Author Topic: Anti Patriot Act - Fox News (Read 3359 times)

gtbro1 · « **Reply #1 on:** November 04, 2007, 11:56:39 AM »

Patriot Act = Horse shit

kh300 · « **Reply #2 on:** November 04, 2007, 02:40:49 PM »

what a bunch of bullshit. there is a list of terrorists, and potential terrorists. these people used to do as they please, and we would know nothing about what they were doing or where they are. the patriot act was created for them, and them only. not for you. nobody here can honestly say that one part of their privacy has been effected.

gtbro1 · « **Reply #3 on:** November 04, 2007, 02:45:25 PM »

Quote from: kh300 on November 04, 2007, 02:40:49 PM

what a bunch of bullshit. there is a list of terrorists, and potential terrorists. these people used to do as they please, and we would know nothing about what they were doing or where they are. the patriot act was created for them, and them only. not for you. nobody here can honestly say that one part of their privacy has been effected.

maybe it hasn't...but I think the point is that it could be if the wrong people were in a position to abuse the authority..I don't think anyone thinks that they honestly do violate our rights as much as they think that they COULD if they chose to. That's my opinion anyway.

Purge_WTF · « **Reply #4 on:** November 04, 2007, 02:57:57 PM »

Quote from: gtbro1 on November 04, 2007, 02:45:25 PM

maybe it hasn't...but I think the point is that it could be if the wrong people were in a position to abuse the authority.

And the wrong people have been in power for the past 7 years.

And KH300--step away from the Kool-Aid and put your hands on your head.

Eyeball Chambers · « **Reply #5 on:** November 04, 2007, 03:08:30 PM »

Quote from: kh300 on November 04, 2007, 02:40:49 PM

what a bunch of bullshit. there is a list of terrorists, and potential terrorists. these people used to do as they please, and we would know nothing about what they were doing or where they are. the patriot act was created for them, and them only. not for you. nobody here can honestly say that one part of their privacy has been effected.

"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

-Benjamin Franklin

kh300 · « **Reply #6 on:** November 04, 2007, 05:25:36 PM »

Quote from: gtbro1 on November 04, 2007, 02:45:25 PM

maybe it hasn't...but I think the point is that it could be if the wrong people were in a position to abuse the authority..I don't think anyone thinks that they honestly do violate our rights as much as they think that they COULD if they chose to. That's my opinion anyway.

ok lets say a DHS agent "abuses" his power.. what do you mean by that? what actions could he do to constitute abuse? do you mean like tapping into someones phone line just for fun?

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #7 on:** November 04, 2007, 05:41:55 PM »

I'm for an ANTI-

act. We can pass it in the middle of the night before anybody reads it!

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #8 on:** November 04, 2007, 05:49:24 PM »

HOLY SHIT! I just watched that video.... Was that guy ever invited back to Fox News? I doubt it... I am blown away that this was aired on Fox. I remember quite well everyone on Fox getting all bent out of shape at progressives and many others attacking the patriot act with those same words... And for all the people calling Alex Jones nuts, these words by this guy were right out of Alex's rants.

Hedgehog · « **Reply #9 on:** November 04, 2007, 11:11:20 PM »

Quote from: Berserker on November 04, 2007, 05:49:24 PM

HOLY SHIT! I just watched that video.... Was that guy ever invited back to Fox News? I doubt it... I am blown away that this was aired on Fox. I remember quite well everyone on Fox getting all bent out of shape at progressives and many others attacking the patriot act with those same words... And for all the people calling Alex Jones nuts, these words by this guy were right out of Alex's rants.

It's called "Teh Hillary Clinton Campaign".

I told you.

I wonder how I-One will justify his Hillary vote after the election.

headhuntersix · « **Reply #10 on:** November 05, 2007, 07:49:38 AM »

Until one of u guys is rounded up..I'd stop worring about the patriot act. I would expect Bersek to be free to continue his anti NE Pat/Chavez love fest in relative peace and saftey.

Purge_WTF · « **Reply #11 on:** November 05, 2007, 08:23:43 AM »

Quote from: Berserker on November 04, 2007, 05:41:55 PM

I'm for an ANTI- act. We can pass it in the middle of the night before anybody reads it!

Colts fan.

240 is Back · « **Reply #12 on:** November 05, 2007, 08:52:22 AM »

Anthrax arrived on the day before they were to debate the Partiot Act for a televised national audience. At the exact building. Also mailed to the media heads, and dem senators, who were most opposed.

The FBI destroyed their own samples immediately so there could be no comparison. Identifying anthrax strains is easy, and they would have found the source quickly.

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #13 on:** November 05, 2007, 08:59:22 AM »

Quote from: Purge_WTF on November 05, 2007, 08:23:43 AM

Colts fan.

nope... I'm afraid the truth is much much worse, I'm a Broncos fan

I don't like the Colts, but I really hate the Patriots so yesterday, I was rooting for a team I normally love to see get beat

plus it's just fun to watch a close matchup even if you don't like the teams.

I do find it oddly convenient that there are so many Colts and Patriots fans out there, maybe I should become one too

not...

Sorry for diverting the thread, back to the patriot act

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #14 on:** November 05, 2007, 09:00:57 AM »

Quote from: headhuntersix on November 05, 2007, 07:49:38 AM

Until one of u guys is rounded up..I'd stop worring about the patriot act. I would expect Bersek to be free to continue his anti NE Pat/Chavez love fest in relative peace and saftey.

Yes, follow HH6's advice... Don't do anything until it's to late! Sound advice indeed!

Dos Equis · « **Reply #15 on:** November 05, 2007, 10:04:33 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on November 05, 2007, 08:52:22 AM

Anthrax arrived on the day before they were to debate the Partiot Act for a televised national audience. At the exact building. Also mailed to the media heads, and dem senators, who were most opposed.

The FBI destroyed their own samples immediately so there could be no comparison. Identifying anthrax strains is easy, and they would have found the source quickly.

Good Lord. Another conspiracy . . . .

240 is Back · « **Reply #16 on:** November 05, 2007, 10:11:39 AM »

Quote from: Beach Bum on November 05, 2007, 10:04:33 AM

Good Lord. Another conspiracy . . . .

Who said anything about a consipracy?

Did you even know that anthrax was the sole reason the patriot act (planned and completed right BEFORE 9/11 mind you), even passed?

The Act was so intrusive that even after 9/11, it was going to get demolished on the senate floor. But, conveniently, anthrax shut down the building and they had to vote without debating it, or even READING all of it.

Please tell me what facts I have wrong here. Because if my facts are all correct, then I have a reality. YOU would be the one with some crazy conspiracy here. I'm just repeating facts.

Dos Equis · « **Reply #17 on:** November 05, 2007, 10:25:47 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on November 05, 2007, 10:11:39 AM

Who said anything about a consipracy?

Did you even know that anthrax was the sole reason the patriot act (planned and completed right BEFORE 9/11 mind you), even passed?

The Act was so intrusive that even after 9/11, it was going to get demolished on the senate floor. But, conveniently, anthrax shut down the building and they had to vote without debating it, or even READING all of it.

Please tell me what facts I have wrong here. Because if my facts are all correct, then I have a reality. YOU would be the one with some crazy conspiracy here. I'm just repeating facts.

Dude . . . do you like hear voices in your head? I guess if this wasn't literally the 5th or 6th mass conspiracy you have advocated, I might be able to take you seriously. Dang man. . . . $:-\$

240 is Back · « **Reply #18 on:** November 05, 2007, 10:28:07 AM »

Quote from: Beach Bum on November 05, 2007, 10:25:47 AM

Dude . . . do you like hear voices in your head? I guess if this wasn't literally the 5th or 6th mass conspiracy you have advocated, I might be able to take you seriously. Dang man. . . . $:-\$

I didn't say there was any conspiracy here.

I pointed out the facts.

Anthrax disrupted discussion of Patriot Act, and directly affected the key leaders and buildings, as well as media who would be reporting upon it.

Do you disupte these facts, reported by the mainstream media?

headhuntersix · « **Reply #19 on:** November 05, 2007, 03:31:22 PM »

Any of u guys responding to these threads from a concentration camp..anybody at all...guys....

Dos Equis · « **Reply #20 on:** November 05, 2007, 03:38:24 PM »

Quote from: headhuntersix on November 05, 2007, 03:31:22 PM

Any of u guys responding to these threads from a concentration camp..anybody at all...guys....

Right. The sky is not falling. I doubt most people have seen their lives change much since the Patriot Act was enacted.

sync pulse · « **Reply #21 on:** November 05, 2007, 04:49:02 PM »

People who argue, "If you have nothing to hide, why should you worry?" will change their tune if the opposition uses the increased powers to do something that THEY don't like.

Dos Equis · « **Reply #22 on:** November 05, 2007, 05:09:23 PM »

Quote from: sync pulse on November 05, 2007, 04:49:02 PM

People who argue, "If you have nothing to hide, why should you worry?" will change their tune if the opposition uses the increased powers to do something that THEY don't like.

That's a valid concern. I don't think anyone likes giving up freedoms. The issue is whether we make sacrifices to keep us all safer. 911 has really changed things.

That said, I do think that for the most part law-abiding citizens don't really have much to worry about.

sync pulse · « **Reply #23 on:** November 05, 2007, 05:26:23 PM »

Again, what if THEY used the powers granted to the Federal Government to... Lets get REALLY hypothetical, persecute doctors, pharmacies, and pharmaceutical companies who seek to help athletes with medically supervised steroid cycles.

..of course,this a really out there example, we know that this will NEVER happen, never in a million years.

I do think that for the most part law-abiding citizens don't really have much to worry about.....

Purge_WTF · « **Reply #24 on:** November 05, 2007, 05:51:31 PM »

Quote from: Berserker on November 05, 2007, 08:59:22 AM

nope... I'm afraid the truth is much much worse, I'm a Broncos fan I don't like the Colts, but I really hate the Patriots so yesterday, I was rooting for a team I normally love to see get beat plus it's just fun to watch a close matchup even if you don't like the teams.

I do find it oddly convenient that there are so many Colts and Patriots fans out there, maybe I should become one too not...

Sorry for diverting the thread, back to the patriot act

Yes, back to the Patriot Act:

It sucks.