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Re: The Adonis Principle is full of shit
« Reply #75 on: December 15, 2007, 12:09:47 PM »

No matter how good your training is, if you dont feed the body right , its useless.

Are you a retard or something?

Feeding the body "right" starts with the amount of calories you eat, not with the grams of protein. That = the main issue here. You can not burn fat effectively without calorie control, and you can not gain muscle effectively without calorie control, and you can not burn fat and gain muscle at the same time for an extended amount of time anyway.

Neither fat burning nor muscle building = possible without a deficit or surplus of calories, regardless of your protein intake.

Eating lots of protein on a calorie deficit won't enable you to gain muscle, eating lots of protein on a calorie surplus won't allow you to drop down in BF over time.

In other words, calorie control is the key that allows for training progress, wheter it is done deliberately (the smart way), or by ones normal non conscious behavioural patterns (big eaters tends to get big, because they eat many calories).

Protein counting = basically worthless without calorie control.

"Good eating" in the BB land = therefore dependant on the daily energy intake, with protein being a minor factor. Counting protein without calories = therefore a big mistake.

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Re: The Adonis Principle is full of shit
« Reply #76 on: December 15, 2007, 12:12:30 PM »
mariachi...

waht do you look like again?  if I recall you're neither big nor are you cut yet you run your mouth like you're charles glass meets chris aceto....

either your a gimmick trying to stir up trouble or your an idiot...well, you could be both.

fighting with people doesn't make you right....


Im just expressing my thoughts, dont sweat it

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Re: The Adonis Principle is full of shit
« Reply #77 on: December 15, 2007, 12:13:14 PM »
DF, I haven't had a protein shake in about 8 months, I quit all supplements 2 months ago

I haven't noticed the difference..there are truth in your words

Here comes the money shot

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Re: The Adonis Principle is full of shit
« Reply #78 on: December 15, 2007, 12:17:24 PM »
Protein is a must. It has a huge role in loosing fat and building muscle. ( and im not talkin about that at the same time debussey)

Like i said calories dont build muscle , protein does. But ofcourse you will need to eat more calories then you use, im not arguing that at all.

If calories build muscle, we could just eat popcorn and drink beer or things like that, and build muscle tissue. Saddly it doesnt work like that.

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Re: The Adonis Principle is full of shit
« Reply #79 on: December 15, 2007, 12:19:29 PM »
Protein is a must. It has a huge role in loosing fat and building muscle. ( and im not talkin about that at the same time debussey)

Like i said calories dont build muscle , protein does. But ofcourse you will need to eat more calories then you use, im not arguing that at all.

If calories build muscle, we could just eat popcorn or things like that, and build muscle tissue. Saddly it doesnt work like that.

Arguing with your limited ability to understand = worthless.

Debussey will chop your head clean off.

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Re: The Adonis Principle is full of shit
« Reply #80 on: December 15, 2007, 12:20:50 PM »
Arguing with your limited ability to understand = worthless.

Debussey will chop your head clean off.


I guess you and natural al are huge, care to post pics? or are you ashamed of your looks?

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Re: The Adonis Principle is full of shit
« Reply #81 on: December 15, 2007, 12:22:01 PM »

I guess you and natural al are huge, care to post pics? or are you ashamed of your looks?




It has been a long time since Debussey has seen a person as dumb as you. You seem to be unable to graps the relationships between very simple concepts. Scary.

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Re: The Adonis Principle is full of shit
« Reply #82 on: December 15, 2007, 12:22:10 PM »
DF, I haven't had a protein shake in about 8 months, I quit all supplements 2 months ago

I haven't noticed the difference..there are truth in your words


suppliments and 'protein shakes' are worthless snake oil, its all a scam. that money is better spent on steak, salmon and potatos.

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Re: The Adonis Principle is full of shit
« Reply #83 on: December 15, 2007, 12:25:41 PM »
Have fun eating 1.5 Hostess cupcakes and 6 oz of milk for meal number 3 and 3/4 can of Chef Boyardi spaghetti with meatballs with 3 oz grape Kool-Aid for meal 4.   ::)
that sounds awesome. :D

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Re: The Adonis Principle is full of shit
« Reply #84 on: December 15, 2007, 12:32:05 PM »



It has been a long time since Debussey has seen a person as dumb as you. You seem to be unable to graps the relationships between very simple concepts. Scary.


I woke up when will debussey? :D


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Re: The Adonis Principle is full of shit
« Reply #85 on: December 15, 2007, 12:34:13 PM »

I woke up when will debussey? :D



What did you wake up from? Embracing reality? :D

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Re: The Adonis Principle is full of shit
« Reply #86 on: December 16, 2007, 09:14:52 PM »
this was taken last year I was probably eating 1800 cals per day.  I don't think I lost any muscle



Exactly....you can only THINK.  Epic sucking your stomach in.

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Re: The Adonis Principle is full of shit
« Reply #87 on: December 16, 2007, 09:39:25 PM »
Please get TA to stop being mean to me.  :(
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Re: The Adonis Principle is full of shit
« Reply #88 on: December 17, 2007, 12:23:13 AM »

I don't think I lost any muscle



thank god cause from the looks of it you dont have much to lose.
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Re: The Adonis Principle is full of shit
« Reply #89 on: December 17, 2007, 07:43:21 AM »
What happens on the adonis diet:

- you slow down you  metabolism
- you lose muscle tissue
- you gain more fat longterm
- you look like shit on  this diet
- you lack the most important and only'' building block'' protein
- not healthy


It could work for some genetically blessed folks, but for 90 % people i wouldnt advise it.

The adonis PRinciple also says'' if you lift, you cant lose muscle, no matter what and how much you eat'' hahahah how the hell did i believe this crap.

Adonis is also chemically enchanced. So a lot of catabolism can be prevented with small a.s. dosages.

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Re: The Adonis Principle is full of shit
« Reply #90 on: December 17, 2007, 07:47:11 AM »
thank god cause from the looks of it you dont have much to lose.

post a comparison pic and show us how a huge "natural" BBer looks.

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Re: The Adonis Principle is full of shit
« Reply #91 on: December 17, 2007, 07:52:37 AM »
It always seems that guy are more willing to cheat and lie to prove their methods work, than to actall yfigure out what works. (Mentzer etc)