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Re: 495 lb Incline Press video clip shot!
« Reply #1500 on: December 07, 2007, 12:27:19 AM »
all ego, no real gains.

Also i doubt he does them full range. Maybe 1/4

hahaha, what's next...do you want me to take pics of the bottom and top of each rep?

Let me assure you - his range of motion is more than Ronnie's!

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Dorian being outmassed
« Reply #1501 on: December 07, 2007, 12:29:59 AM »
Huge Nasser is so wide in comparison that he couldn't even completely fit on the screen!


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Re: Dorian being outmassed
« Reply #1502 on: December 07, 2007, 12:37:18 AM »
Huge Nasser is so wide in comparison that he couldn't even completely fit on the screen!



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Re: Dorian being outmassed
« Reply #1503 on: December 07, 2007, 12:41:04 AM »
hahahahaha

In that comparison Nasser's beating Dorian with arms, delts, hamstrings, and calves...Dorian's back looks a bit more detailed, but not by much!  Also, overall nasser is wider and has a more pronounced v-taper than Dorian there...overall definitely looks like the better bodybuilder FROM THE BACK even....and from the front it's simply lights out!

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Re: Dorian being outmassed
« Reply #1504 on: December 07, 2007, 01:11:18 AM »
yeh i think nasser is bigger in that back shot

but i still am not a fan

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Re: Dorian being outmassed
« Reply #1505 on: December 07, 2007, 01:12:58 AM »
Dorian beating Nasser (and Shawn) on condition (by a mile I may add), balance, proportion, detail, and symmetry, hence being awarded the Sandow trophy  :)
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New Video Nasser El Sonbaty (offseason )
« Reply #1506 on: December 07, 2007, 01:15:29 AM »
Even better than having that trophy is having Nasser's physique which no one else can claim:



Nasser's life and health is in shambles from years of chasing an unbeatable competitor. He is now reduced to selling his soiled underpants online  :-X
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Re: Dorian being outmassed
« Reply #1507 on: December 07, 2007, 01:16:38 AM »
Dorian beating Nasser (and Shawn) on condition (by a mile I may add), balance, proportion, detail, and symmetry, in IFBB politics hence being awarded the Sandow trophy  :)

Fixed  :D

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New Video Nasser El Sonbaty (offseason )
« Reply #1508 on: December 07, 2007, 01:17:09 AM »
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Re: Dorian being outmassed
« Reply #1509 on: December 07, 2007, 01:17:35 AM »
yeh i think nasser is bigger in that back shot

but i still am not a fan

Thank you - the unbiased (non-fans) agree too!

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Re: Dorian being outmassed
« Reply #1510 on: December 07, 2007, 01:23:31 AM »
Fixed  :D

I'm curious as to why Nasser waited nearly 12 years to say all this stuff about the IFBB.

Why didn't he say it in 1996?

No balls I guess.
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Re: Dorian being outmassed
« Reply #1511 on: December 07, 2007, 01:26:39 AM »
yeh i think nasser is bigger in that back shot

but i still am not a fan

Bigger is NOT better. Not at the expense of condition. After 93 everybody was playing Dorian's old game. Everyone thought he won because of mass alone. But it was the combination of mass and condition that got him the title. Nasser simply couldn't compare. Why do you think a 285lb Nasser couldn't even defeat a 225lb Wheeler at the 97 AC or a 248lb Ronnie at the 98 Olympia?  ;)
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Re: Dorian being outmassed
« Reply #1512 on: December 07, 2007, 01:27:04 AM »
I'm curious as to why Nasser waited nearly 12 years to say all this stuff about the IFBB.

Why didn't he say it in 1996?

No balls I guess.

The judges were already against him, so he didn't want them to be even MORE biased against him than they already were.  Thats a no-brainer.  Now, however, he has nothing to lose since he does not plan on competing again so is exposing the politics of the IFBB.

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Re: Dorian being outmassed
« Reply #1513 on: December 07, 2007, 01:32:43 AM »
The judges were already against him, so he didn't want them to be even MORE biased against him than they already were.  Thats a no-brainer.  Now, however, he has nothing to lose since he does not plan on competing again so is exposing the politics of the IFBB.

Why were the judges against him?

Were the judges on Flex's side at the 97 AC?

Were the judges on Coleman's side at the 98 O?

Were the judges on Yates side in 1995?

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Re: Dorian being outmassed
« Reply #1514 on: December 07, 2007, 01:34:09 AM »
Bigger is NOT better. Not at the expense of condition. After 93 everybody was playing Dorian's old game. Everyone thought he won because of mass alone. But it was the combination of mass and condition that got him the title. Nasser simply couldn't compare. Why do you think a 285lb Nasser couldn't even defeat a 225lb Wheeler at the 97 AC or a 248lb Ronnie at the 98 Olympia?  ;)

1)  Dorian's "condition" does not look better in that pic above.

2)  Wheeler beat the bigger Nasser due to politics.


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Re: Dorian being outmassed
« Reply #1515 on: December 07, 2007, 01:35:43 AM »
Same old, same old....anytime Nasser loses it's because of politics  ::)

You know, they have a saying about people who do nothing but make excuses......


Oh, and Flex hasn't even finished hitting that shot yet.

So, I'm curious, why did the judges favor Flex politically?
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Re: Dorian being outmassed
« Reply #1516 on: December 07, 2007, 01:36:23 AM »
Why were the judges against him?

Were the judges on Flex's side at the 97 AC?

Were the judges on Coleman's side at the 98 O?

Were the judges on Yates side in 1995?



1)  Because he's not "American" and does not have an "American" accent.

2)  Because Flex is American.

3)  Because Ronnie is American (not to take away from Ronnie, I think his physique was incredible, however judges were not against him as they were with Nasser).

4)  Yates was a favourite since he was white (they like alternate between Black and white Mr. Olympias) and because he had rightfully won 93 and 94 so they found it hard to break that streak even though he didnt deserve it 96 or 97, and even 95 is debatable.

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Re: Dorian being outmassed
« Reply #1517 on: December 07, 2007, 01:39:09 AM »
Oh, and Flex hasn't even finished hitting that shot yet.

Uhhh...yes he is fully flexed....  He has no width compared to Nasser, he looks like a pole next to Nasser in that pic lol.  No lats either, little pec thickness, etc.

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Re: Dorian being outmassed
« Reply #1518 on: December 07, 2007, 01:40:07 AM »
1)  Because he's not "American" and does not have an "American" accent.

2)  Because Flex is American.

3)  Because Ronnie is American (not to take away from Ronnie, I think his physique was incredible, however judges were not against him as they were with Nasser).

4)  Yates was a favourite since he was white (they like alternate between Black and white Mr. Olympias) and because he had rightfully won 93 and 94 so they found it hard to break that streak even though he didnt deserve it 96 or 97, and even 95 is debatable.

Laughable, at best.

Arnold was not American.

Your logic about race is flawed. Why would they give Yates the title because he was white, yet not give it to sonbaty over Coleman?  ::)

What about Mohammed Benaziza? He defeated Yates.

And the 1995 Olympia was not debatable. From countless sources, it was over the moment Yates walked out.

Again, your logic is flawed and is clearly evident of someone just looking for excuses.

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Re: Dorian being outmassed
« Reply #1519 on: December 07, 2007, 01:42:49 AM »
Laughable, at best.

Arnold was not American.

Your logic about race is flawed. Why would they give Yates the title because he was white, yet not give it to sonbaty over Coleman?  ::)

What about Mohammed Benaziza? He defeated Yates.

And the 1995 Olympia was not debatable. From countless sources, it was over the moment Yates walked out.

Again, your logic is flawed and is clearly evident of someone just looking for excuses.



You know your opinions would be more meaningful if you didnt pick a handle like "England_1" which from the get-go makes it obvious that you are blindly biased towards Dorian.  As for your first question, I said they like to alternate between Black and White Mr. Olympias for political reasons, and Sonbaty is neither black nor white.  That also answers your second question, Mo Benaziza did not win a Mr. Olympia title. 

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Re: Dorian being outmassed
« Reply #1520 on: December 07, 2007, 01:47:33 AM »
You know your opinions would be more meaningful if you didnt pick a handle like "England_1" which from the get-go makes it obvious that you are blindly biased towards Dorian.  As for your first question, I said they like to alternate between Black and White Mr. Olympias for political reasons, and Sonbaty is neither black nor white.  That also answers your second question, Mo Benaziza did not win a Mr. Olympia title. 

Yes, but according to your logic, MoMo should not be able to beat Yates because he wasn't white and wasn't American.

Also, why would they "politically" alternate black and white Mr. Olympias? To begin with, the IFBB never had any racial issues brought against it. Sergio didn't win the Mr. Olympia three times in the 1960s because he was black, but rather because he was the best bodybuilder. This is something you just don't understand. Nasser was never the best man on the stage at the Mr. Olympia. It had nothing to do with his race or heritage (as evidence by those such as Arnold and MoMo being great champions in the IFBB), but rather his lack of conditioning and mass combination when compared to his peers. And you are in no right able to tell me about a bias when all you do is spam this board with Nasser materials. Are you going to tell me you aren't heavily biased towards Nasser? Yates needs no defense; the Sandow trophies prove everything about the man.
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Re: Nasser El Sonbaty - Threads merged
« Reply #1521 on: December 07, 2007, 01:49:44 AM »
"On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched. In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you."

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Re: 495 lb Incline Press video clip shot!
« Reply #1522 on: December 07, 2007, 01:50:43 AM »
hahaha, what's next...do you want me to take pics of the bottom and top of each rep?

Let me assure you - his range of motion is more than Ronnie's!

lmao

you're suggesting we should take the word of a proven liar that makes up shit as he goes along. ::)

how about you prove the big claim you made on this thread first. ;)

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Nasser at a bench press contest!
« Reply #1523 on: December 07, 2007, 04:31:32 AM »
Nasser is a strong Mofo!! :o

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Re: Nasser at a bench press contest!
« Reply #1524 on: December 07, 2007, 04:55:10 AM »
It's a bench press that Nasser did.
It's not a bench press that other guys did.