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Meso_z

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any tear possibilities while dling?
« on: November 06, 2007, 12:22:05 PM »
I was wondering if there are any possibilities of tearing something while doing dealdifts...

Always when i deadlift my arm with the underhand grip (my "weak" arm - left) seems to have a lot of stress from the movement....and im always cautious when going heavy....

Should i be concerned?
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Re: any tear possibilities while dling?
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2007, 12:53:37 PM »
Bicep, hamstring, forearm?

Your biggest concern should be your knees and lower back
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Re: any tear possibilities while dling?
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2007, 01:16:51 PM »
Quote from: cap86 on November 06, 2007, 12:53:37 PM
Bicep, hamstring, forearm?

Your biggest concern should be your knees and lower back

No im serious....about my biceps....IF there are any possibilities...

I don't have any problems with back or knees...not yet  ;)
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Re: any tear possibilities while dling?
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2007, 01:20:44 PM »
Quote from: Meso_z on November 06, 2007, 01:16:51 PM
No im serious....about my biceps....IF there are any possibilities...

I don't have any problems with back or knees...not yet  ;)
So am I.  You can have problems and tear it.  Vince Basile tore his bicep with 600lb deadlift.  I had wierd strains and bicep bruising when I was deadlifiting heavy.
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Re: any tear possibilities while dling?
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2007, 01:41:48 PM »
Quote from: Meso_z on November 06, 2007, 12:22:05 PM
I was wondering if there are any possibilities of tearing something while doing dealdifts...

Always when i deadlift my arm with the underhand grip (my "weak" arm - left) seems to have a lot of stress from the movement....and im always cautious when going heavy....

Should i be concerned?

Stick with a double overhand grip for deadlifts.

I know 3 guys who tore their bicep maxing out on deadlifts with a over/under grip.

the rotation of the palm places alot of stress on the bicep because the bicep helps control the rotation of the hand to a degree.

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Re: any tear possibilities while dling?
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2007, 03:27:40 AM »
Ok...thanks guys.... ;)

Is it a good idea to change arms positioning? i mean have the right underhand instead of the left and left overhand.....
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Re: any tear possibilities while dling?
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2007, 05:13:12 AM »
Quote from: Meso_z on November 06, 2007, 12:22:05 PM
I was wondering if there are any possibilities of tearing something while doing dealdifts...

Always when i deadlift my arm with the underhand grip (my "weak" arm - left) seems to have a lot of stress from the movement....and im always cautious when going heavy....

Should i be concerned?

yes there is always a possibility, but if your a natural i find it very high unlikely tho. Personally i never do the under/over grip....2 reasons: i feel it twists my back a bit+underhand grip puts alot stress right on the biceps. instead when i go really heavy and my grip cant handle the weight i use straps and a overhand grip.

they key (for protecting biceps) when you start the movement is that you arms should be straight....if they arent and you pull a heavy weight from the floor (specially with the mixed grip) bad things could happen to your biceps.

obviously there are other dangers when deadlifting: lower back, hamstrings etc..as cap86 mentioned.

personally i think if your a bodybuilder you should mostly focus on rack deadlifts (starting the movement just below your knees or so)
75% of the time and do regular deadlifts wth medium weights of the floor with a wide grip the remaining 25%.
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Re: any tear possibilities while dling?
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2007, 05:39:56 AM »
This guy tore his bicep,but completed the lift anyway!!

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Re: any tear possibilities while dling?
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2007, 05:41:04 AM »
Quote from: wes on November 07, 2007, 05:39:56 AM
This guy tore his bicep,but completed the lift anyway!!



his post tear biceps look like cutlers
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Re: any tear possibilities while dling?
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2007, 06:56:18 AM »
Quote from: wes on November 07, 2007, 05:39:56 AM
This guy tore his bicep,but completed the lift anyway!!



 :o holy shit!!! Thanks for the "encouraging"  :-X :-X :-X :-\ :-\ :-\

 ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: any tear possibilities while dling?
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2007, 08:07:14 AM »
That is hardcore  :o
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Re: any tear possibilities while dling?
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2007, 08:41:54 AM »
Quote from: Meso_z on November 07, 2007, 03:27:40 AM
Ok...thanks guys.... ;)

Is it a good idea to change arms positioning? i mean have the right underhand instead of the left and left overhand.....

Just stick with double overhand and use straps for bodybuilding.

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Re: any tear possibilities while dling?
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2007, 08:48:03 AM »
I can easily handle a hundred lbs or better with the over under grip but the double overhand you can still tear the bicep. Just do what someone else suggesting and pull with your arms straight and as relaxed as you can get. The biggest concern is always a bicep tear but your hams can go just as fast.


This is why you perfect your form FIRST like you should do with EVERY exercise and build off it. That way when you get to heavier shit it's so engrained you don't have to worry about it and just perform the lift.
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Re: any tear possibilities while dling?
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2007, 09:39:15 AM »
Quote from: thewickedtruth on November 07, 2007, 08:48:03 AM
I can easily handle a hundred lbs or better with the over under grip but the double overhand you can still tear the bicep. Just do what someone else suggesting and pull with your arms straight and as relaxed as you can get. The biggest concern is always a bicep tear but your hams can go just as fast.


This is why you perfect your form FIRST like you should do with EVERY exercise and build off it. That way when you get to heavier shit it's so engrained you don't have to worry about it and just perform the lift.
Great advice......work up in weight slowly over time,keep form textbook perfect,avoid maxing out too often or at all for that matter.
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Re: any tear possibilities while dling?
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2007, 09:50:48 AM »
Quote from: Meso_z on November 06, 2007, 01:16:51 PM
No im serious....about my biceps....IF there are any possibilities...


Of course.  Anything's possible.  There are too many variables involved, though, for anyone here to make a reasonable prediction about the likelihood of YOU tearing something.
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Re: any tear possibilities while dling?
« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2007, 10:22:09 AM »
A few more pics that will make you want to stop training and take up checkers!!  :)




1960`s powerlifting legend George Frenn has squatted over 800 pounds but in this pic he dioes a mere 605 pounds.
The catch......his leg is in a cast.

Talk about determination!!



Some serious weight!!

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Re: any tear possibilities while dling?
« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2007, 08:21:34 PM »
Quote from: wes on November 07, 2007, 10:22:09 AM
A few more pics that will make you want to stop training and take up checkers!!  :)




LMAO, this has always been one of my favs ;D
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Re: any tear possibilities while dling?
« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2007, 06:57:30 AM »
Quote from: PANDAEMONIUM on November 07, 2007, 08:21:34 PM
LMAO, this has always been one of my favs ;D
thats art: "union of head and knee"
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Re: any tear possibilities while dling?
« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2007, 07:33:38 AM »
Quote from: slaveboy1980 on November 08, 2007, 06:57:30 AM
thats art: "union of head and knee"

hahahah!
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Re: any tear possibilities while dling?
« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2007, 01:08:11 PM »
Quote from: slaveboy1980 on November 08, 2007, 06:57:30 AM
thats art: "union of head and knee"

Thats "abstract art"  :-X :-X :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Anyway, thanks for all the responses  ;)
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Re: any tear possibilities while dling?
« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2007, 10:09:09 PM »
The main reason for tearing during deadlifts (which actually both Nash and and Mike Ruggiera were unfortunate to experience over the last few weekends), is usually that the arm isn't completely straight/locked out throughout the pull, ie you keep it in a slightly curled position.

Two reasons for that IMO:

1. Grip not strong enough.

2. Not flexible enough in the arm.


These are just my thoughts though.
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Re: any tear possibilities while dling?
« Reply #21 on: November 11, 2007, 06:46:20 AM »
i popped my hamstring doing these a few weeks ago... my advise would to be throughly warmed up before, 5 to 10 on the treadmill with some good stretching afterwards..... keep your reps above 5 too

ive had a niggling problem with my right bicep for some time now, never thought it could be down to the overhand grip on these... might just dump them all together when im back
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