Victor Martinez guestposed at 2007 NPC Maryland and Grand Prix Oct 13

[El Diablo Blanco]

Physiques change man, get over it, no bodybuilder wants to stay the same size n shape year after year
On another note though, how bloated is Vics face  

If they want to guest pose and not look like fat asses then they need to keep in shape.

[The Coach]

It may not be bodybuilding , but its what most bodybuilders do.....they want to become bigger, maybe its not the best for the fans, but im sure 90% of men who dont even compete still want to get bigger all the time ( muscle, not fat )

I agree and it's too bad. I've always maintained that it's MUCH harder to get freaky conditioning than it is to get freaky size.

[Purge_WTF]

Blocky, shapless, most over rated bodybuilder on the planet.

  Amen.

[Petrucci]

while he ist not completely 'in shape' you guys have to agree he is looking a lot better than most of the top Pros when they do guest appearances

[Busted]

Looks like he is getting a nice stomach on him. 

[wylllis100]

Hes not fat.  Granted he is smooth and not ready to step on a Competition stage.  But its off season ffs.

His belly is looking bloating but can you imagine how much food he is eating??

Plus he is aiming for Jay which means he needs more size.

[candidizzle]

vic has maxed out his physique, i think. he can only keep that amount of musculature, tighten it up, and slim the waist....he still looks awesome, and definitely should have placed ahead of jay; but one thing wrong with his physique is his shoulders are naturally not that wide (bone structure). dont get me wrong...his DELTS are great, its his shoulder width that lags.

[The Coach]

Plus he is aiming for Jay which means he needs more size.

Needs more size? It's time for these guys to take another approach.

[OneMoreRep]

Needs more size? It's time for these guys to take another approach.

So, coach, why don't you go and talk to all the judges individually and change the direction that the industry has been taking for the last 20 years..?..

[tom joad]

he's got something funky going on with his calves.  they don't change whether he's flexing them or  standing normal

maybe they're a genetic gift?

[The Coach]

So, coach, why don't you go and talk to all the judges individually and change the direction that the industry has been taking for the last 20 years..?..

It hasn't been for the last 20 years, just since about 97'. I've been calling out judges for years.

[OneMoreRep]

It hasn't been for the last 20 years, just since about 97'. I've been calling out judges for years.

The Yates era seemed like the era that sparked the freaky size race..

[The Coach]

The Yates era seemed like the era that sparked the freaky size race..

Yes, I agree and it's been downhill for most of those years since. There was a time when Ronnie had great symmetry and conditioning that Yates would never even think about coming close to, but then his symmetry kept getting worse and worse over the years and then his conditioning started to go, each year it seemed after 2002-3 it just seemed to be getting less and less sharper, but funny as imbalanced as he was in this last Olympia, he was actually one of the best conditioned.

[BEAST 8692]

why don't we all stop blaming yates and ronnie.

dorian was an absolute freak of size and condition and everyone knew it at the time. audiences would stare in awe. ronnie maintained and possibly improved the standard for a few years.

blame mr pillsbury doughboy himself, jay cutler and the corrupted judges that got paid off by muscletech.

[gh15]

and all of this while the busts are going on and poor 20 year olds pm me dozens times a day to ask me if their $100 will get them in trouble,,,
if the 2 men in the pictures are alive well and free,,all the kids of getbig and the world will stay free,,
that comes to show you again my internet board warriors that yoru goverment doesnt give 2 shits about your personal cheap change orders since those 2 men in pictures order a lot more than cheap change orders but! for personal use as personal supply! the ones who need to runaway already done it or got busted but please stop with this paranoia and when you get knowck on door just pull out this 2 men pictures and say that you wanted to look like them because they are been advertized on magazines.. dont wory no one will come knocking on yrou doors my little scared birds its the heads of the snake who already got the boom of their life and it will go to famous athletes and bodybuilders are not among them,,but please dont do rec drugs ever and dont use underground garbage made on us grounds!

[The Squadfather]

and all of this while the busts are going on and poor 20 year olds pm me dozens times a day to ask me if their $100 will get them in trouble,,,
if the 2 men in the pictures are alive well and free,,all the kids of getbig and the world will stay free,,
that comes to show you again my internet board warriors that yoru goverment doesnt give 2 shits about your personal cheap change orders since those 2 men in pictures order a lot more than cheap change orders but! for personal use as personal supply! the ones who need to runaway already done it or got busted but please stop with this paranoia and when you get knowck on door just pull out this 2 men pictures and say that you wanted to look like them because they are been advertized on magazines.. dont wory no one will come knocking on yrou doors my little scared birds its the heads of the snake who already got the boom of their life and it will go to famous athletes and bodybuilders are not among them,,but please dont do rec drugs ever and dont use underground garbage made on us grounds!

GH laying out the brutal truth as usual.

[Azure]

Then ... and Now. I prefer the " Then " look ... Just my Two Cents ... and, again ( as I've mentioned before a few times ), I saw Vic Guest Pose this past May here in Michigan ... I was APPALLED on how he looked ... he resembled a Fat Man on Stage ! Much like Wes's Depiction.

I agree.  Maybe people should just stay amatuers.  All they do in the pros is ruin their physiques.

[Option D]

maybe he was going for the gay cutler soft look. worked out for gutler

[beatmaster]

hmmmm, when is he going to have the baby?

and to say that some people said he should be mr O, gimme a fuckin' break

[musclecenter]

Victor's guestposing video on Oct 13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swojDK7GW6o

[OneMoreRep]

Victor's guestposing video on Oct 13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swojDK7GW6o

That was actually pretty amusing.

[HowieW]

If they want to guest pose and not look like fat asses then they need to keep in shape.

The ironic thing is comapred to a lot of top pros I have seen guest posing he didn't look THAT bad.
I agree 100% however, that if you want to get paid decent $$$ to guest pose, you should be in better shape overall.

[chainsaw]

He looks great after the biggest show of the year.  all that dieting, 1 hamburger will stick to you like a roast!

[Wiggs]

What a bloated mess.  What the hell did he eat to look like that two weeks after the big show?
Even though I'm not a Cutler fan, at least he doesn't look like garbage during the rest of the year.

Get rid of Cutler and Martinez and bring in Heath and Wolfe.

[SAMSON123]

YOU MADE A MISTAKE..IT IS VICTOR MARTINEZ BEING SPOKEN OF NOT JAW GUTLER, WHO IS THE REAL MICHELIN MAN