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« Reply #50 on: October 27, 2007, 11:53:07 AM »

I haven't been paying attention to the brock lesnar bullshit. but once he gets in the octagon I really want him to get knocked out standing up. With blood and teeth coming out of his mouth as he falls on his face.

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« Reply #51 on: October 27, 2007, 11:55:21 AM »

I haven't been paying attention to the brock lesnar bullshit. but once he gets in the octagon I really want him to get knocked out standing up. With blood and teeth coming out of his mouth as he falls on his face.

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« Reply #52 on: October 27, 2007, 12:04:47 PM »

he's only a somebody because of the wwe. the fighters who are established fighters should be in the spotlight not this guy.
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« Reply #53 on: October 27, 2007, 12:26:13 PM »

he's only a somebody because of the wwe. the fighters who are established fighters should be in the spotlight not this guy.

Its just mainstream exposure for the sport dude calm down...he will be handed his ass eventually.  Plus he's only been training MMA for like 9 minths now.
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« Reply #54 on: October 27, 2007, 02:42:53 PM »

Its just mainstream exposure for the sport dude calm down...he will be handed his ass eventually.  Plus he's only been training MMA for like 9 minths now.
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how much more exposure does ufc/mma need now. Even with the fighters they have now, they should be marketing those fighters not a former wrestler from the wwe. Look at poor matchups they are putting together nothing compared to prides cards. In time I'm sure the cards will get better. Adding lesnar to the mix is a disservice to the high calibre fighters that are already in the ufc and they aren't even using them properly.
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« Reply #55 on: October 27, 2007, 03:13:41 PM »

lol

how much more exposure does ufc/mma need now. Even with the fighters they have now, they should be marketing those fighters not a former wrestler from the wwe. Look at poor matchups they are putting together nothing compared to prides cards. In time I'm sure the cards will get better. Adding lesnar to the mix is a disservice to the high calibre fighters that are already in the ufc and they aren't even using them properly.

OMG, someone actually has a brain here!   Grin
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« Reply #56 on: October 27, 2007, 03:28:15 PM »

bullshit pride wasnt that great
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« Reply #57 on: October 27, 2007, 03:29:31 PM »

bullshit pride wasnt that great


hahaha...sho you right!
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« Reply #58 on: October 27, 2007, 03:33:15 PM »


hahaha...sho you right!

yeah im right. you're just so big fanboys of pride you forget about the many fights that sucked and the many bad matchings.

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« Reply #59 on: October 27, 2007, 03:47:47 PM »

yeah im right. you're just so big fanboys of pride you forget about the many fights that sucked and the many bad matchings.



Please explain, dont just leave it like that Bluto.
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« Reply #60 on: October 27, 2007, 04:12:14 PM »

Please explain, dont just leave it like that Bluto.

Well let's take a look at a few examples, how about the last two Pride on japanse soil:

PRIDE 34 - Kamikaze:

Yoshihiro Nakao     Edson Draggo - draggo has 3 losses in a row and is now fighting in cage rage

Eric Esch     Wagner da Conceicao Martins - that's right, thats eric butterbean... fighting 390 pounds "Zuluzinho" who has 3 losses in a row, they even let this chump fight fedor back in 2005...  and nog in 2002... why did pride match their best fighters against people like that?

Makoto Takimoto     Zelg Galesic - here comes the japs... pride loved to put a lot of japanse tomato cans on their cards...

Gilbert Yvel     Akira Shoji - great to make gilbert fight a jap with 14 wins and 16 losses...   Roll Eyes

James Thompson     Don Frye - another giant card, retarded japs with their love for giants and godzilla..

Shinya Aoki     Brian Lo-A-Njoe - aoki is 11-2 and they match him up with brian who is 4-9-2 and got submitted in 1,5 minutes... he has now 4 losses in a row

Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou     Ricardo Arona - wow finally a decent fight

Jeff Monson     Kazuyuki Fujita - last fight of the night, they put the tomatocan fujita up against monson

this is the kinda dreamcard pride delivered that get everyone so worked up?  Roll Eyes

let's take a look at pride 31, maybe pride 34 was just a bad card?:

PRIDE 31 - Dreamers:

Roman Zentsov     Pedro Rizzo - roman got nearly as many losses as wins, but against a washed up rizzo he managed to win. rizzo nowadays fight in art of war, ive yet to hear anyone want him back in ufc.

Quinton Jackson     Dong Sik Yoon - rampage, now in ufc, fights yoong  a 2-4 record asian

Fabricio Werdum     Jon Olav Einemo - decent matchup, werdum went to ufc - and lost against arlovski.

Tsuyoshi Kohsaka     Mario Sperry - here we go, one more jap against one more 1990's fighter...

Alistair Overeem     Sergei Kharitonov     - decent matchup

Josh Barnett     Kazuhiro Nakamura - who lost againt machida in ufc, got choked out by barnett

Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira     Kiyoshi Tamura - great another japanse fighter... submitted in 2,5 minutes

Mark Coleman     Mauricio Rua     - coleman need to retire, who the hell wanna see him anymore, except the japanse...

Mark Hunt     Yosuke Nishijima - mark hunt is pretty cool, but who would he fight? yosuke?  a japanse tomatocan with 0 wins and 4 losses, thats who!

yeah pride was so SUPERIOR! as we can tell  Roll Eyes



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« Reply #61 on: October 27, 2007, 04:32:54 PM »

Im not saying that Pride was superior, I just said that I prefered Pride over UFC.  They both have their times with bad cards...
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« Reply #62 on: October 27, 2007, 04:33:38 PM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PRIDE_events

look at Critcal Countdown, Final conflict, Shockwave, Grand Prix events

bullshit pride sucks. there are highs and lows for everything. Compared to pride everything ufc has done is low lol.


05 total elimination middleweight

Kazuhiro Nakamura vs  Kevin Randleman
Kazuhiro Nakamura defeats Kevin Randleman by unanimous decision.

Ricardo Arona vs  Dean Lister
Ricardo Arona defeats Dean Lister by unanimous decision.

Yuki Kondo vs  Igor Vovchanchyn
Igor Vovchanchyn defeats Yuki Kondo by unanimous decision.

Vitor Belfort vs  Alistair Overeem
Alister Overeem defeats Vitor Belfort by submission due to a guillotine choke at 9:06 of Round 1.

Dan Henderson vs  Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
Antonio Rogerio Nogueira defeats Dan Henderson by armbar submission at 8:05 of Round 1.

Yoon Dong-Sik vs  Kazushi Sakuraba
Kazushi Sakuraba defeats Dong Sik Yoon by technical knockout (referee stoppage) at 0:38 of Round 1.

Quinton Jackson vs  Mauricio Rua
Mauricio Rua defeats Quinton Jackson by knockout at 4:47 of Round 1.

Wanderlei Silva vs  Hidehiko Yoshida
Wanderlei Silva defeats Hidehiko Yoshida by split decision.



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« Reply #63 on: October 27, 2007, 04:37:07 PM »

the general tone is that pride was superior. before pride fighters went to ufc they would all kick ufc fighters ass - they didnt. so pride fans ended up with a shitload of excuses. and now everytime it's a so-so card in ufc people like to talk about the superior cards of pride, well guess what their cards wasnt that great all the time either. especially considering how many bad matchups there were, the shitload of godzillas, washed up old wrestlers, and japanse fighters who most of them sucked.

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« Reply #64 on: October 27, 2007, 04:37:45 PM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PRIDE_events

look at Critcal Countdown, Final conflict, Shockwave, Grand Prix events

bullshit pride sucks. there are highs and lows for everything. Compared to pride everything ufc has done is low lol.





Lets compare attendance rates

Pride 90,000+
UFC 12-15,000 at best

hmmmmmm................w onder why that is.  They couldnt even sell out Arco. 17, 317 seats..... Roll Eyes
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« Reply #65 on: October 27, 2007, 04:38:51 PM »

the general tone is that pride was superior. before pride fighters went to ufc they would all kick ufc fighters ass - they didnt. so pride fans ended up with a shitload of excuses. and now everytime it's a so-so card in ufc people like to talk about the superior cards of pride, well guess what their cards wasnt that great all the time either. especially considering how many bad matchups there were, the shitload of godzillas, washed up old wrestlers, and japanse fighters who most of them sucked.



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« Reply #66 on: October 28, 2007, 07:51:25 AM »

all in all pride WOULD put together better fights. they didn't take the time to build up a fight  by letting 2 great fighters fight a couple of easier fights before they put them together like the ufc does. there tournaments as listed above put some of the best matches together they had also.

also the yellow cards the ref had where you got money taken if you weren't fighting were great. tim slyvia wouldn't make any money in the ufc if they had those
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« Reply #67 on: October 28, 2007, 01:14:14 PM »

all in all pride WOULD put together better fights. they didn't take the time to build up a fight  by letting 2 great fighters fight a couple of easier fights before they put them together like the ufc does. there tournaments as listed above put some of the best matches together they had also.

also the yellow cards the ref had where you got money taken if you weren't fighting were great. tim slyvia wouldn't make any money in the ufc if they had those

Theres a shitload of fighters that would be broke in the UFC if they had yellow cards.
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« Reply #68 on: October 28, 2007, 02:11:03 PM »

Theres a shitload of fighters that would be broke in the UFC if they had yellow cards.

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« Reply #69 on: October 28, 2007, 02:21:35 PM »

such as

Sylvia
Machida
Sherk
Hughes
Sanchez
Koshchek
Monson
Kongo
Florian
Arlovski
Imes
Mir
Starnes
Bisping
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« Reply #70 on: October 28, 2007, 02:34:53 PM »

Sylvia
Machida
Sherk
Hughes
Sanchez
Koshchek
Monson
Kongo
Florian
Arlovski
Imes
Mir
Starnes
Bisping

why would they get a yellow card
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« Reply #71 on: October 28, 2007, 02:37:00 PM »

For one reason or another they are all boring ass fighters...My opinion Bluto, Im sure you will spend an hour defending each one of them, so lets hear it.
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« Reply #72 on: October 28, 2007, 02:56:59 PM »

For one reason or another they are all boring ass fighters...My opinion Bluto, Im sure you will spend an hour defending each one of them, so lets hear it.

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« Reply #73 on: October 28, 2007, 05:06:10 PM »

Sylvia
Machida
Sherk
Hughes
Sanchez
Koshchek
Monson
Kongo
Florian
Arlovski
Imes

i def. don't think hughes, sanchez(even though i don't like him) sherk and florian belong on this list
Mir
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Bisping
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« Reply #74 on: October 28, 2007, 05:15:43 PM »



So youre telling me that Sherk's lay and pray is really dominating.  Drop down in weight and still cant finish a damn fight
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