Author Topic: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401K (2007 to 2022) (Read 466404 times)

BayGBM · « **Reply #75 on:** December 04, 2007, 04:04:58 PM »

Quote from: Neurotoxin on December 04, 2007, 03:39:56 PM

nov. is the best month of the yr for the stock market with historical gains of 1.7%............. -5% this past nov.

Better than "the January Effect"?

the choad · « **Reply #76 on:** December 04, 2007, 04:18:51 PM »

Quote from: BayGBM on December 04, 2007, 04:04:58 PM

Better than "the January Effect"?

Jan effect is best...I haven't owned any stocks since i was a trader many years ago..late 2000

Neurotoxin · « **Reply #77 on:** December 04, 2007, 05:37:40 PM »

since 1950, nov. has help a slightly better return in the dow......than jan. i myself thought otherwise.

War-Horse · « **Reply #78 on:** December 05, 2007, 08:51:20 AM »

great thread. Im checking in every few days.

recession may be a depression..........what do you think??

Neurotoxin · « **Reply #79 on:** December 05, 2007, 09:35:05 AM »

Quote from: War-Horse on December 05, 2007, 08:51:20 AM

great thread. Im checking in every few days.

recession may be a depression..........what do you think??

i'm thinking a deep recession lasting into 09. although, the housing and banking crisis is the worst since the 1929 depression.

i believe we're currently in the beginning stages of a recession, which IMO will kick in to the market AFTER the holiday. (floor traders and brokers need their bonus'.)

Neurotoxin · « **Reply #80 on:** December 05, 2007, 03:52:59 PM »

the Christmas rally has begun.... as expected.

youandme · « **Reply #81 on:** December 05, 2007, 03:53:40 PM »

We need more Keynesianism efforts.........mang $:-\$

Deadpool · « **Reply #82 on:** December 05, 2007, 03:58:57 PM »

Quote from: gtbro1 on December 01, 2007, 03:50:38 PM

allow me to translate:

Bush is an Idiot.

that's a given

Neurotoxin · « **Reply #83 on:** December 06, 2007, 01:21:09 PM »

market update......the "shorts" have been covering like crazy, keeping the Christmas rally strong.

BayGBM · « **Reply #84 on:** December 06, 2007, 05:48:48 PM »

Quote from: Neurotoxin on December 06, 2007, 01:21:09 PM

market update......the "shorts" have been covering like crazy, keeping the Christmas rally strong.

This is better than sex!

Keep it up!
More!
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Yeah!
Don't sotp until I tell you to!
Fuck, yeah!
Now, let's hit the shower!

Neurotoxin · « **Reply #85 on:** December 07, 2007, 03:55:23 AM »

i expect some profit taking today (fri) after the huge runup the past few days. thing's are going along as expected. i will continue to do updates to let everyone know when i'm changing direction in this crazy market environment. for now....the Christmas rally is doing well.

NT

Neurotoxin · « **Reply #86 on:** December 10, 2007, 02:41:24 AM »

not much will happen in the market on Monday. everyone's waiting until the Fed announces (tommorrow) it's decision on rate cuts.

D-bol · « **Reply #87 on:** December 10, 2007, 03:56:57 AM »

Quote from: Neurotoxin on November 12, 2007, 04:47:49 PM

bush has systematically destroyed this country financially and otherwise. our country is heading for a severe recession as a result of his failed policies. in the coming months, the stock market will come crashing down. mark my words.

cash is king !

the new recession comes due to subprime-based mortgage securities that were AAA-rated and sold to fund managers in EU and US without them giving due dilligence to the underlying asset they placed their client's funds into

easy borrowing environment will eventually lead to some sort of economic downtrun - it's been predicted by economists decades ago - nothing new...

Neurotoxin · « **Reply #88 on:** December 10, 2007, 06:38:18 AM »

be careful and don't get sucked into the "interest rate rallies".......with earnings decelerating looking forward, there's nothing to move the market past 14k and beyond. traders will push the market up to the 14k area again, where i believe it will FAIL. besides, if rates are lowered again (for WS) the dollar will continue to plunge.......which is NOT GOOD.

that's my opinion and i'm sticking to it.

Neurotoxin · « **Reply #89 on:** December 10, 2007, 01:54:19 PM »

Quote from: Alex23 is Back on December 10, 2007, 12:39:01 PM

What's your rate cut prediction? is .50 a given?

general consensus .25bp cut

Neurotoxin · « **Reply #90 on:** December 10, 2007, 02:54:48 PM »

Quote from: Alex23 is Back on December 10, 2007, 12:39:01 PM

What's your rate cut prediction? is .50 a given?

if the fed panders to WS you will see .50bp cut.

Neurotoxin · « **Reply #91 on:** December 10, 2007, 03:15:36 PM »

keep in mind this is "bonus" season. ANYTHING short of the sun exploding will keep WS from selling this market off.

as stated before....all bets are off AFTER the holiday.

Neurotoxin · « **Reply #92 on:** December 11, 2007, 09:30:25 AM »

whenever the market is PURELY dependent on the Fed cutting rates to move HIGHER.......trouble lurks, so be careful.

IMHO.

BayGBM · « **Reply #93 on:** December 11, 2007, 12:46:34 PM »

Ouch! My biggest one day loss this year.

Neurotoxin · « **Reply #94 on:** December 11, 2007, 12:48:43 PM »

guys...please be careful. things are much worse than CNBC and Jim Cramer are willing to admit. if not for seasonality, this market would be totally screwed.

D-bol · « **Reply #95 on:** December 11, 2007, 10:45:18 PM »

careful with what? it's not that you can do much to effect economic recession...reshuffle portfolio, buy few "safe heaven" assets - but in a recessionary environment, especially consumer driven as this one is going to be, everyone's screwed one way or the other - gotta just sit it out

Neurotoxin · « **Reply #96 on:** December 12, 2007, 03:50:19 AM »

after yesterday's 300 point loss in the Dow.....expect the Plunge Protection Team to try and juice the market today.

Neurotoxin · « **Reply #97 on:** December 12, 2007, 04:50:53 AM »

market trivia: although MOST stock brokers/planners say it's "impossible to time the market." if the average stock investor put his money into the market every Oct and cashed out by May 1st every year, he would INCREASE his profits by nearly 40%.....by just avoiding exposure to the market in the summer months.

Neurotoxin · « **Reply #98 on:** December 12, 2007, 05:47:00 AM »

market info: import prices have risen 11.4% on 2007, the highest in 25 yr history of the index.

D-bol · « **Reply #99 on:** December 12, 2007, 06:02:12 AM »

Quote from: Neurotoxin on December 12, 2007, 02:02:23 AM

careful of what you ask ? if the market drops 20+ percent during this upcoming recession (recessions average 35-40% market corrections) why the fvck would you do NOTHING before the shit hits the fan ? your clearly dumb money.

if sitting in a mutual fund as it drops 20- 40 percent is fun to YOU.....enjoy yourself.

ok, i agree...so where u gonna shift money to? metals? bonds? if you have long position in the fund and it drops 4000 points today, then what exactly have you lost in a 3-5 year perspective? at the end of the day its the cash available to us on a daily basis that matters..