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Re: Did Milos and the coach ever meet up?
« Reply #200 on: October 24, 2007, 12:57:53 PM »
BTW, JB says hi ;)

Wow...that explains...nothing!

I know way too many people with those initials.

You are mysterious with names - any reason for that?

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Re: Did Milos and the coach ever meet up?
« Reply #201 on: October 24, 2007, 12:58:51 PM »
thank you for responding milos.
sure, i have a few questions at the moment..

when on a ketogenic diet, what is the ideal protein to fat proportions? what is the minimum percentage of dietary fat that would be advisable to keeep your body burning fat and not muscle while on zero carbs?
and do you recommend a ketogenic diet?
and lastly...when doing a zero carb ketogenic diet, i have been told that after two weeks of zero carbs, you can and should have a high carb day, and thi high carb day will yield no fat deposits. is there truth in this; or is it bullshit?

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Re: Did Milos and the coach ever meet up?
« Reply #202 on: October 24, 2007, 12:59:40 PM »

Yeah, I figured that one would not get answered... ;)

Well, as you see - you figured WRONG ;)


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Re: Did Milos and the coach ever meet up?
« Reply #203 on: October 24, 2007, 01:00:50 PM »
Pussy, how can you be too busy to meet/call Milos, when you have spent so much time replying to him in this thread?

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Re: Did Milos and the coach ever meet up?
« Reply #204 on: October 24, 2007, 01:03:46 PM »
LOL. No wonder bb'ing is in the toilet. Two elder 'statesmen,' who should know better, are going at it like schoolgirls. This should be on pay-per-view as an undercard bout. 

Dr Chimps (nice face BTW...fits your way of thinking perfectly)...

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Re: Did Milos and the coach ever meet up?
« Reply #205 on: October 24, 2007, 01:04:06 PM »
Pussy,

What are you, like 12? I haven't been on in a while, need to get caught up!

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Re: Did Milos and the coach ever meet up?
« Reply #206 on: October 24, 2007, 01:04:54 PM »
I just read through this whole thread, and there was only ONE recent pic of The Coach in it.   >:(

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Re: Did Milos and the coach ever meet up?
« Reply #207 on: October 24, 2007, 01:07:20 PM »
What are you, like 12? I haven't been on in a while, need to get caught up!

Pussy, I noticed that you didn't really answer the question, but am happy to see that you once again had the time to respond immediately.

 ::)

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Re: Did Milos and the coach ever meet up?
« Reply #208 on: October 24, 2007, 01:08:39 PM »
Pussy, how can you be too busy to meet/call Milos, when you have spent so much time replying to him in this thread?

Did it ever occur to you that Coach is such a great trainer that he can train three people while simultaneously posting on getbig?

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Re: Did Milos and the coach ever meet up?
« Reply #209 on: October 24, 2007, 01:09:08 PM »
Did it ever occur to you that Coach is such a great trainer that he can train three people while simultaneously posting on getbig?

Oh, of course. How silly of me.

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Re: Did Milos and the coach ever meet up?
« Reply #210 on: October 24, 2007, 01:35:13 PM »
thank you for responding milos.
sure, i have a few questions at the moment..

when on a ketogenic diet, what is the ideal protein to fat proportions? what is the minimum percentage of dietary fat that would be advisable to keeep your body burning fat and not muscle while on zero carbs?
and do you recommend a ketogenic diet?
and lastly...when doing a zero carb ketogenic diet, i have been told that after two weeks of zero carbs, you can and should have a high carb day, and thi high carb day will yield no fat deposits. is there truth in this; or is it bullshit?

For example - as I had few hours OFF today...I stayed home and wrote important article:

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=177274.0


In the mean time I am entertaining myself playing with Coach...as I said...

OK, let's see:

Who can EVER tell you what is IDEAL protein to fat proportion on KETOGENIC DIET?
What's more - how can you even ask that kind of question?

Would you consider that individually we are all different - to begin with...and than consider OTHER VARIABLES.

For example: GOAL of the person who is going on ketogenic diet...Trying to loose weight (body fat)? or gain lean body mass without getting extra body fat; eating this way for certain sport; eating this way to accomplish CERTAIN THINGS (too numerous to mention?)

Not knowing energy expenditure of the person how could you guess ideal proportion of these two macronutrients?

Providing that you are NOT eating carbs - you are cutting ONE energy substrate out of equation - so you must know how much ENERGY you would need to cover your metabolic and physiological needs you will expose your body to - on the daily bases.
If you are trying to change your body composition - you will need to be PRECISE...and for that you need to know your metabolic rate (do you?)
Resting metabolic rate and than adding EVERYTHING you do throughout a day on top of it...knowing what and when to eat...

It is much more complex than people think...as even though you might avoid carbs at all times - you might be using too much or too often (or in the wrong time) certain protein powders (as just one of examples) which will have fast release and high amounts of glycogenic aminos poring into the blood stream and possibly high conversion of those aminos into the glucose...

I would have to analyze each and every client separately to give correct answer - but in general: you determine amount of protein needed for your goal...and than amount of energy you need to cover energy expenditure requirements...(which could be considerably different EVERY DAY!!!)

I posted few articles about this on my board...so IF you do some SEARCH - I am sure you will find it...

Also, these are exact questions I could answer in great detail in my FREE SEMINARS - but you guys are not willing to maybe make the time and come to my gym...instead expect that I should answer each and every question individually...and I simply CAN'T...



There is so much I need to say about KETOGENIC DIET - it will take me hours that I don't have...At the seminar I could do in minutes...

Just to touch the subject - on your question IF high carbs will be converted to FAT if after 2 weeks of ketogenic diet you reintroduce it to your diet: HIGHLY UNLIKELY...

Your body will more than likely soak up those carbs into empty glycogen storage...but that also depends IF your glycogen is really severely depleted or your body did manage to keep/make some glycogen daily...from food and supplements you were using...

Also it depends WHEN you take those carbs...If you take at the wrong time and WRONG KIND - yes it is possible to get those carbs converted into the fat...

For example if your energy intake far exceeds your expenditure - it is almost certain that extra carbs on overfed state will make your body store those carbs - in your love handles...etc...etc

You see this is example of the issue I could cover in my next seminar IN DETAIL...

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Re: Did Milos and the coach ever meet up?
« Reply #211 on: October 24, 2007, 01:36:53 PM »
Did it ever occur to you that Coach is such a great trainer that he can train three people while simultaneously posting on getbig?

 ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Did Milos and the coach ever meet up?
« Reply #212 on: October 24, 2007, 02:03:35 PM »

The Coach will be at the Excalibur on December 1st.... on stage.

Milos, would be nice to see you there again if you can make it!


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Re: Did Milos and the coach ever meet up?
« Reply #213 on: October 24, 2007, 02:07:28 PM »
The Coach will be at the Excalibur on December 1st.... on stage.

Milos, would be nice to see you there again if you can make it!



I am sure I'll have a reason to be there...(some guys/girls from my gym competing...)...so I'll see you there.
I hope you'll keep your hands of my wife this time around ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Did Milos and the coach ever meet up?
« Reply #214 on: October 24, 2007, 02:27:50 PM »

wow thank you for the detailed answer. ...in my case, i am 195 lbs, about 14 percent bodyfat, and 5 foot 11. my goal is to lose fat as quickly as possible without losing muscle mass.

if this could help you out in giving me soem advice..i would greatly appreciate any dietary suggestions.


i do live in california...when is the next free seminar?

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Re: Did Milos and the coach ever meet up?
« Reply #215 on: October 24, 2007, 02:52:54 PM »
wow thank you for the detailed answer. ...in my case, i am 195 lbs, about 14 percent bodyfat, and 5 foot 11. my goal is to lose fat as quickly as possible without losing muscle mass.

if this could help you out in giving me soem advice..i would greatly appreciate any dietary suggestions.


i do live in california...when is the next free seminar?


Soon...

Garraeth can you post the link?

Ketogenic diet is also something that firs perfectly with my supplements (but off course some would now think - BUSINESS...)

Well, anyway - I will suggest you keep your carbs to absolute minimum...take at least 300 grams of protein (up to 400 really) in 6-8 meals - and take my supplements during the workout (30 minutes before - 2 scoops preload, during the workout - 2 scoops xxpload and post workout 2 scoops reload)

Other than that - 3 tblsp of Udo's Oil (every 8 hours apart)...with greens (green leafy vegetables) in at least 3 of your meals...

Have:

fish (or sea food) meal (or 2)
chicken (or turkey) meal (or 2)
steak (or wild game) meal
2- egg whites meals (with 2 whole omega eggs per meal)
Protein shake
MY SUPPLEMENTS (PRE-DURING-POST)

In 2 years when you qualify for Mr. Olympia call me for possible endorsement deal.

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Re: Did Milos and the coach ever meet up?
« Reply #216 on: October 24, 2007, 02:59:23 PM »
Lmmmffaaaaoo!!! i wonder what that convo was like between milos and milimar when they were in bed ...

Milimar : " Honey... i love supporting you by goin to all these shows with you but... some people make me a  lil uncomfortable..."

Milos: " well.. what do u mean? like who?

Milimar: " oh its nothing u know  how there are always those guys that come to shows that arent boybuillders and are kinda weird.. you know what i mean?"

Milos: "there has to be somone or some people that were specifically bothering you and we arent going to stop going to these shows...tell me milimar.."

Millimar: " that Ron guy was just gettin too close! he kept lookin down my shirt and checking out my ass! gave me the creeps!"

Milos:..( curses in serbian)"...thats nasty....ill confront him.."


hhahahahhaa

Milos:...in perfect English - no accent whatsoever: "...but honey how can he check out your ass if he is lookin down your shirt? Besides your rear is quite big - how could he possibly miss it for the love of God? And, don't you think it is nice gesture to watch weirdo enjoy the scenery? I mean he must have some fun in his life after all..."

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Re: Did Milos and the coach ever meet up?
« Reply #217 on: October 24, 2007, 03:18:20 PM »
Tim from Atomic Training trains over 20 clients a day and he knows his shit.

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Re: Did Milos and the coach ever meet up?
« Reply #218 on: October 24, 2007, 03:36:15 PM »

In 2 years when you qualify for Mr. Olympia call me for possible endorsement deal.

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LOL ! Milos, you're a pretty funny guy ... I hope you continue Posting on GetBig.  :)

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Re: Did Milos and the coach ever meet up?
« Reply #219 on: October 24, 2007, 03:36:23 PM »
Soon...

if it is around december/january, I am flying down there  8)

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Re: Did Milos and the coach ever meet up?
« Reply #220 on: October 24, 2007, 06:06:52 PM »
I am sure I'll have a reason to be there...(some guys/girls from my gym competing...)...so I'll see you there.
I hope you'll keep your hands of my wife this time around ;D ;D ;D

Yes I know, appearantly you also have someone in my class, he trains at my gym. Should be intresting (no, not really, I've seen him).

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Re: Did Milos and the coach ever meet up?
« Reply #221 on: October 24, 2007, 06:11:08 PM »
Did it ever occur to you that Coach is such a great trainer that he can train three people while simultaneously posting on getbig?


Actually from the time I got off the board this afternoon and came back on just now I trained about 9 clients with 2 too go and one other trainer had 7 and the other 8 for the day, so you do the math.

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Re: Did Milos and the coach ever meet up?
« Reply #222 on: October 24, 2007, 06:16:52 PM »

I hope you'll keep your hands of my wife this time around ;D ;D ;D


Ron's always "gettin his grope on".   You know that Milos.  ;D
Ron: "I am lazy."

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Re: Did Milos and the coach ever meet up?
« Reply #223 on: October 24, 2007, 07:42:01 PM »


Actually from the time I got off the board this afternoon and came back on just now I trained about 9 clients with 2 too go and one other trainer had 7 and the other 8 for the day, so you do the math.

I don't have a dog in this fight. I enjoy reading both your and Milos' posts.

But, your excuses don't hold water. As Milos said, you claim to have no energy, yet, you're still able to train more clients before 9am than the U.S Army trains in the entire day. In addition, you're not doing heart surgery. I think your clients could make through a day without you counting their reps, while you go and train with Milos, and, if your training biz is such a cash cow, losing a day's pay should be a mere bag of shells to a man of your wealth.

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Re: Did Milos and the coach ever meet up?
« Reply #224 on: October 24, 2007, 07:52:17 PM »
I don't have a dog in this fight. I enjoy reading both your and Milos' posts.

But, your excuses don't hold water. As Milos said, you claim to have no energy, yet, you're still able to train more clients before 9am than the U.S Army trains in the entire day. In addition, you're not doing heart surgery. I think your clients could make through a day without you counting their reps, while you go and train with Milos, and, if your training biz is such a cash cow, losing a day's pay should be a mere bag of shells to a man of your wealth.

Do you expect me not to work? I do have a business to run and make my priority. I still have a family to take care of and bills to pay, dude, this show is for fun (but I still want to win) but it's not my life. BTW, who said I was wealthy?