Lee Priest's usage, in detail from Lee Himself

[the Pure Majestic]

He ran more than that, didn't he???

Do you ever wonder why you could suffer through college to get a degree, and still convince yourself that your 3 week out of a contest binges were helping you?
Were you depressed when you were "into" meth, or was it just a fun time for you? 
Why do you periodically care about bodybuilding when you're never going to do what it takes to get into shape?  And, you know the talk at your work about your "transformation" will be more trouble than it is worth, right? 

It's okay Jeff, I don't expect an answer.

Is Mike doing better lately?  Or is he still struggling?

[DVSGOD]

Lee is a TRUE FREAK.

The fact is that he looked far better at 19 than any of us could ever look regardless of the amount of drugs we could ever get our paws on.

We all know guys who are juiced to the gills and still look like crap.
So why not give credit to a guy who doesn't need a lot of gear to look sick?

GET BIG NATION

Lee was juicing @ 19 , he failed a drug test at the worlds.I beleive he started "using" at 14 but that is speculation,hope this helps

[Camel Jockey]

Lee is a TRUE FREAK.

The fact is that he looked far better at 19 than any of us could ever look regardless of the amount of drugs we could ever get our paws on.

We all know guys who are juiced to the gills and still look like crap.
So why not give credit to a guy who doesn't need a lot of gear to look sick?

GET BIG NATION

amen

the guy was and still is a freak..

and he got shafted various times in his career.. Maybe the greatest short bb'er of alltime.

[the Pure Majestic]

Lee was juicing @ 19 , he failed a drug test at the worlds.I beleive he started "using" at 14 but that is speculation,hope this helps

Your speculation just made us all feel better about our lack of progress.  Thanks for finding that out. 
I'm so glad I have a viable excuse for my failures now.

[DVSGOD]

Your speculation just made us all feel better about our lack of progress.  Thanks for finding that out. 
I'm so glad I have a viable excuse for my failures now.

Its not my speculation so i cant take credit for helping with your failure as a person 

Failed drug test at 19 is 100 % true though
I was just pointing out ,you cant compare him at 19 to your average gym junkie as he had already been on the top up hormone route for a while.
Clear??

[the Pure Majestic]

Its not my speculation so i cant take credit for helping with your failure as a person 

Failed drug test at 19 is 100 % true though
I was just pointing out ,you cant compare him at 19 to your average gym junkie as he had already been on the top up hormone route for a while.
Clear??

Of course. 
your average gym junkie looks like us.  Clearly he was using something that we're not, right? 
If you and I had access to what he does, we'd be huge! 
I'm so glad we can talk about what happened 15 years ago and use it to hide our insecurities. 

[The Coach]

Milos says the pro's only use 750mg test and 250-100mg of other anabolics, so it must be true.

No, it IS true, but what he doesn't tell you is the 40-80IU's of insulin they use to make up for it. I'd much rather take more gear than that much insulin!

[The Squadfather]

No, it IS true, but what he doesn't tell you is the 40-80IU's of insulin they use to make up for it. I'd much rather take more gear than that much insulin!

why would anyone in their right mind besides a diabetic take insulin?

[The_Leafy_Bug]

why would anyone in their right mind besides a diabetic take insulin?

It is more anabolic the sex hormones.

[The Squadfather]

It is more anabolic the sex hormones.

hahahha, yeah but at what price? looking like Cutler at the Olympia?

[the Pure Majestic]

No, it IS true, but what he doesn't tell you is the 40-80IU's of insulin they use to make up for it. I'd much rather take more gear than that much insulin!

Do you know a lot about insulin?  
How does insulin's effect on its receptor effect oxidation of fatty acids?  I've always been curious about that.  
I'm guessing that because you know so much about it, you'll be able to tell me that.  

Does insulin have a pronounced effect on glycogenesis?  If it does, why is this important?  

Actually, you're so lean right now it may not be safe for you to use the precious amount of glucose it would take to explain the intricate details of the physiology of insulin to me.  
Just focus on your show for now.  
When the show is done, and the ability of your neural synapses to conduct proper chemical messages is restored, you can inform us all about the true effects of insulin.  

[The Coach]

why would anyone in their right mind besides a diabetic take insulin?

I agree, you'd have to believe that it's safe to use that in that quantity, Milos' has a tenency to mislead in believing it's safe, but it is the most powerful anabolic, but you're sacrificing size for your life. There have been studies that link small amount of insulin usage for longevity in the elderly.

[The_Leafy_Bug]

hahahha, yeah but at what price? looking like Cutler at the Olympia?

Derek Anthony once said (yea i know its really dependable) that GH was what bloated his gut. I have also known people to use it who praise it highly. Plus it is legal and easy to use.

[The Coach]

Do you know a lot about insulin?  
How does insulin's effect on its receptor effect oxidation of fatty acids?  I've always been curious about that.  
I'm guessing that because you know so much about it, you'll be able to tell me that.  

Does insulin have a pronounced effect on glycogenesis?  If it does, why is this important?  

Actually, you're so lean right now it may not be safe for you to use the precious amount of glucose it would take to explain the intricate details of the physiology of insulin to me.  
Just focus on your show for now.  
When the show is done, and the ability of your neural synapses to conduct proper chemical messages is restored, you can inform us all about the true effects of insulin.  

Yes, I know enough to know that ost of what you say is correct, but effects in that quantity far outweigh the benefits. not only does it damage almost every internal organ, but screws up almost every delivery system in the endocrine system, long term effects are detramental epecially using that high of IU's.

By the way, unlike Milos', there have been clinical case studies on this that back precisly what I'm talking about.

[the Pure Majestic]

I agree, you'd have to believe that it's safe to use that in that quantity, Milos' has a tenency to mislead in believing it's safe, but it is the most powerful anabolic, but you're sacrificing size for your life. There have been studies that link small amount of insulin usage for longevity in the elderly.

You must have spent years studying this.  
What symposiums can I hear your research at?  
does insulin have any effect on glutamate binding?  I'm not sure on this.  If it does, is there an agonistic effect, or antagonistic effect on GABA?  I'm guessing that as a CNS depressant, there would be a depresant effect.  But, of course with how it effects the urinary excretion rate, one cannot be sure, right?  

I'm so glad we have a master of endocrinology here to let us all know the truth!

[The Coach]

Derek Anthony once said (yea i know its really dependable) that GH was what bloated his gut. I have also known people to use it who praise it highly. Plus it is legal and easy to use.

GH won't do that, insulin will!

[Mad Nickels]

You must have spent years studying this.  
What symposiums can I hear your research at?  
does insulin have any effect on glutamate binding?  I'm not sure on this.  If it does, is there an agonistic effect, or antagonistic effect on GABA?  I'm guessing that as a CNS depressant, there would be a depresant effect.  But, of course with how it effects the urinary excretion rate, one cannot be sure, right?  

I'm so glad we have a master of endocrinology here to let us all know the truth!

gayer than cutting and pasting from google.

[the Pure Majestic]

Yes, I know enough to know that ost of what you say is correct, but effects in that quantity far outweigh the benefits. not only does it damage almost every internal organ, but screws up almost every delivery system in the endocrine system, long term effects are detramental epecially using that high of IU's.

By the way, unlike Milos', there have been clinical case studies on this that back precisly what I'm talking about.

I've often wondered if there were any definitive oxidative damages to organs.  I'm so glad you cleared that up.
I bet you could make a fortune informing the doctor's of the world about this.  

I've always figured that, while it was our ability to digest and utilize glucose for fuel that allowed us to reach such a high social stature, it would also be our demise from a health standpoint.  

Mother nature sure is a bitch, right?  

There is a big confrence on diabetes, oxidative damage, and insulin's unique effects on the insulin receptor here in the UK.   Perhaps you could present your research for the world?

[the Pure Majestic]

gayer than cutting and pasting from google.

I know.  Insulin has no effect on NMDA.  What was I thinking by posting that?
I'm sure glad you created the implication that my post was taken as a direct quote from an internet site that google linked me to.

Egg is most certainly on my face. 

I'm guessing that the plethora of nickels you've earned over the years is derived of an intellectual medium, right? 

[Mad Nickels]

I know.  Insulin has no effect on NMDA.  What was I thinking by posting that?
I'm sure glad you created the implication that my post was taken as a direct quote from an internet site that google linked me to.

Egg is most certainly on my face. 

I'm guessing that the plethora of nickels you've earned over the years is derived of an intellectual medium, right? 

Come to nevada for the O.  I'll bitchslap your silly ass up and down the street.

[The Coach]

I've often wondered if there were any definitive oxidative damages to organs.  I'm so glad you cleared that up.
I bet you could make a fortune informing the doctor's of the world about this.  

I've always figured that, while it was our ability to digest and utilize glucose for fuel that allowed us to reach such a high social stature, it would also be our demise from a health standpoint.  

Mother nature sure is a bitch, right?  

There is a big confrence on diabetes, oxidative damage, and insulin's unique effects on the insulin receptor here in the UK.   Perhaps you could present your research for the world?

LOL....check JAMA and the BJM, they are not my case studies, they are studies that I have read.

[The_Leafy_Bug]

GH won't do that, insulin will!

wheres your evidence?

[the Pure Majestic]

LOL....check JAMA and the BJM, they are not my case studies, they are studies that I have read.

Oh, "my bad."  
I'm sure only peer reviewable literature allows proper "citing" of these studies.  That must certainly be the reason you can't post these breakthrough studies here.  

Do you frequent the MEDLINE source boards?  Perhaps you can cite those links on the endocrinolgy section?  Then, all of us can research them in full.  I'm trusting that you have a MEDLINE account, and aren't just using misleading abstracts to base your knowledge on.  Right, coach?  

good luck on your show!  That back fat is almost gone!  You're going to tear apart those "youngsters!"

[the Pure Majestic]

Come to nevada for the O.  I'll bitchslap your silly ass up and down the street.

Et tu Brute!  You're quite the violent one.  I bet you're a force to be reckoned with.  What if the proposed situation didn't arise? 
I'm not sure of the exact idea behind the proposition. 
Am I agreeing to you "bitchslapping me up and down the street?"

In that realm, I'm clearly admiting defeat just by "catching your lob." 

Am I allowed a bathroom break at any point?  Please remember that I'm a bodybuilder, and must carry my gallon of water at all times.  This causes frequent needs for urination. 

[DVSGOD]

GH won't do that, insulin will!

How so?
Insulin in higher amounts will cause fat acclumination ,so you get adipose tissue like a fat tummy,the guts you see on the pros are not fat as there bodyfat levels are so low , in fact there skin is like cellophane.
The guts you see are from internal bloating e.g internal organ growth,are you saying insulin causes your internal organs to grow?first Iv heard that , iv always been under the impression that it was from high gear usage and GH abuse that caused this effect?

Oh Im a diabetic also.