Leanest off-season yet...

[Colossus_1986]

i used to have a cheat-meal once a week, and usually it was a colossal pig-out.
and it never used to throw me off...(weight wise)
but lately i've been eating clean... and maybe having a few pieces of garlic bread, or small handfull of fries at a restaurant on saturday night is as far as i go. eat as clean as i can, which usually drives me insane cause i crave the cheat food after...

been very conscious about my diet for the last 5 weeks and it's paying off like hell, and i'm happy, and not craving the cheat food since i see it paying off.
even though i flushed a bit of weight, (down to 215 from 219-220) within 5 weeks...
and strength is still great, and the same.

does anyone else have to do this in order to see better quality every week?
or does 1-cheat meal not affect you and you are able to keep the same "look"

my cheats used to make me nice and full the next day, but then i smoothed out the next 2-3 days and held water, lost sight of veins etc...sucked!

speak on this

[240 is Back]

I have two cheat meals a day.  And while doing this, I've lost 30 pounds and finally have some abs peeking thru and visible veins.  I was 200+ and disgusting when I was cooking pasta and broiling chicken all day, and 175 today after eating a jimmy dean biscuit and 2 scoops of whey.

For me, it was just all about activity.  I used to sit in that recliner 24/7 and build websites and post on getbig.  I ate better, but I was fat.  I have a rugrat now, and I go to the park, the museum, the zoo, a few times a week, and I look and feel way better.

Bottom line is that 1) I dont really know what I"m talking about 2) Adonis' principles of "a calorie is a calorie" works as long as you fulfill minimal macro (protein) requirements and 3) staying active is most important thing.

[KillerMonk]

i used to have a cheat-meal once a week, and usually it was a colossal pig-out.
and it never used to throw me off...(weight wise)
but lately i've been eating clean... and maybe having a few pieces of garlic bread, or small handfull of fries at a restaurant on saturday night is as far as i go. eat as clean as i can, which usually drives me insane cause i crave the cheat food after...

been very conscious about my diet for the last 5 weeks and it's paying off like hell, and i'm happy, and not craving the cheat food since i see it paying off.
even though i flushed a bit of weight, (down to 215 from 219-220) within 5 weeks...
and strength is still great, and the same.

does anyone else have to do this in order to see better quality every week?
or does 1-cheat meal not affect you and you are able to keep the same "look"

my cheats used to make me nice and full the next day, but then i smoothed out the next 2-3 days and held water, lost sight of veins etc...sucked!

speak on this

Are you natural

[michael arvilla]

As i sit here and choke down my dry rice and chiken i have to ask................don't you ever just want to say fuck it
and eat what everyone else eats??!?!??!?

french fries,doughnuts!,PIZZA!!!.......ETC ETC.............i mean your never going to be a pro
sooo what's the point?!?!?!

[Lamplighterx]

i used to do a cheat day on sun but it didnt work for me i would feel gross all day and look like crap the next day
last night for a cheat i just had 3 pizza slices and that was good enough for me had it in the early afternoon
i also found going about 2 weeks without a cheat meal burned me out

[240 is Back]

As i sit here and choke down my dry rice and chiken i have to ask................don't you ever just want to say fuck it
and eat what everyone else eats??!?!??!?

french fries,doughnuts!,PIZZA!!!.......ETC ETC.............i mean your never going to be a pro
sooo what's the point?!?!?!

how many cheat meals a week do you do?

whats your daily calorie/protein intake, mike?

[nukkaready]

As i sit here and choke down my dry rice and chiken i have to ask................don't you ever just want to say fuck it
and eat what everyone else eats??!?!??!?

french fries,doughnuts!,PIZZA!!!.......ETC ETC.............i mean your never going to be a pro
sooo what's the point?!?!?!

i eat pizza, fries and burgers. it stacks well with trenbolone, gh and test and brings out veins in my abdominals. why anyone would resort to rice and chicken all day is beyond me.

[KillerMonk]

i eat pizza, fries and burgers. it stacks well with trenbolone, gh and test and brings out veins in my abdominals. why anyone would resort to rice and chicken all day is beyond me.

Calories are just that calories

[Colossus_1986]

i eat pizza, fries and burgers. it stacks well with trenbolone, gh and test and brings out veins in my abdominals. why anyone would resort to rice and chicken all day is beyond me.

sweet!

[michael arvilla]

how many cheat meals a week do you do?

whats your daily calorie/protein intake, mike?

It was 2 (now it's down to one)

protien= 400 plus grams
carbs low = 50 -75
high = 125 -150
cals =  lol don't count em
mood = bitchy!

[michael arvilla]

Im spending all this money (like $30..00 a day just on meats)
eating every 2 hours..............cardi o twice a day
cranky like a bitch (keep getting sick cause my immune system is shot)

and for what?!?!?..............a plastic trophy/pat on the back
im never going to be a pro...............why not just eat "regular"

what is wrong with me that i do this?!?!?!?!?!?

[XFACTOR]

i eat pizza, fries and burgers. it stacks well with trenbolone, gh and test and brings out veins in my abdominals. why anyone would resort to rice and chicken all day is beyond me.

How do you take tren? Daily, every other day?  Is it really that effective?

[Colossus_1986]

Im spending all this money (like $30..00 a day just on meats)
eating every 2 hours..............cardi o twice a day
cranky like a bitch (keep getting sick cause my immune system is shot)

and for what?!?!?..............a plastic trophy/pat on the back
im never going to be a pro...............why not just eat "regular"

what is wrong with me that i do this?!?!?!?!?!?

cause you love it.

it's not always about being the best in the world, but being the best YOU can be.
you quit...you' never know.

[tom joad]

im never going to be a pro...............why not just eat "regular"

what is wrong with me that i do this?!?!?!?!?!?

Bodybuilding & dieting is 99% mental.  You have a defeatist attitude.  Never say never.  All ya gotta do is bring up your legs 5% and you're there bro.

[BEAST 8692]

Im spending all this money (like $30..00 a day just on meats)
eating every 2 hours..............cardi o twice a day
cranky like a bitch (keep getting sick cause my immune system is shot)

and for what?!?!?..............a plastic trophy/pat on the back
im never going to be a pro...............why not just eat "regular"

what is wrong with me that i do this?!?!?!?!?!?

are you getting ready for a show Mike?

[incognegro]

I find that I save more money on eating clean I buy everything in bulk protein bars,whey shakes etc. During the week it is not that hard for me to eat clean, but on the weekend If I go to the clubs or go out to dinner with some chick I blow my diet.My guilty pleasure is jack in the box chicken strips at like 2 in the morning after a night at the clubs, and sunday of course I am more lax on my eating

[KillerMonk]

Im spending all this money (like $30..00 a day just on meats)
eating every 2 hours..............cardi o twice a day
cranky like a bitch (keep getting sick cause my immune system is shot)

and for what?!?!?..............a plastic trophy/pat on the back
im never going to be a pro...............why not just eat "regular"

what is wrong with me that i do this?!?!?!?!?!?

Youve got the fever to better yourself, i need to borrow some off you

[michael arvilla]

are you getting ready for a show Mike?

i am actually .................(in march)
Laura as well (transitioning into female bodybuilding)

[michael arvilla]

Bodybuilding & dieting is 99% mental.  You have a defeatist attitude.  Never say never.  All ya gotta do is bring up your legs 5% and you're there bro.

doing legs in about an hour.................... .(getting myself "mentally ready")

[michael arvilla]

cause you love it.

it's not always about being the best in the world, but being the best YOU can be.
you quit...you' never know.

i must cause it's putting me in the poor house lol!


if i think about it.....................i can't rationalize it

[BEAST 8692]

i must cause it's putting me in the poor house lol!


if i think about it.....................i can't rationalize it

bullshit man

you look better than most males over 70.

[Samourai Pizzacat]

being consistent with your diet and avoiding cheat days will get your body better attuned to the diet. regular pig-outs will increase the cravings instead of lessen them. Better to hav a small but more consistent cheat than a once a week binge.

[michael arvilla]

bullshit man

you look better than most males over 70.

wow.............that cheered me up!!!

thanks.................. ....

[BEAST 8692]

wow.............that cheered me up!!!

thanks.................. ....

lol

i'm takin the piss Mike.

you look awesome for 40+ and you know it.

hell, think of the alternative

facing challenges in the gym is great stuff but i must admit, it can't be much fun on 50g of carb , but then that's what stimulants were invented for.

[michael arvilla]

lol

i'm takin the piss Mike.

you look awesome for 40+ and you know it.

hell, think of the alternative

facing challenges in the gym is great stuff but i must admit, it can't be much fun on 50g of carb , but then that's what stimulants were invented for.

yea your right thanks! (im glad i got that 8-ball left over from the weekend!)