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Tough questions for the Toney Freeman camp
« on: October 15, 2007, 07:36:24 PM »
Freeman is the man, one of my favorite guys out there.  Humble.  Hard-working. 

But you have to wonder if the X-Man's days on top were short lived.  Will he be back next year to win shows or was it fun while it lasted?  His sudden foray into high-rep leg training was very odd - cost him a lot of size and a top 6 placing.

I thought he would be a top threat to Jay.  What happened?  Has he spoken on it?  Miss the peak?  Did he injure a quad and doesn't wish to talk about it? 

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Re: Tough questions for the Toney Freeman camp
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2007, 07:44:23 PM »
if bbing was as easy as the mags and supp ads say about these pros every single one of them would/should hit there peak show after show...

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Re: Tough questions for the Toney Freeman camp
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2007, 07:47:05 PM »
if bbing was as easy as the mags and supp ads say about these pros every single one of them would/should hit there peak show after show...

If it's a simple peaking thing, fine.

Why a tall guy would intentionally change thigh rep schemes before the biggest show of his life -  resulting in a lot of lost size (which a big man can't do) - that is beyond me. 

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Re: Tough questions for the Toney Freeman camp
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2007, 07:51:19 PM »
Freeman doesn't have a great record for peaking does he? He was a nobody for awhile. Just the NO-shotgun guy...

btw hahahahaahah (told you so ADIPO8)

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Re: Tough questions for the Toney Freeman camp
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2007, 07:52:45 PM »
what rep range was he using?

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Re: Tough questions for the Toney Freeman camp
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2007, 07:56:41 PM »
his succes got to his head

and he kept hyping himself here with his gimmick Adipo8 !  ::)

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Re: Tough questions for the Toney Freeman camp
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2007, 09:14:02 PM »
Yeah, I'm pretty upset with the whole ordeal ... I was really looking forward to Toney placing high at this Year's Olympia ... no Dice.  :-\

But you know what ... we live and we learn. He won't make the same mistake twice ... at least I don't think he will. He'll be just fine next Year ... count on it !  ;)

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Re: Tough questions for the Toney Freeman camp
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2007, 11:17:26 PM »
If it's a simple peaking thing, fine.

Why a tall guy would intentionally change thigh rep schemes before the biggest show of his life -  resulting in a lot of lost size (which a big man can't do) - that is beyond me. 
I don't think it had much to do with the training. Probably just burned out.

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Re: Tough questions for the Toney Freeman camp
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2007, 01:43:26 AM »
I don't think it had much to do with the training. Probably just burned out.

You hit the nail right on the head.  Homeboy was doing far too much traveling and promotion for VPX during his prep.  Hopefully Toney will do his own thing for the next show, stay at home and prep.

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Re: Tough questions for the Toney Freeman camp
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2007, 02:25:16 AM »
Toney will return in 2008 bigger and better. I agree, he probably just got burned out this year. It happens.
No doubt about it...

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Re: Tough questions for the Toney Freeman camp
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2007, 02:35:08 AM »
Toney is 41 and seemed to be at his lifetime best shape at age 40.  How long he has to still improve is tough to say.  Vince Taylor seemed to improve until age 45 though.
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Re: Tough questions for the Toney Freeman camp
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2007, 02:52:30 AM »
Prison can't hold the Xman

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Re: Tough questions for the Toney Freeman camp
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2007, 02:58:57 AM »
Prison can't hold the Xman

Tony should squat as much as Adipo8 does on him. True story

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Re: Tough questions for the Toney Freeman camp
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2007, 03:00:45 AM »
Toney will return in 2008 bigger and better. I agree, he probably just got burned out this year. It happens.
I agree after a few months off Tony will do some damage in 2008. Don't think age is a factor, he's come to the sport late but is only just reaching his full potential - he's got 3-5 years left at the top.

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Re: Tough questions for the Toney Freeman camp
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2007, 03:00:57 AM »
Tony should squat as much as Adipo8 does on him. True story
all bullshit aside Tonys gonna be bring his A game next year, when he rocks the house, and brings the pain.

Hey Tony if your reading this, you GOOOOOOOOOONIE!

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Re: Tough questions for the Toney Freeman camp
« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2007, 03:03:02 AM »
wheres adipo8  to speak on this????????

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Re: Tough questions for the Toney Freeman camp
« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2007, 03:03:49 AM »
I agree after a few months off Tony will do some damage in 2008. Don't think age is a factor, he's come to the sport late but is only just reaching his full potential - he's got 3-5 years left at the top.

Can I ask you something Trev, how do you actually know this?

A you some kind of bodybuilding marvel?

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Re: Tough questions for the Toney Freeman camp
« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2007, 03:04:53 AM »
all bullshit aside Tonys gonna be bring his A game next year, when he rocks the house, and brings the pain.

Hey Tony if your reading this, you GOOOOOOOOOONIE!

Hahahaha OK 'Davidpaul' ;D

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Re: Tough questions for the Toney Freeman camp
« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2007, 03:06:17 AM »
Hahahaha OK 'Davidpaul' ;D


thanks for he capital D, that made me feel important.

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Re: Tough questions for the Toney Freeman camp
« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2007, 03:09:05 AM »
Can I ask you something Trev, how do you actually know this?

A you some kind of bodybuilding marvel?
Ha ha, just an opinion reached via common sense, we'll see .....

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Re: Tough questions for the Toney Freeman camp
« Reply #20 on: October 16, 2007, 03:16:59 AM »
Ha ha, just an opinion reached via common sense, we'll see .....

Just remember bro,

at the end of the day,

when the shit hits the fan,

You might have to just check yourself.

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Re: Tough questions for the Toney Freeman camp
« Reply #21 on: October 16, 2007, 03:51:15 AM »
Just remember bro,

at the end of the day,

when the shit hits the fan,

You might have to just check yourself.
Indeed !! I think  ::)

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Re: Tough questions for the Toney Freeman camp
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Re: Tough questions for the Toney Freeman camp
« Reply #23 on: October 16, 2007, 06:38:33 AM »
I agree after a few months off Tony will do some damage in 2008. Don't think age is a factor, he's come to the sport late but is only just reaching his full potential - he's got 3-5 years left at the top.

Can you name any other bodybuilders who have only reached their full potential at age 42+?

Even Vince Taylor, Beckles, etc looked way better at 30 than 40+

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Re: Tough questions for the Toney Freeman camp
« Reply #24 on: October 16, 2007, 06:42:06 AM »
Freeman is the man, one of my favorite guys out there.  Humble.  Hard-working. 

But you have to wonder if the X-Man's days on top were short lived.  Will he be back next year to win shows or was it fun while it lasted?  His sudden foray into high-rep leg training was very odd - cost him a lot of size and a top 6 placing.

I thought he would be a top threat to Jay.  What happened?  Has he spoken on it?  Miss the peak?  Did he injure a quad and doesn't wish to talk about it? 
toney was trying to hide the fact he was being lazy with all that high rep light weight shit...(same many other bbs do)

when i saw the video of him working legs  i knew he would be out of top 5..i saw that everything on him was too small..arms, legs etc...had no thickness in that MD video