answer to question in regards to sustanon

[one1234]

ur right gh15..
what do u think of advanced stealth and axio....ug shit?/
thanks
one

i told you alreasdyt 100 times on this board that books dont build a bodybuilder,,it is years of trial and error and learning the basics when it comes to hormonized of human being,,

see the problem with people like you is that you see an ounce of water on your 8% 187.5 lb physiqe  and you think you get fat and out of shape while in reality this is the reason you will NEVER GROW AND WIN A TITLE IN BODYBUILDING

even zane used dosages at this range,,you do not improve if you dont try and change things,,if you always think ...oh i want to be like the way i looked in the summer with my 9% and 190lb..and you cant get it pass you that you need to go through 12% 210lb inorder to improve then you will never be a bodybuilder

the best bodybuilder is the one who knows what it takes from personal experience not what friend tell him or what he hear on internet ,,that is why i write in gossip and opinion to let you know what it takes in general but to leave it up to you to decide after you try ...or not

[biceps]

gh15, i thought test e kicks in at about week 4-5, am i wrong?

gh15  where is the answer ?

[The Squadfather]

gh15  where is the answer ?

go play in traffic.

[OTHstrong]

gh15  where is the answer ?

Go take your one d bol a day and go study a book, then you might be a bodybuilder

[gh15]

gh15, i thought test e kicks in at about week 4-5, am i wrong?

by week 5 on testosterone enantat you should be already feeling and looking swole from head to toe unless cutting which in this case you also should look fuler hard and cut to a very noticable level in comparson to the before you,,

5 weeks is long time for testosterone enantat,,,week 1-2 you should feel it and feel strength up and hunger up,,week 5 you should fuck like a mad man with girlfriend and see the improvment


susta take longer since you want to bring the blood up to levels needed,,despite the prop ester since most people do not work right with sust as a bodybuilder and do not inject it often enough ,,so to them it takes longer to build it up,,if injected often enough you will not have problem

[gh15]

ur right gh15..
what do u think of advanced stealth and axio....ug shit?/
thanks
one

yes underground but international underground in places where hormones are legal and not controlled so products should be ok,,the emphesize is on ok since as i always say with underground you never know what you get

[The Squadfather]

hey GH what amounts of UG stuff is comparable on a per CC basis to the good human labs like Upjohn, Organon, Schering, Unimed, etc., like 250mg. of Legit stuff= what mg. of UG stuff?

[gh15]

i dont know since underground labs from what i know that were in usa sold half the time fake and way underdosed hormones ,,sometimeswith products that were not even what they said they were but mainly way underdosed to a point of having a vial saying 250mg of testosterone and in reality you had in 25mg of testosteronne in the all vial,,so in this case you will need about 10 vials of the underground garbage to compare to one american pharma vial,,you just never know with underground,,many of the people behind underground are shady people with criminal back round ,,they would deal narcotics same as they deal hormones they dont give 2 shits about you and only want and aim at earning the most money in the shortest time possible,,all of them fall usually wether it is by goverment or by local crimes they commit ,,99% of them have criminal past and record and they are marked men due to other crimes

[biceps]

Go take your one d bol a day and go study a book, then you might be a bodybuilder

I will do that .

[The Squadfather]

i dont know since underground labs from what i know that were in usa sold half the time fake and way underdosed hormones ,,sometimeswith products that were not even what they said they were but mainly way underdosed to a point of having a vial saying 250mg of testosterone and in reality you had in 25mg of testosteronne in the all vial,,so in this case you will need about 10 vials of the underground garbage to compare to one american pharma vial,,you just never know with underground,,many of the people behind underground are shady people with criminal back round ,,they would deal narcotics same as they deal hormones they dont give 2 shits about you and only want and aim at earning the most money in the shortest time possible,,all of them fall usually wether it is by goverment or by local crimes they commit ,,99% of them have criminal past and record and they are marked men due to other crimes

yep, it's a shame the way the business is these days, we need more guys like you over here in the US.

[disco_stu]

whoah ..an amp per day and 2 amps per day..

this is a long acting mix of androgens with fast and long acting types...the brouchure itself shows that the longer acting types have half lives of more than 8 weeks!

for good gains even for large BBs 1 amp PER WEEK is all that is needed. Your regime is classic example of BBs not knowing what works as they have so much stuff in their systems and the only way they can tell is to take massive doses of everything as their bodies are so saturated the usual doses virtually do nothing.

For even the national level competitor, 2 amps per week of sust (we're talking 250) is plenty. if there is no "off period" during the year then nothing works in moderate dosages.

last i heard of, 4 amps of sust cost about $80 so at 2 amps per day thats darn expensive.

whats wrong with 9 months clean per year with a 3 month cycle consisting of 12 amps of sust, gh, anapolan and stanazolol. Guarantee 10+ lbs per year solid gains using just that..probably 30 lbs for the first year.

with 90% of it retained each year too.

[Rearden Metal]

whoah ..an amp per day and 2 amps per day..

this is a long acting mix of androgens with fast and long acting types...the brouchure itself shows that the longer acting types have half lives of more than 8 weeks!

for good gains even for large BBs 1 amp PER WEEK is all that is needed. Your regime is classic example of BBs not knowing what works as they have so much stuff in their systems and the only way they can tell is to take massive doses of everything as their bodies are so saturated the usual doses virtually do nothing.

For even the national level competitor, 2 amps per week of sust (we're talking 250) is plenty. if there is no "off period" during the year then nothing works in moderate dosages.

last i heard of, 4 amps of sust cost about $80 so at 2 amps per day thats darn expensive.

whats wrong with 9 months clean per year with a 3 month cycle consisting of 12 amps of sust, gh, anapolan and stanazolol. Guarantee 10+ lbs per year solid gains using just that..probably 30 lbs for the first year.

with 90% of it retained each year too.

Thanks for the fairy tale.

[biceps]

gh15, i thought test e kicks in at about week 4-5, am i wrong?

 It takes 2 hr to 6 hr to reach maximun serum levels in the blood dipend on administration : orally, sublingually, intramuscular etc.. and you should fill stronger after 24 hr, size increase will dipend on how you train and eat. I herd this on the sobway from tow old ladies talking.

[gh15]

whoah ..an amp per day and 2 amps per day..

this is a long acting mix of androgens with fast and long acting types...the brouchure itself shows that the longer acting types have half lives of more than 8 weeks!

for good gains even for large BBs 1 amp PER WEEK is all that is needed. Your regime is classic example of BBs not knowing what works as they have so much stuff in their systems and the only way they can tell is to take massive doses of everything as their bodies are so saturated the usual doses virtually do nothing.

For even the national level competitor, 2 amps per week of sust (we're talking 250) is plenty. if there is no "off period" during the year then nothing works in moderate dosages.

last i heard of, 4 amps of sust cost about $80 so at 2 amps per day thats darn expensive.

whats wrong with 9 months clean per year with a 3 month cycle consisting of 12 amps of sust, gh, anapolan and stanazolol. Guarantee 10+ lbs per year solid gains using just that..probably 30 lbs for the first year.

with 90% of it retained each year too.

1 amp a week is hrt doses that only good to maybe keep yuor sex drive and stamina in older age individual as in 40+,,those will also be prescribed testosterone enantat not susta ,,susta is a hormone though not specifically mentioned by organon..susta is a hormone that is designed for bodybuilding purposes and bodybuilding purposes only,,organon knows there are many bodybuilder and fitness fanatiks around the world and thus susta,,for hrt there is enantat and cyponate,,

now as i said 1 amp of susta will result in lsize gains for person who never touched hormones and is quite small to average size wize and its his first run with hormones in his life,,then what you say may be true also depening on nutrition and training

there is not even one single bodybuilder i know of that uses 1 amp susta a week,,not professional not amatuer not even naturals,,some female competoitpr take the susta ampole and break it to 2 inject a week but they are females and want to stay females but that is pretty much it

[gh15]

It takes 2 hr to 6 hr to reach maximun serum levels in the blood dipend on administration : orally, sublingually, intramuscular etc.. and you should fill stronger after 24 hr, size increase will dipend on how you train and eat. I herd this on the sobway from tow old ladies talking.

NOT all testosterone is created equal and  it takes time to build up a bodybuilding teraputic level compare to simply teraputic level,,,in any case you will get level of horminess and sex drive within 6 hours on test that is true because it doesnt take much,,,but to the average bodybuilder even that will be different with susta because the average bodybuilder come to begin with from a very high concentrations of test level in blood so any off time and back on take some time for a build up ,,sometimes even 10 days for sex drive to be back up at full

for greenies and the ones who cycle 2 month cycles which are not many in the top amatuer and pro level ..yes it will take 5 hours to get horny and want to jack off...but for the bodybuilder with experience take little longer on test enantat and even little longer than that on susta ,,should not be more than 10-14 days though,,

this is also the reason many take viagra cialis etc ,,pay attention who take it...the ones who are real competetive high level bodybuilders,,not all ofcourse but plenty

[one1234]

thanks gh15
but why would UGs do this..as 1 g of test powder is like $2.... ...its very cheap right and they dont save
anything by underdosing.........

thanks
one

p.s. how come ur only in US evening time??..u usually come on late nijght................

i dont know since underground labs from what i know that were in usa sold half the time fake and way underdosed hormones ,,sometimeswith products that were not even what they said they were but mainly way underdosed to a point of having a vial saying 250mg of testosterone and in reality you had in 25mg of testosteronne in the all vial,,so in this case you will need about 10 vials of the underground garbage to compare to one american pharma vial,,you just never know with underground,,many of the people behind underground are shady people with criminal back round ,,they would deal narcotics same as they deal hormones they dont give 2 shits about you and only want and aim at earning the most money in the shortest time possible,,all of them fall usually wether it is by goverment or by local crimes they commit ,,99% of them have criminal past and record and they are marked men due to other crimes

[biceps]

1 amp a week is hrt doses that only good to maybe keep yuor sex drive and stamina in older age individual as in 40+,,those will also be prescribed testosterone enantat not susta ,,susta is a hormone though not specifically mentioned by organon..susta is a hormone that is designed for bodybuilding purposes and bodybuilding purposes only,,organon knows there are many bodybuilder and fitness fanatiks around the world and thus susta,,for hrt there is enantat and cyponate,,

now as i said 1 amp of susta will result in lsize gains for person who never touched hormones and is quite small to average size wize and its his first run with hormones in his life,,then what you say may be true also depening on nutrition and training

there is not even one single bodybuilder i know of that uses 1 amp susta a week,,not professional not amatuer not even naturals,,some female competoitpr take the susta ampole and break it to 2 inject a week but they are females and want to stay females but that is pretty much it

That is a good one susta was designated for bbs

[toolarge4u]

It takes 2 hr to 6 hr to reach maximun serum levels in the blood dipend on administration : orally, sublingually, intramuscular etc.. and you should fill stronger after 24 hr, size increase will dipend on how you train and eat. I herd this on the sobway from tow old ladies talking.

well they're both wrong. Test suspension may get you results that fast.

[biceps]

well they're both wrong. Test suspension may get you results that fast.

So you telling me that Dr.Nieschlag,E from University of Munster, Germany, Meikle, W.A from University of Utah Medical School,  Randall, V.A from University of Bradford, United Kingdom etc... thy all wrong.

[koho]

last i heard of, 4 amps of sust cost about $80 so at 2 amps per day thats darn expensive.

Ouch!! Whoever is paying that deserves a ring from their supplier or an arrest cause DAMN someone is getting raped!!!! lololol...4 amps for $80?? Maybe if you are 4th or 5th generation...I've never paid more than 4.00 per amp. for sust. If there out of Pakistan, even cheaper.

[mame09]

mate in australia were paying 25 to 40 dollars and amp. thats why i refuse to buy steroids from here lol

[McFarland]

2 amps a day?!  So that's 3500 mg a test a week?  And are you to stack that with something else?  That sounds ridiculously high.

Monster irony. 

[bigkahuna]

gh15 due to the unstable levels the sust causes would this be bad for the acne prone?
Would test e be a better choice in this regard?

Thanks

[koho]

mate in australia were paying 25 to 40 dollars and amp. thats why i refuse to buy steroids from here lol

Ouch...sorry to hear that...Crazy...I live in the US

[McFarland]

Hey gh15, did you see the new news story reporting that they're figuring they've got 30-40 THOUSAND individual steroid users in the US right now based on all the customer information and credit card receipts they gathered during Operation Raw Deal?  You estimated yourself to know of at least 10,000 users, which you approximated could easily account for the whole fitness industry, which you essentially defined as anyone registered as a user on any bodybuilding or steroid board out there.  Looks like there's even more.  Seriously, if there are 40,000 users in the US right now on steroids then just go ahead and assume that anyone you've ever seen looking like anything has used or is using them.