`s convienient.

[slaveboy1980]

Of corse it matters.........you wouldn`t do triceps a day before chest would you,or deadlifts a day before you squat??

Best scenario IMO:
Mon.-Legs & Calves
Tues.-Chest
Wed.-Back & Traps
Thurs.-Shoulders & Hams
Fri.-Arms
Sat.- REST
Sun.-REST

Throw in abs twice a week wherever it`s convienient.

i used to do the split you mention, but i dont think its more effective than a simple 3 day split.

[WOOO]

i used to do the split you mention, but i dont think its more effective than a simple 3 day split.

i agree... for natties you don't need to do much more than that... best part is it saves a ton of time

[slaveboy1980]

i agree... for natties you don't need to do much more than that... best part is it saves a ton of time

well it does save time..but i would train every day if it gave me the best results.

the thing a 3 day routine does is that it gives your body time to recuperate.

[Bluto]

suppose your chest is lacking, to give it a special day when you only do chest feels pretty good. you know you can give it your 100%

[slaveboy1980]

suppose your chest is lacking, to give it a special day when you only do chest feels pretty good. you know you can give it your 100%

well, there is truth to that....and you can always for short period of times do more volume and use more training days.....but it will burn you out in the long run...

also..there is nothing stopping you from going all out on chest...even if you work a muscle group afterwards...

doing one muscle group per day (i used to do it) looks good on paper because you can totally focus on a bodypart (as you say)...but...the training days often become 5-6 (per week) when you do that kind of routine....which certainly doesnt give you enough recovery time.

you can do alot of things...the real question is does it really give you results.

[Bluto]

if you go all out on chest you will not be able to go all out on the muscle group following it

suppose one do chest once a week on its own day, that's one week until the next time how will that make you burn out in the long run?

[slaveboy1980]

if you go all out on chest you will not be able to go all out on the muscle group following it

suppose one do chest once a week on its own day, that's one week until the next time how will that make you burn out in the long run?

it doesnt in itself...but it may if you use the same strategy for all muscle groups. (5-6 workout per week)

as the whole body needs to recuperate (CNS). not just the muscle trained.

as for the first statement...if you do triceps after chest they will be pre exhausted and you wont need to do as much for them (and cant) compared to if you had seperate armday.....for me it has worked just as well for arm growth (you dont need many sets for arms)

like i said i used to do the one muscle part per day thing...and i had the same arguments you had...but i noticed that the added rest days when using a 3 day split is more important than just focusing on one body part per day.

[Bluto]

but then it comes down to how much csn needs and going to failure etc and thats anyones guess.

at the other end there's mentzer and co who believes you might need up to 2 weeks to recover and that would disqualify the 3 times a week program too

pre exhausted is debatable, what if the arms are pumped and therefore you cant train them properly, surely that isnt beneficial

or would shoulders after chest really for as well as doing shoulders first when you're fresh.

[slaveboy1980]

but then it comes down to how much csn needs and going to failure etc and thats anyones guess.

at the other end there's mentzer and co who believes you might need up to 2 weeks to recover and that would disqualify the 3 times a week program too

pre exhausted is debatable, what if the arms are pumped and therefore you cant train them properly, surely that isnt beneficial

or would shoulders after chest really for as well as doing shoulders first when you're fresh.

im not gonna get into mentzer and a general discussion of training theory but i will say this:
i certainly believe you can work your triceps after chest and get good results...
or biceps after back. sure you wont use the same poundages but it wont matter. remember im talking about 6-9 sets per body part...not 20.

that being said..i never liked chest/shoulders/tricep workouts...(done in the same workout)

when i use a 3 day split i do:

chest/arms

legs

back/shoulders 

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nothing is written in stone tho..alot of training routines work. for me training 3days a week has given me alot better results than working out 5 days a week.

its also a question of what mentally suits you .i feel more "hungry" when i dont workout 5-6 every week...

i rather have 3 quality workouts than 5-6 half assed workouts in a week.

its really easy to find out what works best tho...just try it and then you will know.

[wes]

I gotta` agree with Bluto here,too many bodyparts on the 3 day setup to really do justice to them all except for the first one or possibly two at the very most.

Bottom line is,do whatever works for you personally.............. ....nothing is carved in stone just as you said.