315 LB BENCH.......................29 REPS

[troponin]

yeah keep rolling your eyes

steroids are for farm animals not for humans you fool

these guys are doing 2 times what a normal human can do. you think the heart can simply double its cardiac output?

The average cardiac output at rest is 5 liters per minute
The human heart is capable of hitting 40 liters per minute at peak. 

So, yes.....the heart can simply double its cardiac output (and triple, quadruple, etc., etc. ). 

[Marty Champions]

how is your hiv treatment coming along?

im treating you to common sense

people die of heart attacks becuase there body is holding too much cholesterol and a combination of being over weight

these guys that do steroids when they are pushing huge amounts of weight is equivalent to and obese guy trying to run up stairs. both will die of a heart attack soon

[Marty Champions]

The average cardiac output at rest is 5 liters per minute
The human heart is capable of hitting 40 liters per minute at peak. 

So, yes.....the heart can simply double its cardiac output (and triple, quadruple, etc., etc. ). 

lol you are are going to see how much cardiac output you have while on juice? the demand is much higher while you have all those steroids flowing through you. do you think you use less blood on steroids? no the demand is more! i see a stroke coming if you keep this up or heart attack. blow that heart up baby keep trying to push the limits hell next week try to improve  why dont you  get more weight or reps see what you can handle

[Triple-H_2005]

In the squat, you would have to consider femur length in relation to tibia length, also including food length, ankle size, thickness of the meniscus in the knee, hip size and shape, as well as the specific ratio of kyphosis or lordosis of each vertebrae in the spine (also taking into consideration the size of each vertebrae).  

I'm sure there's a justification in there, somewhere, for my tall ass not being able to squat with a shit!

[troponin]

lol you are are going to see how much cardiac output you have while on juice? the demand is much higher while you have all those steroids flowing through you. do you think you use less blood on steroids? no the demand is more! i see a stroke coming if you keep this up or heart attack. blow that heart up baby keep trying to push the limits hell next week try to improve  why dont you  get more weight or reps see what you can handle

Either way, you have to admit it was funny that you were so off on the cardiac output.

I'll accept your claim of a stroke or heart attack if you can give me a bit more specifics. 
Would you say I'm currently experiencing ischemia?  And, if that is the case, am I at risk for an occlusive vascular event? 
Or, by heart attack, are you claiming risk of cardiac arrest?  If that is the case, would it be from dilated cardiomyopathy?  If so, that would certainly change my risk for stroke.  At that point, I would say that any cerebral vascular events would be most likely from an embolic source secondary to the reduced ejection fraction from the cardiomyopathy, right? 
Unless of course, you're suggesting that I have a patent foramen ovale and the stroke you're predicting is actually more of a transient ischemic attack. 
Of course, the patent foramen ovale would have been present since my "in utero" days and would have no corresponding relevance to elevated androgen levels, right?

[JediKnight]

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=184176.0

[Marty Champions]

Either way, you have to admit it was funny that you were so off on the cardiac output.

I'll accept your claim of a stroke or heart attack if you can give me a bit more specifics. 
Would you say I'm currently experiencing ischemia?  And, if that is the case, am I at risk for an occlusive vascular event? 
Or, by heart attack, are you claiming risk of cardiac arrest?  If that is the case, would it be from dilated cardiomyopathy?  If so, that would certainly change my risk for stroke.  At that point, I would say that any cerebral vascular events would be most likely from an embolic source secondary to the reduced ejection fraction from the cardiomyopathy, right? 
Unless of course, you're suggesting that I have a patent foramen ovale and the stroke you're predicting is actually more of a transient ischemic attack. 
Of course, the patent foramen ovale would have been present since my "in utero" days and would have no corresponding relevance to elevated androgen levels, right?

dont even try to sound intelligent..

your addiction to getting bigger numbers in the gym and proving it to the world on teh juice are worse than me being a narcissist while dabbling in weed occasionally

you keep trying to expand your over inflated heart beyond normal cababilities and watch it explode.

im telling you this as a friend

why? because i personally knew of Johny Perry in NC and fucked his stripper girl friend and she basically gave me the  low down on how he died and had a massive explosion heart attack .

dont be stupid and think you can justify lifting nearly 2 times of you normally do if clean

[The Squadfather]

dont even try to sound intelligent..

your addiction to getting bigger numbers in the gym and proving it to the world on teh juice are worse than me being a narcissist while dabbling in weed occasionally

you keep trying to expand your over inflated heart beyond normal cababilities and watch it explode.

im telling you this as a friend

why? because i personally knew of Johny Perry in NC and fucked his stripper girl friend and she basically gave me the  low down on how he died and had a massive explosion heart attack .

dont be stupid and think you can justify lifting nearly 2 times of you normally do if clean

hahahahhaa, dude i know people who knew Johnny Perry personally and steroids were the least of what he "dabbled' in.

[troponin]

dont even try to sound intelligent..

your addiction to getting bigger numbers in the gym and proving it to the world on teh juice are worse than me being a narcissist while dabbling in weed occasionally

you keep trying to expand your over inflated heart beyond normal cababilities and watch it explode.

im telling you this as a friend

why? because i personally knew of Johny Perry in NC and fucked his stripper girl friend and she basically gave me the  low down on how he died and had a massive explosion heart attack .

dont be stupid and think you can justify lifting nearly 2 times of you normally do if clean

I'm improving myself every day.  
I learn a new word out of the dictionary..mendatious, perjorative, empathetical, commensurate.  


Which two city states fought in the punic war?  I think it was Detroit and Buffalo

[England_1]

Either way, you have to admit it was funny that you were so off on the cardiac output.

I'll accept your claim of a stroke or heart attack if you can give me a bit more specifics. 
Would you say I'm currently experiencing ischemia?  And, if that is the case, am I at risk for an occlusive vascular event? 
Or, by heart attack, are you claiming risk of cardiac arrest?  If that is the case, would it be from dilated cardiomyopathy?  If so, that would certainly change my risk for stroke.  At that point, I would say that any cerebral vascular events would be most likely from an embolic source secondary to the reduced ejection fraction from the cardiomyopathy, right? 
Unless of course, you're suggesting that I have a patent foramen ovale and the stroke you're predicting is actually more of a transient ischemic attack. 
Of course, the patent foramen ovale would have been present since my "in utero" days and would have no corresponding relevance to elevated androgen levels, right?

Roughly 20% of the population has a patent foramen ovale. It poses no health risks that we know of.

[England_1]

Hey Troponin,

which artery in the heart is known as the "widowmaker"?

[troponin]

Roughly 20% of the population has a patent foramen ovale. It poses no health risks that we know of.

Tell that to someone that just had a TIA and a positive bubble study!

Better yet, tell that to the doc that is telling her she needs a PFO closure!

Better yet, tell that to the PFO closure device manufacturer that is going to make a mint off that pointless sugery!

[Marty Champions]

hahahahhaa, dude i know people who knew Johnny Perry personally and steroids were the least of what he "dabbled' in.

yeah of course bro. im trying to make a point that i think even you would understand..

think when these guys tear a tricep or pec its simply a warning sign. because they can easily JUST as easily tear a heart


yet these guys are so stupid and think they are invincible. Even the dumbest ones who have torn most of there bodyparts from lifting too much, its kinda like 'gods' way of giving these fools a second chance by ripping there quad muscle from 600 pound squats instead of bursting there heart.

[troponin]

Hey Troponin,

which artery in the heart is known as the "widowmaker"?

The left anterior decending.  

It will show a corresponding hypokinesia, and potentially akinesia in the anterior myocardium.  
You can also often see some apical hyopkinesia/akinesia depending on the proximity of the occlusion.  


Be careful of 3 vessel disease in any myocardial perfusion imaging.....

[michael arvilla]

Justin............what is the circumference of the moon?

[troponin]

Justin............what is the circumference of the moon?

If the man on the moon is on teh juice, I would suspect the facial bloating would increase the circumfrence by approximately 10-15%.  Beyond that, I don't know

[England_1]

The left anterior decending. 

It will show a corresponding hypokinesia, and potentially akinesia in the anterior myocardium. 
You can also often see some apical hyopkinesia/akinesia depending on the proximity of the occlusion. 


Be careful of 3 vessel disease in any myocardial perfusion imaging.....

Sweet..just testing ya 

Where did you go to school? Grad student?

I really enjoyed anatomy.....OK, cleaning feces out of the rectum wasn't fun, but I learned a lot.

[Marty Champions]

yeah of course bro. im trying to make a point that i think even you would understand..

think when these guys tear a tricep or pec its simply a warning sign. because they can easily JUST as easily tear a heart


yet these guys are so stupid and think they are invincible. Even the dumbest ones who have torn most of there bodyparts from lifting too much, its kinda like 'gods' way of giving these fools a second chance by ripping there quad muscle from 600 pound squats instead of bursting there heart.

these fools will never get these golden points i make day in and day out

[cfox]

If the man on the moon is on teh juice, I would suspect the facial bloating would increase the circumfrence by approximately 10-15%.  Beyond that, I don't know

 

[troponin]

Sweet..just testing ya 

Where did you go to school? Grad student?

I really enjoyed anatomy.....OK, cleaning feces out of the rectum wasn't fun, but I learned a lot.

Did you have a human dissection class?  
By far the coolest thing I ever did in a college lab.  


I ran an experiment once on the effect of high dose ephedrine and caffeine on rating of percevied exertion and time to exhaustion utilizing the bruce protocol.

We had a soccer player do the Bruce to failure as a baseline, and then the next day he came back after 50mg of ephedrine and 400mg of caffeine.  
The results were pretty cool.  Of course his rate pressure product was a certifiable stroke risk, but he lasted longer on the protocol and rated his exertion considerably lower at each stage of the Bruce.  

I don't think that would fly as an experimental procedure today. lol

[England_1]

Did you have a human dissection class? 
By far the coolest thing I ever did in a college lab. 


I ran an experiment once on the effect of high dose ephedrine and caffeine on rating of percevied exertion and time to exhaustion utilizing the bruce protocol.

We had a soccer player do the Bruce to failure as a baseline, and then the next day he came back after 50mg of ephedrine and 400mg of caffeine. 
The results were pretty cool.  Of course his rate pressure product was a certifiable stroke risk, but he lasted longer on the protocol and rated his exertion considerably lower at each stage of the Bruce. 

I don't think that would fly as an experimental procedure today. lol

Yep. Dissection every day for 10 weeks.

And just so everyone knows, it's pronounced dis-section NOT di-section.

[Devon97]

I recently ground out a set of 7 with 185lbs on bench.  Each rep was locked out though.  
No video of course.

I spent four years studying anatomy and physiology.  
I've had human anatomy, physiology, exercise physiology, biomechanics I, biomechanics II, molecular aspects of muscle physiology, Human dissection, and practical labs for each of those classes.  

I once wrote an 11 page paper describing the biomechanics of a free-bar squat, including a special emphasis on how femur length in relation to tibia length can alter forces at the patella.  

I had to solve a formula for the change in pressure at each vertebrae as a given weight moved at set intervals away from a fulcrum point of the anterior aspect of the vertebral body.  

I had to explain how size and shape of the superior articulating facet and size and shape of the inferior articulating facet can create a predisposition to ruptured disks.  


There's very little about 'form' that I wasn't forced to learn.  You could write books about it (and people have), but in the end, there are too many processes and fulcrum points in the human body to create a generalized "good form" on an exercise.

In the squat, you would have to consider femur length in relation to tibia length, also including food length, ankle size, thickness of the meniscus in the knee, hip size and shape, as well as the specific ratio of kyphosis or lordosis of each vertebrae in the spine (also taking into consideration the size of each vertebrae).  


This was the longest, most pointless post ever written.  

Did you study abroad? The fact remains, however, that I have no interest in what is published in North America.

Allow me to share why:

With few exceptions in the areas of programming and organization, it's all been done before. The unfortunate fact for most westerners is that they are uninterested in developing their understanding to the point in which the translated literature (be it from Russian, Germany, Bulgaria, Poland, etc) no longer challenges them so greatly to make sense of it.

While the western masses were all jogging and practicing aerobics in the 80s- the former USSR and Eastern Bloc was pioneering sport science to a degree that has yet to even be approached here in the west.

As far as the vid, with full ROM I would expect you to hit b/t 18 and 21 reps.
It doesnt really matter though as you dont compete in PL meets.

[Marty Champions]

hey troponin if you ever tear a tricep just be glad you didnt explode youre heart. they are both muscles . so have at it , you are a waste of human life if you continue this

[The Squadfather]

hey troponin if you ever tear a tricep just be glad you didnt explode youre heart. they are both muscles . so have at it , you are a waste of human life if you continue this

[troponin]

Did you study abroad? The fact remains, however, that I have no interest in what is published in North America.

Allow me to share why:

With few exceptions in the areas of programming and organization, it's all been done before. The unfortunate fact for most westerners is that they are uninterested in developing their understanding to the point in which the translated literature (be it from Russian, Germany, Bulgaria, Poland, etc) no longer challenges them so greatly to make sense of it.

While the western masses were all jogging and practicing aerobics in the 80s- the former USSR and Eastern Bloc was pioneering sport science to a degree that has yet to even be approached here in the west.

As far as the vid, with full ROM I would expect you to hit b/t 18 and 21 reps.
It doesnt really matter though as you dont compete in PL meets.

full ROM is only qualitative anyway.   I could just widen my grip, pinch my shoulder blades and keep my elbows tucked to shorten my lockout by a few inches.  
That lift was just for fun.  

I spent a month in Poland studying the Holocaust.  
I visited Oswiecim (Auschwitz), Birkenau, and Monawitz.  
I helped clean up a Jewish Cemetary in the town of Wroclaw.  We had to "find" the graves, as it was so over-grown.  
Most of the area hadn't been cleaned or kept in any manner in 60 years.  
I spent a week in Berlin, seeing the Berlin wall, Checkpoint Charlie, the Brandenburg Gate, and other places.  
I spent a weekend in Prague during that trip too.


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