what would make you do more pushups, a cup of coffee or protien

[BEAST 8692]

LOL!

Ronnie Coleman could post here, eat nothing but candy corn and beer, train hard, and he would destroy most on getbig.  He has great genetics, as do you.

I'm not crapping on your caffeine and sugar - they are both very useful.  I'm just defending protein.  I thought you were much bigger in earlier pics.  Yes, you're more ripped now, but you do look to be down in bodyweight.

seriously Rob, i know guys who have never lifted a weight in their lives, get about 50-80 grams of protein per day (most of that from beer) and look in better shape than you.

i can't believe that you actually think all that protein is going into your muscles. how much atual muscle have you built in the last 10 years? or have you actually lost muscle i'd say you're not getting a very good return for your money but you won't believe me. you'll still delude yourself into believing you need that much protein and possibly more for 'even better results' .

175lbs skinny fat at well over 6ft. is a disgrace for an experienced bber such as yourself. of course you will blame it on lack of genetics/drugs but the reality is that you are a slave to the mantra of supplement companies that want you to accept this explanation for your lack of progress so you will seek out new and more expensive 'protein powders' to get closer to the 'genetic elite'.

[warchild]

Goddamn DW, congrats on being the biggest retard on Getbig......herbal stimulants such as caffeine have a diurectic effect you jackoff. Please, stop posting and kill yourself now

[mitchyboy]

No kidding, ever notice how dehydrated you are after to much coffe. What an idiot asshat

[240 is Back]

seriously Rob, i know guys who have never lifted a weight in their lives, get about 50-80 grams of protein per day (most of that from beer) and look in better shape than you.

i can't believe that you actually think all that protein is going into your muscles. how much atual muscle have you built in the last 10 years? or have you actually lost muscle i'd say you're not getting a very good return for your money but you won't believe me. you'll still delude yourself into believing you need that much protein and possibly more for 'even better results' .

175lbs skinny fat at well over 6ft. is a disgrace for an experienced bber such as yourself. of course you will blame it on lack of genetics/drugs but the reality is that you are a slave to the mantra of supplement companies that want you to accept this explanation for your lack of progress so you will seek out new and more expensive 'protein powders' to get closer to the 'genetic elite'.

I'm 5'10.
I was 125 pounds at age 25.  Just so you know the genetic starting point that I had.
I am now 175 pounds at age 31, at the same bodyfat %.
And I have the pics to prove it.



If you've gained 50 pounds in 6 years while maintaining the same bodyfat, and have pics to prove it, all the power to you.  Show us the photographs.  Otherwise, quit flaming.

Yes, I got fat to do it, and yes, I dont claim to know a ton about nutrition.  But if you're taking the position that 60 grams of protein per day is enoug for daddy waddy to gain muscle at 230 pounds and 6 foot 6, well, you're wrong.  

[240 is Back]

seriously Rob, i know guys who have never lifted a weight in their lives, get about 50-80 grams of protein per day (most of that from beer) and look in better shape than you.

I know middle schoolers who can dunk a basketball the first time they step on a court, and I know 30 year old guys who have played ball for 20 years who will never dunk.  We all have different starting lines.

seriously Rob, i know guys who have never lifted a weight in their lives, get about 50-80 grams of protein per day (most of that from beer) and look in better shape than you.

What is the protein content of beer?

How many beers would one have to drink to get 50 grams of protein?

Ummm..... 

[BEAST 8692]

I know middle schoolers who can dunk a basketball the first time they step on a court, and I know 30 year old guys who have played ball for 20 years who will never dunk.  We all have different starting lines.



What is the protein content of beer?

How many beers would one have to drink to get 50 grams of protein?

Ummm..... 

lol...2 meltdown posts.

seriously, don't mean to flame. i guess i'm just pretty blunt. you kind of missed my sarcasm with the beer coment though.

i want to see more pics that show you were the same bodyfat at 125 as you are at 175. frankly, i don't believe you and some glossy pic of your skinny fat mid-section doesn't prove a thing.

i probably will post some pics when i can be bothered to get my girlfriend to take some, why not? but i don't see how my body means anything. i'll tell you right now though (and you can use this later as evidence of a self owning if i am bsing) i look a ton more muscular and in better condition than you though and i'm not even a bber. i just use weight training as part of my strength program. besides, you will just say that i am genetically gifted or taking drugs, as is the standard answer for people's failings.

thing is, i couldn't give a flying fuck how much protein i eat day to day. sometimes i only eat once or twice. maybe if i was cycling steroids, gh or insulin i migh assimilate all that food but i'm not so deluded as to think that, even at around 240lbs i will assimilate 300+grams of protein. the truth is that i probably average about 130 grams of protein, so how the hell could i possibly have any muscle???

[Andre Nickatina]

lol...2 meltdown posts.

seriously, don't mean to flame. i guess i'm just pretty blunt. you kind of missed my sarcasm with the beer coment though.

i want to see more pics that show you were the same bodyfat at 125 as you are at 175. frankly, i don't believe you and some glossy pic of your skinny fat mid-section doesn't prove a thing.

i probably will post some pics when i can be bothered to get my girlfriend to take some, why not? but i don't see how my body means anything. i'll tell you right now though (and you can use this later as evidence of a self owning if i am bsing) i look a ton more muscular and in better condition than you though and i'm not even a bber. i just use weight training as part of my strength program. besides, you will just say that i am genetically gifted or taking drugs, as is the standard answer for people's failings.

thing is, i couldn't give a flying fuck how much protein i eat day to day. sometimes i only eat once or twice. maybe if i was cycling steroids, gh or insulin i migh assimilate all that food but i'm not so deluded as to think that, even at around 240lbs i will assimilate 300+grams of protein. the truth is that i probably average about 130 grams of protein, so how the hell could i possibly have any muscle???

240 is in great shape, bitch.

[BEAST 8692]

240 is in great shape, bitch.

appreciate your great insight and reasoning and now you can proceed to your usual pre-breakfast routine of copulating with your hand while perusing pics of rob's skinny fat midsection.

thankyou and god bless, andrea.

[240 is Back]

i was 25 years old and bone rack skinny.  So I builked up and put on almost 100 pounds in 4 years.  I was fat.  gross fat.  But then I lost it, going from around 211 to 175 in probably 15 months.  

Our starting lines are going to be different.  There are high school kids who look better than I ever will.  You probably started with a better frame and muscle bellies than I will ever get to.  That's okay, that's just genetics.

The RDA of protein for a 174 lb. adult male is about 63 Grams.

So at the VERY LEAST, DW, at 230 pounds, cannot skate on 50 grams per day.

[BEAST 8692]

i was 25 years old and bone rack skinny.  So I builked up and put on almost 100 pounds in 4 years.  I was fat.  gross fat.  But then I lost it, going from around 211 to 175 in probably 15 months.  

Our starting lines are going to be different.  There are high school kids who look better than I ever will.  You probably started with a better frame and muscle bellies than I will ever get to.  That's okay, that's just genetics.

The RDA of protein for a 174 lb. adult male is about 63 Grams.

So at the VERY LEAST, DW, at 230 pounds, cannot skate on 50 grams per day.

what i want to know is how much of that 50lbs is actually pure muscle tissue?

let me just remind you Rob, that you're the one making the bold statements here, not me, so i just want to see some evidence for all that '300+grams of protein' and 'i've gained 50lbs of muscle in the same condition' shit. you're advising people obviously better built than you that they must eat more protein.

i'm not doubting your success or your satisfaction re your gains. what i am doubting is how much your diet and, specifically, all that protein, had to do with it. it's a little too convenient to dismiss anyone that defies your logic/theories as simply genetically blessed.

[The Showstoppa]

i was 25 years old and bone rack skinny.  So I builked up and put on almost 100 pounds in 4 years.  I was fat.  gross fat.  But then I lost it, going from around 211 to 175 in probably 15 months.  

Our starting lines are going to be different.  There are high school kids who look better than I ever will.  You probably started with a better frame and muscle bellies than I will ever get to.  That's okay, that's just genetics.

The RDA of protein for a 174 lb. adult male is about 63 Grams.

So at the VERY LEAST, DW, at 230 pounds, cannot skate on 50 grams per day.

Maybe DW doesn't like protein shakes because he prefers straight from the tap?

[240 is Back]

what i want to know is how much of that 50lbs is actually pure muscle tissue?

I dunno.  I don't think my bones have grown much from age 25 to 31.  I am sure some of that 50 was fat.  And some was muscle.

you're advising people obviously better built than you that they must eat more protein.

Did you know that Chad Nicholls, who trains Ronnie and Melvin and others, is not better built than them?  yes, and he still has the nerve to tell them how to eat.

Did you know that many of the trainers and nutritionists in the world aren't world class bodybuilders, but they still know something?

That being said, it's the blind leading the blind here.  When DW announces that 50 grams of protein are enough for a 230 pounds man to gain muscle, he's putting things out there that'll cause others to waste time or risk health and well-being.   Aside from ANY athlete stuff - the US RDA for protein for a 174 lb male is more than that.  He's 50 pounds of muscle heavier.  You will find no credible scientific research anywhere that says a 230 pound bodybuilder needs only 50 grams or less of protein a day.

[warchild]

Maybe DW doesn't like protein shakes because he prefers straight from the tap?

Excellent point   

[Marty Champions]

175lbs skinny fat at well over 6ft. is a disgrace for an experienced bber such as yourself. of course you will blame it on lack of genetics/drugs but the reality is that you are a slave to the mantra of supplement companies that want you to accept this explanation for your lack of progress so you will seek out new and more expensive 'protein powders' to get closer to the 'genetic elite'.

ahahah they always blame there "poor genetics" hahah

of course they have poor genetics look at these fools still doing the same protien diet THAT DOES NOT WORK hahahahahhaahAHHAHAHAAHA HAHAHAHA

[Marty Champions]

JEALOUSY

[Marty Champions]

you simply CANNOT workout HARD ENOUGH if your eating all that fuckin protien it provides next to no energy

now caffiene and sugar being stimulats will provide the energy to do the high volume workout


I DARE YOU

to try 30-40 sets on an all protien diet

its quite easy on a coffee, sugar diet

so losers still doing the high protien , i can garantee your workouts are simply pussyfied and weak and you are dragging because your insulin levels are too low, thats why you look like shit not your physical genetics holding you back, but your MENTAL genetics  resisting CHANGE in diet is whats holding you back

why are you so dear to your fvckin protien anyways, you look like shit why not eat something that tastes GOOD and look a little bit better than SHlT

[Go 4 It]

Protein isn't supposed to give you energy......carbs are, thats why carbs = fuel for the body.

[Marty Champions]

Protein isn't supposed to give you energy......carbs are, thats why carbs = fuel for the body.

yep this is why i have monumental workouts, and these guys bitch and cry and make excuses. They think that since im a reptilian i have better genetics, when infact we are all one and we all derive powers from dna, they are simply gullible/ dellusional to protien propaganda

of course we need protien but when you look "skinny fat" it should ring a bell that one needs to change there diet

[Go 4 It]

Rock on Waddy! Hey by the way, I met your Idol Patrick Swayze at a nightclub in Chicago on thursday night, dude still looks good, and he's lean again!

[240 is Back]

protein is for recovery and growth in the 23 hours after you train.

carbs and caffeine are super for the hour that you train.  No one is disputing that caffeine is very effective for improving workout quality.

To discount protein as a valuable recovery and growth tool is silly.  No one said you should chug 60 grams of protein then try to lift, that would make you sick.  They're both valuable tools.

[Marty Champions]

Rock on Waddy! Hey by the way, I met your Idol Patrick Swayze at a nightclub in Chicago on thursday night, dude still looks good, and he's lean again!

hell yeah epic lean face on that old manwhore

i beleive this pic is from 2 years ago of me on a legendary low protien diet

i will destroy this very soon

[Marty Champions]

protein is for recovery and growth in the 23 hours after you train.

carbs and caffeine are super for the hour that you train.  No one is disputing that caffeine is very effective for improving workout quality.

To discount protein as a valuable recovery and growth tool is silly.  No one said you should chug 60 grams of protein then try to lift, that would make you sick.  They're both valuable tools.

ALL THAT protien FVCKS up your digestion system flow,

When you workout your body wants to absorb and digest FREE FLOWING energy like carbs...

now if you had protien even a few hours before you train it FVCKS it up and slows down digestion . you want a clear stomach of high octane feul. protien is good only before bed

[240 is Back]

ALL THAT protien FVCKS up your digestion system flow,

When you workout your body wants to absorb and digest FREE FLOWING energy like carbs...

now if you had protien even a few hours before you train it FVCKS it up and slows down digestion . you want a clear stomach of high octane feul. protien is good only before bed

Okay.

A 230 pound bodybuilder needs _______ grams of protein per day?

[Marty Champions]

Okay.

A 230 pound bodybuilder needs _______ grams of protein per day?

50-70 and if you are a f@g and insist take 100 but it wont do you any good

[240 is Back]

50-70

Your belief goes against what the vast majority of nutritionists, scientists, sports medicine, etc believe.

Why should we believe you, and not the vast scientific base of knowledge that PhDs have spent their life researching?

(remember, we're not talking the protein-pushing supp industry - we're talking nutritionists who have no dog in this fight, nothing to gain from whey sales!)