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Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
« Reply #75 on: November 16, 2007, 07:35:26 PM »
has potential,and mass is in spades,shape isn't too bad either,'id say 10 to 15 lbs would be ideal,but todays standard for conditioning is extreme even for the supers.if he's done this 2 yrs in a row then he's just afraid to commit to all out diet for conditioning and probably the stigma "i'll look small if i get too lean'dude this is the nationals not the best body in a night club contest.a big dude nonetheless...he would be a great bouncer.

I think that today's standards for conditioning have actually dropped from 10 years ago... too much igf-1 and slin abuse makes these dudes conditioning look like crap... Compare thise years Olympia (and all the other shows from this year) to the Olympia and all other shows 10 years ago... HUGE step in the wrong direction with the conditioning in my opinion.  The judges know how rampant the igf-1/gh/slin combos are, and have lowered their standards cause everyone does it... :-\

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Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
« Reply #76 on: November 16, 2007, 07:44:58 PM »
has potential,and mass is in spades,shape isn't too bad either,'id say 10 to 15 lbs would be ideal,but todays standard for conditioning is extreme even for the supers.if he's done this 2 yrs in a row then he's just afraid to commit to all out diet for conditioning and probably the stigma "i'll look small if i get too lean'dude this is the nationals not the best body in a night club contest.a big dude nonetheless...he would be a great bouncer.

A great bouncer? He's 5'6. You need to take that into account.

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Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
« Reply #77 on: November 16, 2007, 07:54:19 PM »
Potential? I'm with Overload.....dead pool candidate...sorry

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Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
« Reply #78 on: November 16, 2007, 08:05:10 PM »
A great bouncer? He's 5'6. You need to take that into account.

At his size, I'm not sure if it would be a big deal.

Are you saying that the 6'1 and 1/2 Gunter would make a better bouncer?
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Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
« Reply #79 on: November 16, 2007, 08:10:29 PM »
At his size, I'm not sure if it would be a big deal.

Are you saying that the 6'1 and 1/2 Gunter would make a better bouncer?

Maybe... I have no idea how much Jeff weighs in the offseason, or in contest..

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Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
« Reply #80 on: November 16, 2007, 08:16:09 PM »
At his size, I'm not sure if it would be a big deal.

Are you saying that the 6'1 and 1/2 Gunter would make a better bouncer?
who hires midgets for bouncers ::)

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Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
« Reply #81 on: November 16, 2007, 08:22:49 PM »
he's 1 big fucker, yeah totally agree he needed a couple of more weeks then he'd look that much better, huge gut to needs to keep that in check
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Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
« Reply #82 on: November 16, 2007, 08:29:24 PM »
I judged Jeff in a few NJ shows and told him numerous times he needs to learn to diet right. His dad was there and he kept disagreeing saying he needs to carb up more and get "as big as a fuckin house!"  Those were his dads exact words.  Jeff's other issue is his nutritionist John Oreagon.  John has his guys take a TON OF SHIT!  They come in full and huge but rarely conditioned enough.  The only guy he ever had success with was Capriese Murray.  Jeff could do very well but he has to get ALOT leaner and get his midsection under control.  At least his arms are pretty much back to normal from all the Synthol he used.  There are a few training vids of him on MD and his arms are all shot up with that crap.  They look huge now though.

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this is my observation of this fella: gh insulin aas ,,whats going on in that house of his is a pharmacy on a chub irish kid with good respond to hormones ,,take the hormones away and you will find him with same size gut yet half the size at 190lb in your local ymca,,
his main problem is that his muscles look puffed even when cut and ripped ,,they look fake ,,like a blow up doll ,,ummm how do i say it nicely,,umm,,bad vesriuon of grunt? diff is grant muscle is solid and that kid is far far far from solid anything but calves which is common in american kids to have big calves even with out training due to obesity and overweight,,
only impressive when it comes to sheer size but sheer size as you can see here is defenitely not everything
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Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
« Reply #83 on: November 16, 2007, 08:29:57 PM »
A great bouncer? He's 5'6. You need to take that into account.
thats a really big dude then,if he's over 240 or 250 then thats stacked.he's plenty tall enough with that mass.i still think to be on this stage he needs to be in better overall condition.how wide must he be in person at that height.if putnam is light heavy at same height this guy is 2 weight classes up.putnam is in better condition of course,but from a size differential sheesh....

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Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
« Reply #84 on: November 16, 2007, 08:38:17 PM »
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Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
« Reply #85 on: November 16, 2007, 09:11:20 PM »
i like you you are smart
this is my observation of this fella: gh insulin aas ,,whats going on in that house of his is a pharmacy on a chub irish kid with good respond to hormones ,,take the hormones away and you will find him with same size gut yet half the size at 190lb in your local ymca,,
his main problem is that his muscles look puffed even when cut and ripped ,,they look fake ,,like a blow up doll ,,ummm how do i say it nicely,,umm,,bad vesriuon of grunt? diff is grant muscle is solid and that kid is far far far from solid anything but calves which is common in american kids to have big calves even with out training due to obesity and overweight,,
only impressive when it comes to sheer size but sheer size as you can see here is defenitely not everything

Well for once... i KNOW your wrong.  See.. i know him personally... and your observation is off.... so the great GH15 is not ALWAYS right.  I wont say what, because it is not my place... but i know 100% that 75% of that post above is way off....

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Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
« Reply #86 on: November 16, 2007, 09:21:54 PM »
This kid Jeff is a freak period!

there is nothing except conditioning (which will come with time/age maturity) to gripe about

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Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
« Reply #87 on: November 16, 2007, 09:43:15 PM »
Well for once... i KNOW your wrong.  See.. i know him personally... and your observation is off.... so the great GH15 is not ALWAYS right.  I wont say what, because it is not my place... but i know 100% that 75% of that post above is way off....

i am rarely wrong and when i am i admit it but! when it comes to bodybuilding and hormones i am never wrong not even one out of million cases,,why? because i know the routine i been HAVE been there,,pay attention to the present tense that i put in capital,,

no bodybuilder know what other bodybuilder does unless if he is that exact bodybuilder and even then the lies are dependent on speciific situation since in the usa you are all scared pussy because hormones there are controlled,,
youll never hear from a bodybuilder under his real name with real pictures the real truth about what he takes nor will you be standing in his bathroom ,,his parents will not know either,,,

it all comes out when the bodybuilder get heart attack or heart stop or lose kidny when part ,,part!,,of the truth comes out and the bodybuilder quits with shame due to health problems and other factors

this guy is puffed from hormones and his muscle is far FAR from imprssive ,,big yes huge yes impressive? not in the life time,,he also look weak! big diff between him and big eastern europian in that size,,huge diff! if the muscle = the size you will always ALWAYS LOOK STRONG,,ALWAYS,,what you see in those picturs is a heavy reliance on drugs to achieve a physiqe that is blown up and would get back to its 180-190lb within year off use

this is not a freak orinigally,,it is a guy with feaky respond to hormones which if fooloowed by serious training could do damge but i see lots of blow up doll and little of solidied muscle

ium never wrong,,but again in todays bodybuilding world everything goes,,they want size so there you have
5'6 at 240lb at 105 is hormonized to the 20th degree,,infact that kid live and swim in hormones
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Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
« Reply #88 on: November 16, 2007, 09:47:50 PM »
i am rarely wrong and when i am i admit it but! when it comes to bodybuilding and hormones i am never wrong not even one out of million cases,,why? because i know the routine i been HAVE been there,,pay attention to the present tense that i put in capital,,

no bodybuilder know what other bodybuilder does unless if he is that exact bodybuilder and even then the lies are dependent on speciific situation since in the usa you are all scared pussy because hormones there are controlled,,
youll never hear from a bodybuilder under his real name with real pictures the real truth about what he takes nor will you be standing in his bathroom ,,his parents will not know either,,,

it all comes out when the bodybuilder get heart attack or heart stop or lose kidny when part ,,part!,,of the truth comes out and the bodybuilder quits with shame due to health problems and other factors

this guy is puffed from hormones and his muscle is far FAR from imprssive ,,big yes huge yes impressive? not in the life time,,he also look weak! big diff between him and big eastern europian in that size,,huge diff! if the muscle = the size you will always ALWAYS LOOK STRONG,,ALWAYS,,what you see in those picturs is a heavy reliance on drugs to achieve a physiqe that is blown up and would get back to its 180-190lb within year off use

this is not a freak orinigally,,it is a guy with feaky respond to hormones which if fooloowed by serious training could do damge but i see lots of blow up doll and little of solidied muscle

ium never wrong,,but again in todays bodybuilding world everything goes,,they want size so there you have
5'6 at 240lb at 105 is hormonized to the 20th degree,,infact that kid live and swim in hormones

He was a muscular 230 before he used, so there goes that theory. And you are right.. hes probably weak.. 500 for reps on squats deep is pretty weak...  Thats all il say for now...

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Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
« Reply #89 on: November 16, 2007, 09:56:55 PM »
5'6 230lb unles its a fat slob at 20% is on hormones period,,500 for reps in the squat rep at 240lb ,,5-6 plates each side of bar squat is quite strong but if you have on you 240lb at 10% 5'6 you better do 8 plates each side for max reps,,you never met too many eastern europe i invite you to germany and russia,,you wont be able to finish yoru session ,,youll practically have an excuse or just puke and ask to slow down and lower weight,,so yes for a blow up 240lb doing 6 reps with 500lb is quite good in american terms but that aint no strong for the SIZE YOU ARE GIVING ME HERE,,last week a 195lb lifter 8% was working infront of me with 4 plates each side of squat for reps 10 full reps,,a month ago a 200lb 50 year old that had nothing to do with bodybuilding and looked nothing like bodybuilder did 5 plates each side of bar squat to the floor infront of me while i played with 2 each side,,yet im 3 times his muscle size....

in any casse 5'6 is a small little man.,,they dont see the number 200lb at saingle digit unless on hormones period! in this guy case he swim in hormones its a promise
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Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
« Reply #90 on: November 16, 2007, 11:13:18 PM »
This guy is a tank but he needs to change some thing around if he plans to have a future in bodybuilding. His conditioning was way off and his physique is a look that isn't one of quality, mature muscle yet.

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Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
« Reply #91 on: November 17, 2007, 12:03:43 AM »
NPC competitor Jeff Long (not to be confused with the IFBB pro of the same name) has added a TON of size from last year's nationals. He's moved up from heavyweight to superheavyweight. Very impressive mass, and I think he's only about 5'6 and 24 years old.


MASS is the key word here! Definitely needs to work on conditioning. What is someone like that thinking showing up in that kind of condition ???

I can understand if its a small local show. But this guy is a high caliber amatuer with a lot of potential. He needs to get in shape!

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Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
« Reply #92 on: November 17, 2007, 02:36:54 AM »
The dude's quads and hams are crap in those competition pics. There is NO definition in his hams and his quads are shallow and lacking the conditioning that his upper body has. He needs to work on those for a start.

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Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
« Reply #93 on: November 17, 2007, 02:43:21 AM »
he looks like another blow up insulin doll. huge gut to go with it like allways. and gut will get bigger.

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Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
« Reply #94 on: November 17, 2007, 03:10:06 AM »
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Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
« Reply #95 on: November 17, 2007, 04:38:33 AM »
Anyone know what his weight in competition is this year? That info always seems to be lacking.













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Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
« Reply #96 on: November 17, 2007, 05:23:29 AM »
Anyone know what his weight in competition is this year? That info always seems to be lacking.













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Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
« Reply #97 on: November 17, 2007, 05:35:19 AM »
Anyone know what his weight in competition is this year? That info always seems to be lacking.


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Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
« Reply #98 on: November 17, 2007, 05:52:14 AM »
Very massive and impressive, but he is not ripped enough :-[

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Re: NPC Competitor Jeff Long!!!
« Reply #99 on: November 17, 2007, 05:54:56 AM »
alot of gurus on here. It's amazing how from a couple of photos of a guy standing relaxed the getbig gurus can pinpoint exactly what drugs this kid is taking.  ::)
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