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[The Coach]

I thought you were taller. You don't seem to have the squaty look so common among shorter guys.

How much did you weigh in this pic?

About 162 if I remember correctly.

[The Coach]

honestly bro dont you think its getting old? you parading around like you know something? just come clean people who actually know whats right and wrong arent being fooled. you are DELUSIONAL.

Just stop being a pussy and go meet with Milos already. You already know whats going to happen in your show.. Im guessing middle or light weight 2nd or 3rd place tops... just go get Milos help.

After 30+ years I know alot, I was doing and studying this shit before you were even a thought in your daddys pants......I just love how these 22 year know-it-alls think they know it all....LOL!!

[The Coach]

and jack lalanne with u. does that mean he knows what he is talking about?

its come to the point where you are just looking like a LIAR.

This you? Being fat doesn't make you better or more advanced in your training.



Here's me over 20 years ago and about a year or two younger than you........see the difference junour?

[The Coach]

and jack lalanne with u. does that mean he knows what he is talking about?

 

Actually stupid, yes it does, that's why he's better shape than you at 94 than you are at 22 and makes MILLIONS promoting fitness and wellness.........hope this helps dummy!!

[The Coach]

you know what i see? i see someone who was in great shape 20 years ago at 5ft 6 who probably put ona whole 30lbs of muscle since they have been working out in the PAST 20 YEARS.

what great progress  

I see an old delusional man that doesnt know shit about what he is talking about as ANY ONE who ACTUALLY KNOWS REAL INFORMATION would scratch their head and your fictional scientific theories.

but thats all going to come out when you are SMALL AND FLAT for your show ay coachypoo?

 

oh no I am fat   is that all you got? ive put on MORE MUSCLE TISSUE THAN YOU HAVE IN YOUR WHOLE 300 YEARS OF LIVING ON THIS PLANET COACH, and I AM MUCH TALLER. JUST BECAUSE I AM NOT DIETING DOWN FOR A SHOW, doesnt mean SHIT.

you tell me old man, what do you think is more impressive, going from 149lbs to lets say at the VERY MOST LEANED OUT I WEIGH 200lbs at 6ft 2.. lets just say I lose 65 lbs to get inshape which is way too much...PUTTING ON 50LBS OF MUSCLE FROM AGE 14-22, MOST OF WHICH WAS DONE NATURALLY...

vs

someone who is 5ft6 and in the past 20+ some years could only put on what looks like maybe 30lbs of muscle  FUCKIN JUICED.

the numbers speak for themselves genius

See junour, this where your knowledge dissipates. You seem to think just because someone doesn't put on a ton of muscle in a short amount of time that makes them inferior or "not knowledgeable" this is where you and Milos are wrong, it's the smart ones who maintain and put muscle on slowly while conditioning gets better and better and better, Shawn Ray weighed 197 when he won the Nationals in 87' and weighed between 205 and 210 during his final Olympia years, same with Labrada (both who by the way owned Milos in everyway) I was there when Labrada won middles at the Nationals (he beat my training partner Jon Aranita) at 1761/4 and during his final Olympia years never competed at much more over 185-190....why? it was conditioned quality muscle.

Dude, your too obsessed with size instead of size and quality.....I'm not being sarcastic when I say this, I'm being totally honest, people who think like you have so much to learn it ain't even funny, you can insult all you want, but it's the Gods honest truth!!

[The Coach]

you know what i see? i see someone who was in great shape 20 years ago at 5ft 6 who probably put ona whole 30lbs of muscle since they have been working out in the PAST 20 YEARS.

what great progress  

BTW, it's closer to 45lbs not 30.....big difference.

[Van_Bilderass]

Milos, please talk about Nasser's recent accusations 

You mentioned Milos Sarcev. Here is a point I would like to make in this interview. Milos still owes me money: 2550 dollars. I loaned him money to buy anabolic steroids because at the time, in 1995, he was getting divorced from one of his numerous wives and he was out of money. So I loaned him the money so he could buy his drugs so he could compete. But he never gave me the money back (laughs).

Later he was telling people that he paid me back by providing me with steroid knowledge. First of all this is wrong: he never gave me any knowledge because he would get all his knowledge from me. He likes to be one of these guys who are always the center of attention.

He is one of the most vain bodybuilders. And he has silicone implants in his calves. And he likes to have the reputation as being the trainer of champions and everybody who he is training he is providing with drugs and then he gets a little success with his clients, before moving onto the next one.

Again he is very attention hungry and likes to promote himself and this is why he likes to give out the steroids. Because people wouldn't actually go to him to be trained if they did not get the steroid program they were promised.

[BEAST 8692]

I am telling you that my "studies" (read LIFE Bozo) is something I practice for over 20 years...
I used this method from the very beginning of my career as I simply didn't know better...Made sense to me from th every beginning as in Yugoslavia there was nobody to tell me that I was wrong.
I didn't have all the protein that I wanted...my family could not afford it...but ONE THING I HAD was "EAK - Esencijalne Amino Kiseline" from Pharmaceutical company Hemofarm - Vrsac...

As I managed to forge signature of my father (doctor) on his stolen Rx notebook - I had almost unlimited supply of these to me priceless essential amino acids at the time...
So I would save them for before-during and after the workout driving them with either orange juice or other sugary drinks...to me it always made sense to use simultaneously EAA, Glucose and spike the insulin...

It worked wonders in the beginning of my career when I was often accused "juicing" when I didn't know what juice is....and it works now - BUT MUCH BETTER as I managed to enhance my formula...

But, point is - DO YOU KNOW HOW NUMEROUS STUDIES ARE BEING DONE ANYWAY?

If you do (which I doubt) how can you compare them with someone's lifetime work...MINE to be exact...

And JUST BECAUSE I didn't do University Study so far you are suggesting that my theory and principles are - worthless?

So to answer your question MY studies ARE more comprehensive than MANY case proven published clinical studies BY FAR!

And time will tell.

In the mean time - did you have your rice cake yet?

you stole your father's rx pad, forged his signature and uttered the script, of which you gained drugs illegally.

then you claim that you didn't 'know what steroids were' before later contradicting that post when you stated that you knew about steroids but didn't use them becaue you feared dying and we are supposed to believe that, seeing as you had no problem using other prescription drugs.

your whole career you have been obsessed with bbing and have put your health and life on the line numerous times, but we are supposed to believe that this 19 year old wannabe champion bber was too scared to use some steroids.

btw, i still haven't seen any evidence whatsoever that pre-digested amino acids consumed orally will not take considerable time before they may be available to the blood.

[Palpatine Q]

It takes 4 months maxmium for me to diet down, it TAKES YEARS TO PUT ON THAT MUCH MUSCLE.

You say it takes years to put on muscle, yet slam Coach for "only" putting on 30 lbs. of muscle over the years.

Which one is it Tubby?

[the choad]

This you? Being fat doesn't make you better or more advanced in your training.



Here's me over 20 years ago and about a year or two younger than you........see the difference junour?

Muvirse Looks a junior version of King Tamali..

[Pete Nice]

Milos, why havnet I been sent a confirmation e-mail yet??

[Matt C]

Milos' Drinks - they deliver!

Hi Milos.

[G o a t b o y]

funny u mention shawn ray...so ur 205 at 5 ft 6 right? funny how ur the same height and weight but look no where near that size and musclarity at 6 percent bodyfat...why is that?

either shawn was way heavier or u r way lighter which one is it??

Those pictures are not recent.  I think he said he was 160 in the pics. 

[The Coach]

i have seen recent pictures and there is NO progress. In fact he might look SMALLER.

If he is 205lbs at 6% bodyfat he should be looking as muscular as Ray, Padilla, Colombu.. SOMETHING along those lines.. but he does not...

God please I beg of you, stop stop embarresing yourself and showing you're ignorance!

[candidizzle]

i am sure that milos' drinks do work very well. probably even close to as well as he claims they do.
but they are EXPENSIVE!
so i am making my own version, the cheap way..
i bought some bcaa's, some arginine, and some creatine monohydrate.
taking them 45 minutes before my workout, 5 minutes before my workout, and 20 minutes into my workout.
i think the whey protein and the carbs he adds in dont add anything. and i think that his timing is off..(digestion is not immidiete, thus, if you want an immidiete post workout supp., it has to be ingested prior to the end of the workout; if you want a during workout supp., it has to be ingested just before; and if you want a pre workour supp. it has to be dgested quite soemt ime before the workout....)

i am doing this for the first time today.

ill let you guys know how it works.

[The Coach]

i am sure that milos' drinks do work very well. probably even close to as well as he claims they do.
but they are EXPENSIVE!
so i am making my own version, the cheap way..
i bought some bcaa's, some arginine, and some creatine monohydrate.
taking them 45 minutes before my workout, 5 minutes before my workout, and 20 minutes into my workout.
i think the whey protein and the carbs he adds in dont add anything. and i think that his timing is off..(digestion is not immidiete, thus, if you want an immidiete post workout supp., it has to be ingested prior to the end of the workout; if you want a during workout supp., it has to be ingested just before; and if you want a pre workour supp. it has to be dgested quite soemt ime before the workout....)

i am doing this for the first time today.

ill let you guys know how it works.

Add in Vitargo. I've been getting Vitargo from Sweden (much better than the American version) and even though it's expensive as hell it's well worth the cost.

[candidizzle]

 i will be buying some vitargo in a few weeks...i am leaning out right now and have zero carb intake for at least another week or two..once i get to 9-10%bf then i will add in vegetables and small amounts of vitargo post workout. i have heard tremendous things about it.

[The Coach]

i will be buying some vitargo in a few weeks...i am leaning out right now and have zero carb intake for at least another week or two..once i get to 9-10%bf then i will add in vegetables and small amounts of vitargo post workout. i have heard tremendous things about it.

.....and on a side note, I've been using vitargo for my athletes long before Milos made it popular.....not really a secret in the athletic community!

[YoungBlood]

My point, I seriously think that I or anyone who gets conditioned enough has the advantage over someone who is on insulin, when I hit my poses, things happend, I went from looking relaxed to looked reletivly (being that I'm 5 weeks out) ripped, something you don't see anymore, I'm not boasting by anymeans, I'm just telling you the difference in what I see, again, I've always maintained that it's MUCH easier to get big than it is to get ripped. It's been said by people who were fortunate enough to see Frank Zane at an Olympia say "when he walked on stage you can see every fiber in his muscles move and when he posed, his muscles jumped out".........that Milos, is true ripped conditioning and oh, I do realize that people today are much bigger because of the insulin, but make no mistake, I won't be that small as I was water tested today at under 6% and 205 at 5'6, which means I'm tetering on Lt. Heavies to Heavies and my symmetry hasn't suffered one bit and at 45, no loose skin to speak of. Old School Milos...old school!!

Arnold, in his Encyclopedia, attributes this to the difference in training (I'm SURE that drugs play a large part in todays physiques too). He mentions how Franco would train rather heavy all the time, so when he flexed, nothing really "popped." However, when Arnold hit his poses, this "something" happened, and Arnold said it was because he did higher reps.
Don't shoot the messenger, but I think the theory holds water to some degree.

[knny187]

I think Joes is going to come in as promised

[The Coach]

I think Joes is going to come in as promised

That would be an understatement, unless something drastically goes wrong, it will be as promised and more

[knny187]

I see all the guys & some gals on here talk alot of shit......

Joe..I believe you'll be one of the first getbiggers that will do what he says

[windsor88]

i will be buying some vitargo in a few weeks...i am leaning out right now and have zero carb intake for at least another week or two..once i get to 9-10%bf then i will add in vegetables and small amounts of vitargo post workout. i have heard tremendous things about it.

How long have you been leaning out.  Got any progress Pics.

[candidizzle]

How long have you been leaning out.  Got any progress Pics.

wow. i have been trying to diet for a year and 3 months. my overall fat loss has been about 100 lbs..while gaining maybe 20 lbs of lean mass. the last three or four months my dieting has been very staggered.

here.. this is not an ab shot, but it was taken today and can be some sort of indication as to my present condition.

[windsor88]

wow. i have been trying to diet for a year and 3 months. my overall fat loss has been about 100 lbs..while gaining maybe 20 lbs of lean mass. the last three or four months my dieting has been very staggered.

here.. this is not an ab shot, but it was taken today and can be some sort of indication as to my present condition.

Ok.  Still look like shit.  Just wanted to make sure.


J/K


I know you were on the low carb for awhile but not sure how long and what you lost on the low carb.