Here is a sneak preview of some of the questions and answers in the new Nasser interview that will be out on Monday....
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Q: Hi Nasser. You mentioned in our last interview that it is often hard to make friendships at the pro bodybuilding level. Could you please elaborate on this statement? By your estimation what kind of social dynamic exists within professional bodybuilding?
I have had several friendships at the professional bodybuilding level. Let me tell you all about one of the first of these friendships that started good but did not end up as good. I have to admit that I recently laughed at first about what Milos Sarcev said about me on the Getbig.com message boards. He is just a person you cannot take seriously because of his current life status and all the situations I have witnessed him in. I am not necessarily giving a response to his quacking like a duck most recently on the Getbig board, but I do see what I am about to tell you as more of an analysis, a description and specification of Milos's aka "DCM,s" (Delusional Clown Milos's) personality.
I have known Milos since approximately the year 1985. We used to compete back then in the so-called "Former Yugoslavia" which is a country that does not exist anymore. It split into several smaller states. Anyways, the first time I met him, he approached me after the prejudging of a bodybuilding show there and asked me (without even introducing himself to me at all):"I have heard that you live in Germany, so are you taking "plenastril (Which was at that time the German version of Anadrol 50)?" I felt kind of uncomfortable starting a conversation beginning with a drug question. And even before I could say something, he said:" You need not respond because I know you do."
I had a bad impression of him from the start. Another guy there who was also a competitor told me "Milos always likes to talk about drugs." And that "he was known for that in his village."
I think that I came in third in the heavyweight division in this national show. DCM was in the light heavyweight class, but I do not recall where he placed. I know only that he did not win. I continued competing in Germany where I was born but could not compete in the Nationals there because I was not a German citizen, despite the fact that I was born there (there is a different law compared to the US). I frequently returned back to "Yugoslavia" for competition reasons and to visit relatives on my mother's side. Finally in 1988 and 1989 I won the Yugoslav Championships. A year later (in 1990) I gained my IFBB pro card and did my pro debut in Helsinki, Finland where I competed with guys like Ron Love, who I beat there in my very first pro show. Also competing there with me was Gary Strydom, Nimrod King, Danny Padilla, Samir Bannout and Vince Comerford. I came in 8th place at my pro debut.
Milos somehow had "transferred" during this time frame from Yugoslavia to the US where he started to live without valid papers, just on a visitor's visa. He basically left socialistic Yugoslavia where people had two hours of electricity per day, milk powder instead of real milk and days where cars with regular licence plate numbers could drive on the street and the next day cars with irregular numbers were allowed to use these same streets. Meat was very rare to obtain and if it could be bought the price was horrendous. There was a complete breakdown of the economic situation there for almost a decade before finally, in 1990, on top of this dark situation, a civil war broke out. The human disaster was complete. A couple of hundred thousand people got killed because of their ethnicity, even by their own former neighbors.
As I said, meanwhile Milos had managed to escape from there with a half full suitcase, as I recall him telling me, and had arrived in the US. He sneaked into the California territory. He needed to eat like everyone else. And he needed to find a job. And he needed to stay here because he did not want to go back because he also wanted to pursue his bodybuilding dream. After collecting food from here and there, going from staying one night here and the other there, he finally started working without a trainers licence as a personal trainer. Then he became very practical and talked a female gym member here in San Diego, California, into marrying him.
This really happened - by the way. I actually met the brother of the girl who had originally married Milos. The guy was a pilot who was off duty and was sitting, by accident, next to me. He started talking about bodybuilding, elaborating about big guys with big arms, about his former brother-in-law with the name Milos. I was almost falling asleep but suddenly I was awake. This guy confirmed the whole story to me but he gave the impression that he was still angry that his sister was so dumb that Milos tricked her into marrying him. Because of this Milos got his papers to stay in the US!
Then Milos continued working out and became a member of a relatively unknown bodybuilding federation. Then he somehow won the World Title of this (to me) almost bogus sounding federation - and Wayne DeMilia the former IFBB head judge and the former chairman of the IFBB pro division then handed him an IFBB pro card.
I can say only say that "Milos is washed with all kinds of water". This is a German expression and means that he is capable of everything and anything, legal and illegal. His whole history is a proof of that. One guy named Jim Rosenthal, a former writer for Flex magazine, called him "the mind". But Rosenthal got fired by Weider for sexual harassment because he used to just show up at Figure/Fitness girls houses, invited himself in and promised them a contract from Weider if they would "do this and that" for him. But that is a separate issue.
And guys, a lot of people, including myself do call Milos not Milos but DCM. Milos's "degrees" are also of an obscure nature. At the time when Milos was studying in Former Yugoslavia you could go to University without having finished High School. Every street worker, construction guy and any plumber could go and study. The system was a socialistic system and because of that the government allowed everyone to obtain any kind of degree without any pre-qualification!
I myself began entering pro shows since 1990. In the Chicago pro show, in 1992 I did not make the top 15 - actually not even the top 20 - and I did not look good. I was big but had the cuts of a baby. After failing to place in the top 15 at the NOC, shortly before that I decided to go "off season" and continued looking this way when I entered the Chicago show. Milos competed there as well but was actually very much talking down to me and he had to flex his quads back stage between the rounds constantly in front of me to show me how good his legs looked. But he did not want to flex his hams or his non-existent calves. This is a reflection as well of Milos's personality. As long as he feels or thinks he is above you he acts arrogant, degrading and even insulting. He continued telling people that I was just a big fat guy with zero future - and he is/was calling me a friend?
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