just as in corporations and in govt, we'll never know who's in bed with who. When you run a company, then leave and start another company, there will always be some ties, good or bad. Chalk it up to what it is. THe Supplemental Industrial Complex. Millions of dollars worth of powders sold yearly to unsuspected masses. Bodybuilders, promoters, GNC clerks, magazine subscribers, etc etc. All pawns in the bigger "thing" that is the supplement industry.