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Re: Father killed daughter for not wearing hijab, her friends say
« Reply #125 on: December 20, 2007, 04:14:09 AM »
The vegan pacifist speaketh teh truth!

Don't you have a Kaba to visit and worship at? ;)


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Re: Father killed daughter for not wearing hijab, her friends say
« Reply #126 on: December 20, 2007, 04:40:11 AM »
Don't you have a Kaba to visit and worship at? ;)

Direction: South-south east from where you live.

Truth hurts eh?

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Re: Father killed daughter for not wearing hijab, her friends say
« Reply #127 on: December 20, 2007, 07:49:43 AM »
Article: "What are some of the rights given to women in Islam" by Shabir Ally:

The Qur’an also speaks of similarity in terms of creation. God tells us that He created a single soul and from it its mate, then He made countless men and women from those two (see Qur’an 4:1). The Qur’an does not contain the belief that the man alone is created in the image of God.

Because of this fundamental similarity between men and women, the Qur’an declares that women have rights similar to the rights against them according to what is equitable (see Qur’an 2:228).

In a time when women were devalued and female infants were buried alive, the Qur’an raised the value of women and prohibited female infanticide. Due to the Qur’an, this practice was abolished, but in recent times advances in the science of genetic selection has encouraged some unbelievers to practice a modern form of female infanticide.

The Qur’an also abolished the practice whereby inheritance went to only the oldest male heir. Instead, a woman can inherit from her father, her husband, and her childless brother (see Qur’an 4:7, 32, 176).

In Islam when a woman gets married she does not surrender her maiden name, but maintains her distinct identity. Some Muslim women have adopted the surnames of their husbands, but this is due to cultural influence, not Islam.

In a Muslim marriage the groom gives a dowry to the bride, not to her father. This becomes her private property to keep or spend, and is not subject to the dictates of her male relatives. Any money she earns or receives is similarly her very own.

Under Islamic Law a woman cannot be married without her consent. She has final approval on a marriage partner and she can repudiate a marriage arranged without her consent. She also has the right to initiate a separation from marriage if her rights under marriage are not being granted.

Widows have the right to remarry, and they are in fact encouraged to do so.

The Qur’an places on men the responsibility of protecting and maintaining their female relatives. This relieves women of the need to earn their own living. It also means that a man must provide for his wife even if she has money of her own. She is not obligated to spend her money in the maintenance of her family. Incidentally, a woman is also not required to cook for her family, although she may do so out of love and compassion. The example of our noble prophet, on whom be peace, is that although he was such a great leader, he assisted in the housecleaning and mended his own clothes.

In return for the added responsibility, the Qur’an gives men the degree of leadership (see Qur’an 2:228; 4:34). This does not mean that men should dominate women, but rather that they should deal with them in kindness, mercy, and love (see Qur’an 4:19; 30:21).

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Re: Father killed daughter for not wearing hijab, her friends say
« Reply #128 on: December 20, 2007, 11:22:47 AM »
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Psuedo-Intellectual  ::)
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Re: Father killed daughter for not wearing hijab, her friends say
« Reply #129 on: December 20, 2007, 12:20:00 PM »
Psuedo-Intellectual  ::)

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Re: Father killed daughter for not wearing hijab, her friends say
« Reply #130 on: December 20, 2007, 01:43:53 PM »
Psuedo-muslim ::)
you = need to stop pretending like you know anything about islam. (friendly advice)

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Re: Father killed daughter for not wearing hijab, her friends say
« Reply #131 on: December 20, 2007, 01:51:39 PM »
you = need to stop pretending like you know anything about islam. (friendly advice)

This is an order from Debussey.

My knowledge of islam is the sum of your and bigbobs's knowledge.
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Re: Father killed daughter for not wearing hijab, her friends say
« Reply #132 on: December 20, 2007, 02:47:26 PM »
My knowledge of islam is the sum of your and bigbobs's knowledge.

Not from the way you were talking on the Questions & Suggestions Board.

Do you follow a religion?  Just wondering. 

You should check out Shabir Ally's websites, he's a Muslim scholar of the Bible, and frequently man-handles Christian scholars in interfaith dialogue/debates.  I think you could find a lot of answers to your questions there:

Shabir Ally:  http://www.shabirally.com/
Islamic Information Center:  http://www.islaminfo.com/new/
Let the Quran Speak:  http://quranspeaks.com/main/

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Re: Father killed daughter for not wearing hijab, her friends say
« Reply #133 on: December 20, 2007, 03:03:21 PM »
Not from the way you were talking on the Questions & Suggestions Board.

Do you follow a religion?  Just wondering. 

You should check out Shabir Ally's websites, he's a Muslim scholar of the Bible, and frequently man-handles Christian scholars in interfaith dialogue/debates.  I think you could find a lot of answers to your questions there:

Shabir Ally:  http://www.shabirally.com/
Islamic Information Center:  http://www.islaminfo.com/new/
Let the Quran Speak:  http://quranspeaks.com/main/

Atheism.

He'd get owned by Robert Spencer: http://jihadwatch.org/

Shabir Ally has been owned on occasion from a Kuwaiti Christian from "Answering Islam".
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Re: Father killed daughter for not wearing hijab, her friends say
« Reply #134 on: December 20, 2007, 03:07:27 PM »
Atheism.

He'd get owned by Robert Spencer: http://jihadwatch.org/

Shabir Ally has been owned on occasion from a Kuwaiti Christian from "Answering Islam".
Has Satan Robert Spencer ever debated with anyone, or is he always running a one man show  ???
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Re: Father killed daughter for not wearing hijab, her friends say
« Reply #135 on: December 20, 2007, 03:14:37 PM »

If you have to interpret the Koran, then the Koran is less than perfect, and the author of the Koran (God) isn't perfect.

Busted.

Assumptions = mother of all fuck ups. But now you're just making shit up.

You come up with your own criterion for what has divine origins? What makes you qualified to do so?

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Re: Father killed daughter for not wearing hijab, her friends say
« Reply #136 on: December 20, 2007, 03:15:29 PM »
Has Satan Robert Spencer ever debated with anyone, or is he always running a one man show  ???

Yes, he's slayed numerous muslims in debate.
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Re: Father killed daughter for not wearing hijab, her friends say
« Reply #137 on: December 20, 2007, 03:16:34 PM »
Yes, he's slayed numerous muslims in debate.
Who? i wanna see him debate someone with good credentials, like Reza Aslan, shabir ally, etc.
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Re: Father killed daughter for not wearing hijab, her friends say
« Reply #138 on: December 20, 2007, 03:26:48 PM »
Who? i wanna see him debate someone with good credentials, like Reza Aslan, shabir ally, etc.

Sam Harris layed the smackdown on Reza Aslan's ass.
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Re: Father killed daughter for not wearing hijab, her friends say
« Reply #139 on: December 20, 2007, 03:29:56 PM »
Sam Harris layed the smackdown on Reza Aslan's ass.
In your dreams, lol. I have rarely seen someone so visibly owned as Sam Harris on TV- you could especially notice in his voice  ;)
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Re: Father killed daughter for not wearing hijab, her friends say
« Reply #140 on: December 20, 2007, 03:32:36 PM »
Yes, he's slayed numerous muslims in debate.

It's slain, fucking slain!, not 'slayed'!
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Re: Father killed daughter for not wearing hijab, her friends say
« Reply #141 on: December 20, 2007, 03:33:32 PM »
It's slain, fucking slain!, not 'slayed'!
shut up, nordic is a REAL intellectual!  >:(
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Re: Father killed daughter for not wearing hijab, her friends say
« Reply #142 on: December 20, 2007, 03:42:12 PM »
shut up, nordic is a REAL intellectual!  >:(

No one regularises irregular verbs in my presence,  NO ONE!    >:(
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Re: Father killed daughter for not wearing hijab, her friends say
« Reply #143 on: December 20, 2007, 03:57:23 PM »
Funny how Nordic Beast is claiming all these SLAYINGS, without actually providing the video clip.  Shabir's debates are all openly available on his website, since he's the one who does the ownings.

I actually haven't heard of Reza Aslan.

The late Ahmed Deedat also did a lot of Christian-ownings.

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« Reply #144 on: December 20, 2007, 06:06:26 PM »
This thread is ridiculous. One only needs to read the Koran and one can see it was written by man just as one only needs to read the Bible to see it was written by man. There are scientific errors and historical errors in both. Islam is a plagiarism of Judaism, Persian mythology and host of other ancient beliefs.
Personally I think we should all just leave Muslims alone to their medievalism. Let a few decades pass; when the rest of the world progresses, scientifically, technologically and otherwise they will still be performing criminal amputations and whipping women who are raped; eventually they will fall so far behind that they will realise that their system doesn't work too well.
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Re: Father killed daughter for not wearing hijab, her friends say
« Reply #145 on: December 20, 2007, 11:27:00 PM »
One only needs to read the Koran and one can see it was written by man just as one only needs to read the Bible to see it was written by man.

Exactly right.

The claim by Muslims is that the Qu'ran is from Allah, reading it, you will obviously see it is not, it has factual flaws.

That should give the Muslims the courage to leave the BS behind and walk as free men and women.

Start treating women as equals, stop harassing homosexuals, stop the polygamy, et al.

Start living in the 21st century.
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Re: Father killed daughter for not wearing hijab, her friends say
« Reply #146 on: December 20, 2007, 11:56:10 PM »
Funny how Nordic Beast is claiming all these SLAYINGS, without actually providing the video clip.  Shabir's debates are all openly available on his website, since he's the one who does the ownings.

I actually haven't heard of Reza Aslan.

The late Ahmed Deedat also did a lot of Christian-ownings.

I'm not "Nordic Beast", that's another member.

Apologies for the bad English.

Muslims get owned on a daily basis, why do you think they're so bitter?

Personally I think we should all just leave Muslims alone to their medievalism. Let a few decades pass; when the rest of the world progresses, scientifically, technologically and otherwise they will still be performing criminal amputations and whipping women who are raped; eventually they will fall so far behind that they will realise that their system doesn't work too well.

Considering muslims like to take the lives of non-muslims, that is a terrible idea.
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Re: Father killed daughter for not wearing hijab, her friends say
« Reply #147 on: December 21, 2007, 12:07:28 AM »
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Re: Father killed daughter for not wearing hijab, her friends say
« Reply #148 on: December 21, 2007, 05:57:10 AM »
I'm not "Nordic Beast", that's another member.

Apologies for the bad English.

Muslims get owned on a daily basis, why do you think they're so bitter?

Considering muslims like to take the lives of non-muslims, that is a terrible idea.

My bad--the Nordic Beast mixup wasn't intentional.

Fact remains that I posted a link which contains videos of Shabir Ally owning many Christian scholars.  Your response is to simply say "Muslims get owned on a daily basis," without actually showing any videos of prominent Muslim speakers getting owned in inter-faith debates.  I'm assuming you're simply referring to the uneducated and emotional Muslims in third world countries when you say they are "bitter," but that hardly reflects anything to do with the religion itself as opposed to their upbringing and surroundings.

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Re: Father killed daughter for not wearing hijab, her friends say
« Reply #149 on: December 21, 2007, 06:01:29 AM »
My bad--the Nordic Beast mixup wasn't intentional.

Fact remains that I posted a link which contains videos of Shabir Ally owning many Christian scholars.  Your response is to simply say "Muslims get owned on a daily basis," without actually showing any videos of prominent Muslim speakers getting owned in inter-faith debates.  I'm assuming you're simply referring to the uneducated and emotional Muslims in third world countries when you say they are "bitter," but that hardly reflects anything to do with the religion itself as opposed to their upbringing and surroundings.


Sam Harris layed the smackdown on Reza Aslan search youtube for these names.
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