Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??

[NarcissisticDeity]

You must have the same prescription glasses as ND if you think Sergio comes anywhere near Ronnie in these pics

In terms of muscle balance & proportion and natural structure he surpasses Ronnie in terms of muscularity & detail NO , I'm talking only the fore mentioned.

[Hulkster]

You must have the same prescription glasses as ND if you think Sergio comes anywhere near Ronnie in these pics

ND needs a new prescription for his brain, never mind his stevie wonder eyes..

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND needs a new prescription for his brain, never mind his stevie wonder eyes..

Are you back to claiming his balance & proportion and natural structure aren't as good as Ronnies? you finally cracked and admitted the obvious Dorian has the advantage and now I'll have to keep correcting you until you get it through you're head , Sergio crushes Ronnie purely from this aspect .

[Matt C]

don't presume to think for me , he sure beats Ronnie in terms of natural structure and balance & proportion , and that pose showcases Sergio's structure and proportions thats why I posted it , among others.

Let's see them.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Let's see them.

Obviously you haven't been following the thread , go back and see all the pics I posted and then I'll accept your apology , if you're men enough to give it 

[Hulkster]

LOL ND is getting owned all the time on so many threads at once.

its great!

maybe one day he will realize how wrong he is when it comes to phyisque assesements.

then again, maybe not:

[bizzy]

Ronnie's weaknesses in top form 1999.
1. Genetically odd shaped abs.

Sergio's weaknesses in top form 1972.
1. Lack of back width
2. Lack of back thickness.
3. No peak on biceps.
4. Conditioning was OK but lacking.

[Hulkster]

there is no comparison between peak sergio and 99 Ronnie - just look at that.

but then again, is it really fair? because Ronnie 99 is arguably the greatest overall physique ever seen onstage to date.

[Matt C]

you can't have great balance & proportion when you're calves are nonexistent or your forearms are shaped like bowling pins and are dwarfed by your biceps/triceps and your torso is short and your glutes can be seen from the front and I hate to break it to you Matt you can see these flaws in Ronnie in every single pose , from every single angle

And ironically Hulkster has already argued Ronnie has more detail in his back than Yates lol

All of these arguments are grasping at straws.  Sergio has just as many small flaws as this and more.

As for Hulkster, he sometimes says silly things too lol.

[Hulkster]

what really makes no sense with ND is that he can be so picky with the list of ronnie flaws, and yet not care that dorian has so many major flaws that most people rag on his physique on these boards daily..

ND is biased against Ronnie, but doesn't seem to care about everyone elses flaws..

[Matt C]

what really makes no sense with ND is that he can be so picky with the list of ronnie flaws, and yet not care that dorian has so many major flaws that most people rag on his physique on these boards daily..

ND is biased against Ronnie, but doesn't seem to care about everyone elses flaws..

That's exactly my point.  He picks a dozen little flaws in Ronnie which are indeed accurate but seems to ignore a list of an equal or greater number of flaws on his heroes.

[brian36]

I wouldn't worry about it Hulkster, not many take ND seriously.

[Hulkster]

whats worse? having huge but bowling pin shaped forearms or looking like this?

 

the guy makes no fucking sense .

[Hulkster]

I wouldn't worry about it Hulkster, not many take ND seriously.

this is true.

why would anyone who posts such stupidity be taken seriously?

most just laugh at ND.

I enjoy pointing out how ridiculous he is.

[Matt C]

this is true.

why would anyone who posts such stupidity be taken seriously?

most just laugh at ND.

I enjoy pointing out how ridiculous he is.

I liken ND to a man in a straitjacket who believes that it is in fact the rest of the world that is insane.

That said, he seems to understand the irrationality of religious people yet doesn't see it in his very own opinions on bodybuilding.

[chris_mason]

I think if both men were contemporaries it would be a great battle.

[NarcissisticDeity]

LOL ND is getting owned all the time on so many threads at once.

its great!

maybe one day he will realize how wrong he is when it comes to phyisque assesements.

then again, maybe not:

Hulkser you keep typing empty words , I thought we had the conversation?  most of the people on this thread alone agree Sergio is better and they're not talking just about structure either like I am and I've proven my case already on that even your boy pumpster knows this you're the only idiot in denial lol

and how am I wrong? you've yet to explain why because you can't let says everything else is equal with Sergio & Ronnie ( now pay attention idiot this is structure & balance & proportion ) Sergio still is more complete because he had proportionate calves and forearms there for he enjoys advantages Ronnie doesn't i.e. he has better balance & proportion even if the structure was equal and its not

See thats called proving you wrong , instead of typing I'm wrong please explain how I am wrong ( rhetorical )

[NarcissisticDeity]

Ronnie's weaknesses in top form 1999.
1. Genetically odd shaped abs.

Sergio's weaknesses in top form 1972.
1. Lack of back width
2. Lack of back thickness.
3. No peak on biceps.
4. Conditioning was OK but lacking.

Boy you're delusional as well as dumb , his only weakness is oddly shaped abs ? lol poor muscular balance & proportion , pathetic underdeveloped calves , ummm lets see bitch tits , swollen abdomen , overdeveloped glutes that can be seen from the front

Sergio's back does NOT lack width thats just plain fucking ignorant , same with thickness I mean serious , peaked biceps isn't a weakness , Larry Scott's biceps weren't peaked never stopped them from being outstanding , although Sergio's aren't that impressive
Conditioning you'll get not fight from me .

[NarcissisticDeity]

whats worse? having huge but bowling pin shaped forearms or looking like this?

 

the guy makes no fucking sense .

Hulkster thats what called a ' straw man ' but you know that because you've been exposed for setting these up some time now  its a stupid argument , please look it up if you were smart you'd steer clear of these but then again you're not smart

1995 Olympia thats from and Dorian was UNBEATABLE

[NarcissisticDeity]

what really makes no sense with ND is that he can be so picky with the list of ronnie flaws, and yet not care that dorian has so many major flaws that most people rag on his physique on these boards daily..

ND is biased against Ronnie, but doesn't seem to care about everyone elses flaws..

When did I ever claim Dorian was without flaws? NEVER another lie , this is what you're working with? lol you have nothing so lets make shit up?

[Camel Jockey]

ND's judgement for what makes a good bb'er is flawed.. I mean he's more concerned about claves than awesome biceps, overall arms, huge legs and a perfect back. He whines about Ronnie's gut, but Ronnie gut doesn't really effect his mandatory poses. Now if ND can argue that Yates' torn bicep didn't effect his poses, then I think Ronnie can be given a pass on his stomach and less than stellar calves.

[NarcissisticDeity]

That's exactly my point.  He picks a dozen little flaws in Ronnie which are indeed accurate but seems to ignore a list of an equal or greater number of flaws on his heroes.

My hero was Steve Reeves and my friend he was with out flaws , flawless thank you.

and I'm glad you agree that the flaws do indeed exist but having poor balance & proportion is not a little flaw .

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND's judgement for what makes a good bb'er is flawed.. I mean he's more concerned about claves than awesome biceps, overall arms, huge legs and a perfect back. He whines about Ronnie's gut, but Ronnie gut doesn't really effect his mandatory poses. Now if ND can argue that Yates' torn bicep didn't effect his poses, then I think Ronnie can be given a pass on his stomach and less than stellar calves.

It's not calves alone it lack of balance & proportion within the whole body , Ronnie never won for his outstanding balance & proportion and he didn't need it to beat someone who did like Cormier however with all things being equal , size & conditioning whoever has the better balance & proportion is going to win period , whoever is more complete and is a better poser will win.

[NarcissisticDeity]

I liken ND to a man in a straitjacket who believes that it is in fact the rest of the world that is insane.

That said, he seems to understand the irrationality of religious people yet doesn't see it in his very own opinions on bodybuilding.

Matt you just contradicted yourself you're agreeing with me about Ronnie's flaws and then you're lamenting I'm some how wrong or my opinion is irrational lol how is pointing out his flaws irrational? its not he has them compared to a lot of people nothing irrational in stating the obvious.

[bizzy]

lol poor muscular balance & proportion , pathetic underdeveloped calves , ummm lets see bitch tits , swollen abdomen , overdeveloped glutes that can be seen from the front.

All of these are your opinions and at Ron's peak only one holds any water
and that is in 1998 his bitch tits were ugly. I think he took care of that by 1999 though.
Where was Ron in 1999 not proportioned?  His calves were not a standout body part but still in
proportion with his legs in 1999. The overdeveloped glutes comment is your opinion but
one I think most would disagree with. You mentioned forearms at times too but even that
is something that I believe mainly only your eyes see.

I'll stick to my original statement: Only flaw in 1999 was genetically his abs.

I'll start with forearms.. I'll post a pic you put up with Sergio and Ronnie.
Check Sergios right and then Ronnies left. (Yes, I know Sergio had better forearms
but Ronnie's were not bad and certainly not out of proportion.